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Valtiel
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Sorry I don’t have time to sort through all the hundreds of already existant slavation through works topics, but I need a good source prooving it and explaining it…
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Catholic_Dude
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Good old James Chapter 2:
20 Do you want to be shown, you shallow man, that faith apart from works is barren? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by works, 23 and the scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness”; and he was called the friend of God. 24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 And in the same way was not also Rahab the harlot justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way? 26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.
Its pretty clear in this simple passage.
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scylla
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It is salvation by God’s Grace through faith working in love
It is not of our own doing but all by God’s Grace, our faith, and our works
God Bless
Scylla
It is not of our own doing but all by God’s Grace, our faith, and our works
God Bless
Scylla
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scylla
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Ephesians illustrates this nicely, commonly people advocating Faith Alone will only quote Ephesians 2:8 and 9 but always read it in context and it makes a lot more sense.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: 2:8
Not of works, lest any man should boast. 2:9
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 2:10
It is a faith which we do good works in love but only by God’s Grace. We need faith in working through love.
Corinthians 13:1-13 shows the necessity of love read the whole thing, it is powerful stuff.
If I speak in the tongues of men and angels,
but have not love,
I am a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal.
And if I have prophecy and know all mysteries and all knowledge,
and if I have all faith so as to remove mountains,
but have not love, I am nothing…
usccb.org/nab/bible/1corinthians/1corinthians13.htm
God Bless
Scylla
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: 2:8
Not of works, lest any man should boast. 2:9
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 2:10
It is a faith which we do good works in love but only by God’s Grace. We need faith in working through love.
Corinthians 13:1-13 shows the necessity of love read the whole thing, it is powerful stuff.
If I speak in the tongues of men and angels,
but have not love,
I am a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal.
And if I have prophecy and know all mysteries and all knowledge,
and if I have all faith so as to remove mountains,
but have not love, I am nothing…
usccb.org/nab/bible/1corinthians/1corinthians13.htm
God Bless
Scylla
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Taliesin52
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Revelations 20 also mentions works:
11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to his works as recorded in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to his works. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to his works as recorded in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to his works. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
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Didi
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Also:
Philipians 2:12-13:
“…work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.”
Romans 2: 6-8:
“For he will render to every man according to his works; to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury.”
Matthew 5:20:
“For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.”
Philipians 2:12-13:
“…work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.”
Romans 2: 6-8:
“For he will render to every man according to his works; to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury.”
Matthew 5:20:
“For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.”
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