Same-sex ‘marriage’ in the Church of Norway

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Those who follow Christian news may have heard that the synod in the Church of Norway have voted on in favour of allowing same-sex ‘marriage’ in the Church.

I am, as a priest in the Church of Norway, part of a group who seek alternative episcopal oversight (as in the Church of England), but I’m not especially optimistic. I was interviewed by three newspapers (because I am a vicar or parish priest who, alongside 200 others, have signed a petition, declaring that marriage is between one man and one woman), and I have said that if nothing happens before the new liturgy has been passed (it doesn’t yet exist), which will probably be in January 2017, I will have to resign my office and no longer remain as a member of the Church. I will probably, in that scenario, stay until the summer of 2017, for the sake of the youth in my confirmation class.

If it happens, I will have to go elsewhere. Where that is, I don’t know. I just know that some small Lutheran free church will not be an option. I’m not part of the Church of Norway specifically because it’s Lutheran but because it’s the historical Church of the Norwegian realm.

Prayers will be appreciated. Monday was a sad day indeed.

I think Wolfhart Pannenberg says it best, and I’ll give him the last word:

Those who urge the church to change the norm of its teaching on this matter must know that they are promoting schism. If a church were to let itself be pushed to the point where it ceased to treat homosexual activity as a departure from the biblical norm, and recognized homosexual unions as a personal partnership of love equivalent to marriage, such a church would stand no longer on biblical ground but against the unequivocal witness of Scripture. A church that took this step would cease to be the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
 
KjetilK said:
Those who follow Christian news may have heard that the synod in the Church of Norway have voted on in favour of allowing same-sex ‘marriage’ in the Church.

I am, as a priest in the Church of Norway, part of a group who seek alternative episcopal oversight (as in the Church of England), but I’m not especially optimistic. I was interviewed by three newspapers (because I am a vicar or parish priest who, alongside 200 others, have signed a petition, declaring that marriage is between one man and one woman), and I have said that if nothing happens before the new liturgy has been passed (it doesn’t yet exist), which will probably be in January 2017, I will have to resign my office and no longer remain as a member of the Church. I will probably, in that scenario, stay until the summer of 2017, for the sake of the youth in my confirmation class.

If it happens, I will have to go elsewhere. Where that is, I don’t know. I just know that some small Lutheran free church will not be an option. I’m not part of the Church of Norway specifically because it’s Lutheran but because it’s the historical Church of the Norwegian realm.

Prayers will be appreciated. Monday was a sad day indeed.

I think Wolfhart Pannenberg says it best, and I’ll give him the last word:

Those who urge the church to change the norm of its teaching on this matter must know that they are promoting schism. If a church were to let itself be pushed to the point where it ceased to treat homosexual activity as a departure from the biblical norm, and recognized homosexual unions as a personal partnership of love equivalent to marriage, such a church would stand no longer on biblical ground but against the unequivocal witness of Scripture. A church that took this step would cease to be the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
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KjetilK said:
Those who follow Christian news may have heard that the synod in the Church of Norway have voted on in favour of allowing same-sex ‘marriage’ in the Church.

I am, as a priest in the Church of Norway, part of a group who seek alternative episcopal oversight (as in the Church of England), but I’m not especially optimistic. I was interviewed by three newspapers (because I am a vicar or parish priest who, alongside 200 others, have signed a petition, declaring that marriage is between one man and one woman), and I have said that if nothing happens before the new liturgy has been passed (it doesn’t yet exist), which will probably be in January 2017, I will have to resign my office and no longer remain as a member of the Church. I will probably, in that scenario, stay until the summer of 2017, for the sake of the youth in my confirmation class.

If it happens, I will have to go elsewhere. Where that is, I don’t know. I just know that some small Lutheran free church will not be an option. I’m not part of the Church of Norway specifically because it’s Lutheran but because it’s the historical Church of the Norwegian realm.

Prayers will be appreciated. Monday was a sad day indeed.

I think Wolfhart Pannenberg says it best, and I’ll give him the last word:

Those who urge the church to change the norm of its teaching on this matter must know that they are promoting schism. If a church were to let itself be pushed to the point where it ceased to treat homosexual activity as a departure from the biblical norm, and recognized homosexual unions as a personal partnership of love equivalent to marriage, such a church would stand no longer on biblical ground but against the unequivocal witness of Scripture. A church that took this step would cease to be the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
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Man plays with the laws of God at His own demise.

God Bless your journey forward and I offer a prayer for your future and for man to find the wisdom in Gods Laws.

Regards Tony
 
KjetilK said:
Those who follow Christian news may have heard that the synod in the Church of Norway have voted on in favour of allowing same-sex ‘marriage’ in the Church.

I am, as a priest in the Church of Norway, part of a group who seek alternative episcopal oversight (as in the Church of England), but I’m not especially optimistic. I was interviewed by three newspapers (because I am a vicar or parish priest who, alongside 200 others, have signed a petition, declaring that marriage is between one man and one woman), and I have said that if nothing happens before the new liturgy has been passed (it doesn’t yet exist), which will probably be in January 2017, I will have to resign my office and no longer remain as a member of the Church. I will probably, in that scenario, stay until the summer of 2017, for the sake of the youth in my confirmation class.

If it happens, I will have to go elsewhere. Where that is, I don’t know. I just know that some small Lutheran free church will not be an option. I’m not part of the Church of Norway specifically because it’s Lutheran but because it’s the historical Church of the Norwegian realm.

Prayers will be appreciated. Monday was a sad day indeed.

I think Wolfhart Pannenberg says it best, and I’ll give him the last word:

Those who urge the church to change the norm of its teaching on this matter must know that they are promoting schism. If a church were to let itself be pushed to the point where it ceased to treat homosexual activity as a departure from the biblical norm, and recognized homosexual unions as a personal partnership of love equivalent to marriage, such a church would stand no longer on biblical ground but against the unequivocal witness of Scripture. A church that took this step would cease to be the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
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I hope this doesn’t come off as opportunistic, but perhaps this is an opportunity to seriously look at the Catholic Church. Pretty much all of the Protestant churches have folded on this issue, only the Catholic Church and Orthodox Church remain steadfast on the issue of marriage being between one man and one woman, and only the Catholic Church maintains that it is indissoluble and for life.

Regardless, I pray that the Church of Norway does not permit this evil, and that you are able to find safe harbor if it does.
 
KjetilK said:
Those who follow Christian news may have heard that the synod in the Church of Norway have voted on in favour of allowing same-sex ‘marriage’ in the Church.

I am, as a priest in the Church of Norway, part of a group who seek alternative episcopal oversight (as in the Church of England), but I’m not especially optimistic. I was interviewed by three newspapers (because I am a vicar or parish priest who, alongside 200 others, have signed a petition, declaring that marriage is between one man and one woman), and I have said that if nothing happens before the new liturgy has been passed (it doesn’t yet exist), which will probably be in January 2017, I will have to resign my office and no longer remain as a member of the Church. I will probably, in that scenario, stay until the summer of 2017, for the sake of the youth in my confirmation class.

If it happens, I will have to go elsewhere. Where that is, I don’t know. I just know that some small Lutheran free church will not be an option. I’m not part of the Church of Norway specifically because it’s Lutheran but because it’s the historical Church of the Norwegian realm.

Prayers will be appreciated. Monday was a sad day indeed.

I think Wolfhart Pannenberg says it best, and I’ll give him the last word:

Those who urge the church to change the norm of its teaching on this matter must know that they are promoting schism. If a church were to let itself be pushed to the point where it ceased to treat homosexual activity as a departure from the biblical norm, and recognized homosexual unions as a personal partnership of love equivalent to marriage, such a church would stand no longer on biblical ground but against the unequivocal witness of Scripture. A church that took this step would cease to be the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
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I’m sorry to hear that.

Is there a lot of division in the Church of Norway over approving same-sex marriage?
 
Maybe you could try the Lutheran Norwegian Mission , but sad day indeed 😦
 
ProdglArchitect said:
I hope this doesn’t come off as opportunistic, but perhaps this is an opportunity to seriously look at the Catholic Church. Pretty much all of the Protestant churches have folded on this issue, only the Catholic Church and Orthodox Church remain steadfast on the issue of marriage being between one man and one woman, and only the Catholic Church maintains that it is indissoluble and for life.

Regardless, I pray that the Church of Norway does not permit this evil, and that you are able to find safe harbor if it does.
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Not to dissuade you from evangelizing non-Catholics on a Catholic site… but this bolded statement is patently false. In fact most protestant denominations, particularly those outside the mainline, have been standing with the RCC on this issue. In fact the largest Protestant denomination in the US, the Southern Baptist Convention, has been pretty clear they will not support something they see as non-scriptural. And the second largest denomination, the United Methodist Church currently affirms marriage between one man and one woman as well.

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/21/where-christian-churches-stand-on-gay-marriage/

Also here’s another good resource to who supports same sex marriage, blessings, clergy, and membership. Most of it is well cited and it’s reasonably up to date.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominational_positions_on_homosexuality#Summary_of_denominational_positions_in_North_America_and_Europe
 
Continuing Anglican churches also oppose same sex marriage.
 
I recommend that you join the Catholic Church. The Church of Norway broke away from the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church still follows the Bible when it comes to marriage compared to the Church of Norway. I suppose you could also join the Russian Orthodox Church if Russia invades Norway.
 
Starwarsfan2 said:
Maybe you could try the Lutheran Norwegian Mission , but sad day indeed 😦
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I’m not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean any of the Missions organisations. If so, that will never happen. They are very low Church and have a non-episcopal ecclesiology, and many of them are practically reformed/Zwinglian when it comes to the sacraments.
 
KjetilK said:
I’m not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean any of the Missions organisations. If so, that will never happen. They are very low Church and have a non-episcopal ecclesiology, and many of them are practically reformed/Zwinglian when it comes to the sacraments.
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What other choices would there be except perhaps a Continuing Anglican community?
 
KjetilK said:
I’m not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean any of the Missions organisations. If so, that will never happen. They are very low Church and have a non-episcopal ecclesiology, and many of them are practically reformed/Zwinglian when it comes to the sacraments.
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It’s actually a breakaway ( well sorta ) from the Church of Norway, and is Confesional
 
KjetilK said:
Those who follow Christian news may have heard that the synod in the Church of Norway have voted on in favour of allowing same-sex ‘marriage’ in the Church.

I am, as a priest in the Church of Norway, part of a group who seek alternative episcopal oversight (as in the Church of England), but I’m not especially optimistic. I was interviewed by three newspapers (because I am a vicar or parish priest who, alongside 200 others, have signed a petition, declaring that marriage is between one man and one woman), and I have said that if nothing happens before the new liturgy has been passed (it doesn’t yet exist), which will probably be in January 2017, I will have to resign my office and no longer remain as a member of the Church. I will probably, in that scenario, stay until the summer of 2017, for the sake of the youth in my confirmation class.

If it happens, I will have to go elsewhere. Where that is, I don’t know. I just know that some small Lutheran free church will not be an option. I’m not part of the Church of Norway specifically because it’s Lutheran but because it’s the historical Church of the Norwegian realm.

Prayers will be appreciated. Monday was a sad day indeed.

I think Wolfhart Pannenberg says it best, and I’ll give him the last word:

Those who urge the church to change the norm of its teaching on this matter must know that they are promoting schism. If a church were to let itself be pushed to the point where it ceased to treat homosexual activity as a departure from the biblical norm, and recognized homosexual unions as a personal partnership of love equivalent to marriage, such a church would stand no longer on biblical ground but against the unequivocal witness of Scripture. A church that took this step would cease to be the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
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Most of my family in the US is Lutheran. Before coming to the US they were Church of Norway. So it is very sad to hear the Church of Norway is going this route.

When I was a Protestant this issue, specifically the acceptance of homosexual activity, spurred me to start researching Christian history. I wanted to know more about the various churches and their own historical teachings. I found that the early divisions were over specific issues. But as time went on those who left a church discovered even more issues to divide over. Or said another way they found more points of doctrine to question or practices to abandon.

I understand your wanting to be in the church of the realm. This is a sensible position and consistent with the imperative for Christian unity. What helped me to consider Catholicism when a Protestant was that if I went back far enough my family would have been Catholic. It wasn’t a strange religion but a religion that had been abandoned by my ancestors. When I surveyed the landscape I found the western churches that had any reasonable claim to carrying on the Apostolic Faith had gone far more seriously off track then whatever was claimed about the Catholic Church.

My prayers are with you.
 
KjetilK said:
Those who follow Christian news may have heard that the synod in the Church of Norway have voted on in favour of allowing same-sex ‘marriage’ in the Church.

I am, as a priest in the Church of Norway, part of a group who seek alternative episcopal oversight (as in the Church of England), but I’m not especially optimistic. I was interviewed by three newspapers (because I am a vicar or parish priest who, alongside 200 others, have signed a petition, declaring that marriage is between one man and one woman), and I have said that if nothing happens before the new liturgy has been passed (it doesn’t yet exist), which will probably be in January 2017, I will have to resign my office and no longer remain as a member of the Church. I will probably, in that scenario, stay until the summer of 2017, for the sake of the youth in my confirmation class.

If it happens, I will have to go elsewhere. Where that is, I don’t know. I just know that some small Lutheran free church will not be an option. I’m not part of the Church of Norway specifically because it’s Lutheran but because it’s the historical Church of the Norwegian realm.

Prayers will be appreciated. Monday was a sad day indeed.
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Prayers for you…Father K…

Just out of curiosity…what do you mean by this in your post…and I have said that if nothing happens before the new liturgy has been passed (it doesn’t yet exist), which will probably be in January 2017,
 
KjetilK said:
Those who follow Christian news may have heard that the synod in the Church of Norway have voted on in favour of allowing same-sex ‘marriage’ in the Church.

I am, as a priest in the Church of Norway, part of a group who seek alternative episcopal oversight (as in the Church of England), but I’m not especially optimistic. I was interviewed by three newspapers (because I am a vicar or parish priest who, alongside 200 others, have signed a petition, declaring that marriage is between one man and one woman), and I have said that if nothing happens before the new liturgy has been passed (it doesn’t yet exist), which will probably be in January 2017, I will have to resign my office and no longer remain as a member of the Church. I will probably, in that scenario, stay until the summer of 2017, for the sake of the youth in my confirmation class.

If it happens, I will have to go elsewhere. Where that is, I don’t know. I just know that some small Lutheran free church will not be an option. I’m not part of the Church of Norway specifically because it’s Lutheran but because it’s the historical Church of the Norwegian realm.

Prayers will be appreciated. Monday was a sad day indeed.

I think Wolfhart Pannenberg says it best, and I’ll give him the last word:

Those who urge the church to change the norm of its teaching on this matter must know that they are promoting schism. If a church were to let itself be pushed to the point where it ceased to treat homosexual activity as a departure from the biblical norm, and recognized homosexual unions as a personal partnership of love equivalent to marriage, such a church would stand no longer on biblical ground but against the unequivocal witness of Scripture. A church that took this step would cease to be the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
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There was a quote from a movie I saw the other day, titled “God is not dead 2”. It was “I would rather stand with God and be judged by the world than to stand with the world and be judged by God” stay strong my friend and God Bless.
 
TonyBS said:
Man plays with the laws of God at His own demise.

God Bless your journey forward and I offer a prayer for your future and for man to find the wisdom in Gods Laws.

Regards Tony
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Hello Tony,
I'm not aware of any of God's laws mentioning same sex marriage.
 
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