Same God Different Worship?

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I have a cousin who is about to become a Baptist so i asked him why and had a nice small discussion about it. It was friendly, nonchalant, and very interesting. I did eventually ask him what his thoughts on Catholicism were and all that Jazz. His response is what my question is.

He said that to him it doesn’t matter what Church you belong to as long as you’re praying to the same God, it’s just that we all have different ways of worshiping him. And i had no idea how to respond to it. I know that it runs along the line of Relativism and Indifferentism.

So, how can i argue this point?

God Bless 😃
 
I don’t know how to bring this up in conversation, but, the first thought that runs across my mind is that, if you really loved and worshiped God, wouldn’t you want to worship him in a manner pleasing to Him? To want to do things His way?

Then it’s a simple matter to prove the foundation of the Church by Jesus.
You are Peter, and upon this rock…
 
Bballer32 said:
I have a cousin who is about to become a Baptist so i asked him why and had a nice small discussion about it. It was friendly, nonchalant, and very interesting. I did eventually ask him what his thoughts on Catholicism were and all that Jazz. His response is what my question is.

He said that to him it doesn’t matter what Church you belong to as long as you’re praying to the same God, it’s just that we all have different ways of worshiping him. And i had no idea how to respond to it. I know that it runs along the line of Relativism and Indifferentism.

So, how can i argue this point?

God Bless 😃
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If you read the Old Testament, it’s clear that worship has to be in a particular way.
 
Bballer32 said:
I have a cousin who is about to become a Baptist so i asked him why and had a nice small discussion about it. It was friendly, nonchalant, and very interesting. I did eventually ask him what his thoughts on Catholicism were and all that Jazz. His response is what my question is.

He said that to him it doesn’t matter what Church you belong to as long as you’re praying to the same God, it’s just that we all have different ways of worshiping him. And i had no idea how to respond to it. I know that it runs along the line of Relativism and Indifferentism.

So, how can i argue this point?

God Bless 😃
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I does not matter! Worship is worship. The key is to worship babtist, Catholic, Methodist, Luthern,.Morman, Latter day saints, etc, wherevery you can find Christ and like the message. Good work and God Bless.
 
Bballer32 said:
I have a cousin who is about to become a Baptist so i asked him why and had a nice small discussion about it. It was friendly, nonchalant, and very interesting. I did eventually ask him what his thoughts on Catholicism were and all that Jazz. His response is what my question is.

He said that to him it doesn’t matter what Church you belong to as long as you’re praying to the same God, it’s just that we all have different ways of worshiping him. And i had no idea how to respond to it. I know that it runs along the line of Relativism and Indifferentism.

So, how can i argue this point?

God Bless 😃
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John 4:24 (NIV)

God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.

So, are there many truths? :hmmm:

MJ
 
Bballer32 said:
I have a cousin who is about to become a Baptist so i asked him why and had a nice small discussion about it. It was friendly, nonchalant, and very interesting. I did eventually ask him what his thoughts on Catholicism were and all that Jazz. His response is what my question is.

He said that to him it doesn’t matter what Church you belong to as long as you’re praying to the same God, it’s just that we all have different ways of worshiping him. And i had no idea how to respond to it. I know that it runs along the line of Relativism and Indifferentism.

So, how can i argue this point?

God Bless 😃
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That’s missing a large part of what worship is. Is like saying it doesn’t matter if you treat an ear infection with antibiotics or ear candles because both are trying to treat the ear infection. The problem is that the thought behind ear candles is wrong, and so it doesn’t work. Which isn’t too say that there’s no value to Protestant worship, only that if the goal is to follow God we ought to do it in the most right way possible, and never does God say “if you love me, do whatever feels right.”

God is truth. Ignore truth, and ignore God.
 
universityprof said:
I does not matter! Worship is worship. The key is to worship babtist, Catholic, Methodist, Luthern,.Morman, Latter day saints, etc, wherevery you can find Christ and like the message. Good work and God Bless.
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Umm, no. Whether you like the message is irrelevant. Where the message is true is what matters.
 
I think that your friend and yourself should visit my website where I have an excellent page entitled “The Protestant Bible proves the Catholic Church” There you will find the answer that you are looking for. Praise the Lord!
www.catholicprayergroup.net
 
Bballer32 said:
I have a cousin who is about to become a Baptist so i asked him why and had a nice small discussion about it. It was friendly, nonchalant, and very interesting. I did eventually ask him what his thoughts on Catholicism were and all that Jazz. His response is what my question is.

He said that to him it doesn’t matter what Church you belong to as long as you’re praying to the same God, it’s just that we all have different ways of worshiping him. And i had no idea how to respond to it. I know that it runs along the line of Relativism and Indifferentism.

So, how can i argue this point?

God Bless 😃
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I would say but we are all called to worshp hin perfectly and you have to do that in the CC.

Ny MIL says it doesn’t matter we are all trying to get to the same place in the end. Which is knd of like the same thing.

Jesus told us to stay away from strange doctines. Sorry to say but their teaching’s are not the same as Jesus taught.

For instance they say if you drink you are going to hell. Well at least the ones I ever met. (but you should see them put away the alcohol when they feel they can get away with it:p)

Well see Jesus never said that. He said do not over drink.

They ignore our Sacraments. We are taught to ask for forgiveness for our sins etc.

They believe in the faith alone theory that saves you.

The list goes on and on.

To make a long story short I can take the bible, read it, and pray to Jesus also. And start my own Church according to what I think.

And I can teach many false doctrines about the one True God. So according to them the fullness of the truth does not matter. Its as long as we believe in the true God.

Again thats not what Christ taught.

He said the Church was ONE HOLY CATHOLIC and APOSTOLIC. Tell em thats in the bible also.😃
 
MartinJordan said:
John 4:24 (NIV)

God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.

So, are there many truths? :hmmm:

MJ
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I like the Verse. There is only one Truth and he is a Math Major so he should know that only one truth can exist.

Thank you 👍
 
I have the same situation with an ex-Catholic co-worker. Something along the lines of “it’s all the same except differing processes”.

I’ll be interested to see how this thread flows.
 
OP, ask him this: Muslims also worship the same God. Is their worship just a different worship?
 
reb108 said:
Why does religion always have to be an argument?
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You are understanding the term incorrectly as used by the OP.

A good argument exists for the purpose to hash out truth.

In today’s world of itchy people, the term has been twisted into a negative.

It is not a negative, perhaps actions by participants can be negative, but the act of having an argument isn’t negative.

It can be quite cordial.
 
Bballer32 said:
I have a cousin who is about to become a Baptist so i asked him why and had a nice small discussion about it. It was friendly, nonchalant, and very interesting. I did eventually ask him what his thoughts on Catholicism were and all that Jazz. His response is what my question is.

He said that to him it doesn’t matter what Church you belong to as long as you’re praying to the same God, it’s just that we all have different ways of worshiping him. And i had no idea how to respond to it. I know that it runs along the line of Relativism and Indifferentism.

So, how can i argue this point?

God Bless 😃
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Really? Where do any of the Apostles, authors of the Bible, and ECF’s teach:

It does not matter what church you belong to as you’re praying to the same God.

Do Mormons have the same God?
 
Bballer32 said:
I have a cousin who is about to become a Baptist so i asked him why and had a nice small discussion about it. It was friendly, nonchalant, and very interesting. I did eventually ask him what his thoughts on Catholicism were and all that Jazz. His response is what my question is.

He said that to him it doesn’t matter what Church you belong to as long as you’re praying to the same God, it’s just that we all have different ways of worshiping him. And i had no idea how to respond to it. I know that it runs along the line of Relativism and Indifferentism.

So, how can i argue this point?

God Bless 😃
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“A house divided cannot stand”-Jesus
 
reb108 said:
Why does religion always have to be an argument?
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I guess because as Jesus said but not it these exact words. You either follow him and his word or you follow yourself.

If you look at history and then to date what cause division in Religion is a teaching either someone does nto understand or does not want to accept.
 
reb108 said:
Why does religion always have to be an argument?
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The term argument, as stated earlier, is not supposed to be a negative term, as seen in today’s world, but rather it is a positive term used to proclaim the Truth (whatever the arguer thinks is the truth) or to try and defend one’s “truth” from another’s.
 
Bballer32 said:
I have a cousin who is about to become a Baptist so i asked him why and had a nice small discussion about it. It was friendly, nonchalant, and very interesting. I did eventually ask him what his thoughts on Catholicism were and all that Jazz. His response is what my question is.

He said that to him it doesn’t matter what Church you belong to as long as you’re praying to the same God, it’s just that we all have different ways of worshiping him. And i had no idea how to respond to it. I know that it runs along the line of Relativism and Indifferentism.

So, how can i argue this point?

God Bless 😃
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I’ve heard this argued both ways. Catholics worship the same God as all other Christians/Monotheists, because they all believe in the God of Abraham, vs. Catholics do not worship the same god as all other Christians/Monotheists.
The reasons I’ve heard for us not having the same God, for Jews, Jehovah’s Witnesses, some Protestants, and Muslims:
  1. They reject the Divinity of Christ God.
  2. They reject the notion of the Trinity.
  3. They reject the Personhood of the Holy Ghost.
For most Protestants:
  1. They reject the presence of Christ in the Eucharist, meaning they deny the Eucharistic God.
  2. They have different views of the union of Christ’s Human and Divine Natures than those of Catholics.
  3. They believe in a god of the dead, because they hold that the saints cannot hear our supplications for intercession, whereas we believe in a God of the Living, who has granted eternal life to His saints.
  4. “Their god” can’t give the power to perform most of the sacraments of the Church, whereas “Our God” is a sacramental God.
However, I’ve never heard that Eastern Orthodox Christians don’t worship the same God as Catholics.

I don’t honestly have an opinion on this. I was just stating what I’ve heard.
 
TheIrishman said:
“A house divided cannot stand”-Jesus
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johndaniel said:
I’ve heard this argued both ways. Catholics worship the same God as all other Christians/Monotheists, because they all believe in the God of Abraham, vs. Catholics do not worship the same god as all other Christians/Monotheists.
The reasons I’ve heard for us not having the same God, for Jews, Jehovah’s Witnesses, some Protestants, and Muslims:
  1. They reject the Divinity of Christ God.
  2. They reject the notion of the Trinity.
  3. They reject the Personhood of the Holy Ghost.
For most Protestants:
  1. They reject the presence of Christ in the Eucharist, meaning they deny the Eucharistic God.
  2. They have different views of the union of Christ’s Human and Divine Natures than those of Catholics.
  3. They believe in a god of the dead, because they hold that the saints cannot hear our supplications for intercession, whereas we believe in a God of the Living, who has granted eternal life to His saints.
  4. “Their god” can’t give the power to perform most of the sacraments of the Church, whereas “Our God” is a sacramental God.
However, I’ve never heard that Eastern Orthodox Christians don’t worship the same God as Catholics.

I don’t honestly have an opinion on this. I was just stating what I’ve heard.
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Agree with him on the part the truth that he does have. Regardless of denomination, We do worship the same God. As the Vatican II Decree on Ecumenism rightly points outs, the many different Christian communities professing Christ in different ways as if Christ were divided “scandalizes the world, and damages that most holy cause, the preaching of the Gospel to every creature.”
During a class that I took, the assistant professor kept talking about individual truth. My response was the Indian parable of the blind men and the elephant. Each blind man described the elephant differently, each having only part of the truth. None of them had the whole truth which was the elephant. Truth does not change.
 
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