Salvation is not certain in The Church.

[Reuben_J]

To assert that God altered and incarnated in different matter(Son, Holy Spirit) conflict with attributes of God whichs are eternal, indivisible, timeless, placeless than Trinity concluded with a way that like Pagans believe. This kind of faith is not acceptable by God, is ist?

If God wants it to be that way, why not? It is not for us to decide on what God wants and does not want to do. If God wants it that way, then it is acceptable.

It is important that we do not pre-empt what God is. God is God, not what we want Him to be.

To brush off something that we personally do not believe is understandable but every major belief does have a background and a source. Your only way to rebut this would be to rebut how this belief came about. More often than not, that does not work and it eventually your words against mine. But by all means. We will see which is more believeable and reasonable.

 

[NoliteTimere]

To assert that God altered and incarnated in different matter(Son, Holy Spirit) conflict with attributes of God whichs are eternal, indivisible, timeless, placeless than Trinity concluded with a way that like Pagans believe. This kind of faith is not acceptable by God, is ist?

Like many have suggested before, I would encourage a more in depth study of what the Catholic Church teaches regarding the Trinity.

A much more glaring conflict (to me, anyway) is the Muslim claim that an eternal and perfect Allah can explicitly contradict Himself (abrogation).

 

[CatholicServant]

Explain to me how 1+1+1=1

Hi Friend,

Try 1 x 1 x 1 = and see what you get if you need to view the trinity through a mathematical equation. The Trinity is not three separate Gods that you would add together.

 

[mhmtas]

Like many have suggested before, I would encourage a more in depth study of what the Catholic Church teaches regarding the Trinity.

A much more glaring conflict (to me, anyway) is the Muslim claim that an eternal and perfect Allah can explicitly contradict Himself (abrogation).

İf you can prove Trinity with proofs especially from all scriptures than you are very right and Muslims are wrong.

 

[mhmtas]

From Jn 1:

I read verses from Gospels and OT. İn the OT it is not obvious about Trinity but there can be some argues from analogy. As we are used to in Quran reveals and speechs from God are directly from God at the first attempt. But most verses from Gospel come from second even from third person. Apostles of prophet Jesus narrate life of Jesus. There are some verses whichs are directly from God but anyway these are considered as if Jesus say and enounce for himself. There is no sign showing that Jesus is a God. Jesus performs miracles as other prophets do but there is no anything else except this. When Jesus say to do/will be something excelent he say he will ask from Father( and ı think that Father is God/Allah who all prophet call upon) show that he has no divine forces.