Same-sex marriage rowdies single out Mormons

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Strategic move on the part of the gay activists. Mormons aren’t the most popular group, so they are trying to associate their beliefs with anti-mormons.

Of course, the mormons aren’t to “blame” for this. The mormons are a sufficiently small minority in CA that they couldn’t have changed the results on their own.

Guess they feel that anti-mormonism is a better bait to garner support than attacking say the Catholic Church or the African American community who both opposed it as well and are large enough sectors to actually change the result.
 
Strategic move on the part of the gay activists. Mormons aren’t the most popular group, so they are trying to associate their beliefs with anti-mormons.

Of course, the mormons aren’t to “blame” for this. The mormons are a sufficiently small minority in CA that they couldn’t have changed the results on their own.

Guess they feel that anti-mormonism is a better bait to garner support than attacking say the Catholic Church or the African American community who both opposed it as well and are large enough sectors to actually change the result.
My thoughts exactly.

Everyone has to have a “boogey-man”…and they picked theirs. They might want to be a little careful though… The Mormons I have known over the years were not people I would place in the “pacifist” category if angered and cornered…:eek:
 
Guess they feel that anti-mormonism is a better bait to garner support than attacking say the Catholic Church or the African American community who both opposed it as well and are large enough sectors to actually change the result.
Good point. Can you imagine if they had directed their protests against the African American community? They’d have the whole country against them.
 
One reason they are targeting the Mormons is that the “Yes on 8” campaign raised roughly $36 million, and it is estimated that Mormons donated about $20 million. So even though they are a small minority in CA, they put up most of the money for the campaign.
 
Proposition 8 was placed on the ballot largely due to the efforts of the Knights of Columbus, of which I am a member. I feel kind of cheated that we are not getting our fair share of the hatred from the opponents of Prop 8. 😃

But we are very grateful for the support of the LDS!
 
Proposition 8 was placed on the ballot largely due to the efforts of the Knights of Columbus, of which I am a member. I feel kind of cheated that we are not getting our fair share of the hatred from the opponents of Prop 8. 😃

But we are very grateful for the support of the LDS!
I’m curious, not to derail this thread, but I just started going to a Catholic Church in a nearby town, I do not think there is a Knights of Columbus group there, is that something I could promote once I finish RCIA and become a Catholic member?

I’m really interested in the KoC, there is another Catholic Church about the same distance in the opposite direction I could attend if not.
 
Bishop Weigand speaks out.

'"Catholics stand in solidarity with our Mormon brothers and sisters in support of traditional marriage–the union of one man and one woman–that has been the major building block of Western Civilization for millennia.

"The ProtectMarriage coalition, which led the successful campaign to pass Proposition 8, was an historic alliance of people from every faith and ethnicity. LDS were included–but so were Catholics and Jews, Evangelicals and Orthodox, African-Americans and Latinos, Asians and Anglos.
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                    "Bigoted attacks on Mormons for the part they played in our coalition are shameful and ignore the reality that Mormon voters were only a small part of the groundswell that supported Proposition 8.


           "As the former bishop of the Diocese of Salt Lake City, I can attest to the fact that followers of the Mormon faith are a good and generous people with a long history of commitment to family and giving to community causes.


           "I personally decry the bigotry recently exhibited towards the members of the Church of the Latter Day Saints--coming from the opponents of Proposition 8, who ironically, have called those of us supporting traditional marriage intolerant.


           "I call upon the supporters of same-sex marriage to live by their own words--and to refrain from discrimination against religion and to exercise tolerance for those who differ from them. I call upon them to accept the will of the people of California in the passage of Proposition 8."'
 
Bishop Weigand speaks out.

'"Catholics stand in solidarity with our Mormon brothers and sisters in support of traditional marriage–the union of one man and one woman–that has been the major building block of Western Civilization for millennia.

"The ProtectMarriage coalition, which led the successful campaign to pass Proposition 8, was an historic alliance of people from every faith and ethnicity. LDS were included–but so were Catholics and Jews, Evangelicals and Orthodox, African-Americans and Latinos, Asians and Anglos.
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                    "Bigoted attacks on Mormons for the part they played in our coalition are shameful and ignore the reality that Mormon voters were only a small part of the groundswell that supported Proposition 8.


           "As the former bishop of the Diocese of Salt Lake City, I can attest to the fact that followers of the Mormon faith are a good and generous people with a long history of commitment to family and giving to community causes.


           "I personally decry the bigotry recently exhibited towards the members of the Church of the Latter Day Saints--coming from the opponents of Proposition 8, who ironically, have called those of us supporting traditional marriage intolerant.


           "I call upon the supporters of same-sex marriage to live by their own words--and to refrain from discrimination against religion and to exercise tolerance for those who differ from them. I call upon them to accept the will of the people of California in the passage of Proposition 8."'
And this has been my point on this forum. Catholics and mormons should work together to promote a common interest. Catholics should not be attacking mormons on this forum. Yes, catholics can disagree with mormonism respectively, but not attack the lds and their faith.

I am glad that mormons and catholics worked together for this proposition. We should all be proud of this cooperation. And I also know that the catholic church and the lds church in Utah do have a productive cooperation to promote traditional family values. I say thumbs up! 👍
 
And this has been my point on this forum. Catholics and mormons should work together to promote a common interest. Catholics should not be attacking mormons on this forum. Yes, catholics can disagree with mormonism respectively, but not attack the lds and their faith.
How many times do we have to tell you that it is not an attack on the Mormon faith when we expose their true doctrines?
I am glad that mormons and catholics worked together for this proposition. We should all be proud of this cooperation. And I also know that the catholic church and the lds church in Utah do have a productive cooperation to promote traditional family values. I say thumbs up! 👍
I’m also glad we worked together on this. Now if more Catholics would work to make abortion illegal we could stop the killing of innocent babies as well.
 
Racism affected all parts of the country in the 1950s, but Alabama was singled out.

These men and women are fighting for their rights. They have the right to protest, and I commend them.

Maybe we should put a ballot up in California to ban Catholic marriages. Two Catholics can no longer be married in the sate of California. That’d be fair.
 
They have their rights under the Domestic Partnership Law 297.5 here in Ca.

Marriage is a sacred institution and what these people fail to understand is that it a sacred covenant not just rights. I don’t have the right to be married just because I feel like it. That’s nonsense, and I am sad that they don’t respect the vote of people. I don’t buy the whole racial issue that they compare themselves to, it is different. Mostly all minorities helped Yes on 8.
Even though minorities pushed Obama over the edge for a big win, most of those minorities also have conservative views when it comes to SS.

I may not agree with Mormom theology, but I do agree with many of the PP that have said why just target Mormons if there is a onslaught of groups that helped this get passed, it doesn’t make any sense to me.
 
Maybe we should put a ballot up in California to ban Catholic marriages. Two Catholics can no longer be married in the sate of California. That’d be fair.
Actually Prop 8 is totally non-discriminatory. 2 Catholics aren’t allowed to engage in same-sex marriage, just like 2 blacks, mormons, homosexuals or any other group.

That’s fair, and that’s the way the law was written.
 
Racism affected all parts of the country in the 1950s, but Alabama was singled out.

These men and women are fighting for their rights. They have the right to protest, and I commend them.

Maybe we should put a ballot up in California to ban Catholic marriages. Two Catholics can no longer be married in the sate of California. That’d be fair.
If the state of California didn’t recognize my marriage, frankly, I wouldn’t give a hoot.
Why should I?
 
Good point. Can you imagine if they had directed their protests against the African American community? They’d have the whole country against them.
I’m not sure. Partialy because Blacks and Latinos’s, the bulk of the California Catholic Church, are part of the grand liberal or progessive allience. They are generally on the gay community’s team. Mormon’s dispite the Harry Reid’s of their church are part of the Christian right. Right now although Blacks were the most loyal bloc to defend marriage, however the people we vote for are the most likely to pass gay marriage in the legislatures.

Another factor as a Black pastor in counter protest outside of Los Angeles’s main Mormom Temple, sitting near Beverly Hills said, the protestors fear going to South Central and protesting the black megachurches in the hood.
 
Racism affected all parts of the country in the 1950s, but Alabama was singled out.

These men and women are fighting for their rights. They have the right to protest, and I commend them.

Maybe we should put a ballot up in California to ban Catholic marriages. Two Catholics can no longer be married in the sate of California. That’d be fair.
Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion. Here’s what most voting Americans have supported not including the issues that were recently voted on in this last election.

Forty-one states currently have statutory Defense of Marriage Acts. Three of those states have statutory language that pre-dates DOMA (enacted before 1996) defining marriage as between a man and a woman. Twenty-seven states have defined marriage in their constitutions. Arizona is the only state that has ever defeated a constitutional amendment defining marriage between a man and a woman (2006).

**States with Statutes Defining Marriage Between One Man and One Woman

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland*
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
New Hampshire
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming

In January 2006, a state judge found the Maryland statute unconstitutional but it remains in effect pending appeal.*

**States with Constitutional Language Defining Marriage

Alabama
Alaska
Arkansas
Colorado
Georgia
Hawaii*
Idaho
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Wisconsin

*Hawaii’s constitution was amended in 1998 to read “The Legislature shall have the power to reserve marriage to opposite-sex couples.” The Hawaii legislature subsequently passed a law prohibiting marriage for same-sex couples.
**
 
Racism affected all parts of the country in the 1950s, but Alabama was singled out.

These men and women are fighting for their rights. They have the right to protest, and I commend them.

Maybe we should put a ballot up in California to ban Catholic marriages. Two Catholics can no longer be married in the sate of California. That’d be fair.
Yes, I think is it clearly understood that those who are pushing gay marriage in this country only care about themselves. IF this were not the case there would be concern for the varied relationships that exist between two people where they would NEVER get married. Heterosexual and homosexual couples who do not choose marriage but are together for decades, with children. Two relatives or good friends living together, who care for each other, but lack the same legal rights.

This isn’t about marriage. It is about of group of people who want to disorder the world as much as they are disordered themselves.

The will of the people in California and elsewhere is opposed to gay marriage.
 
Another factor as a Black pastor in counter protest outside of Los Angeles’s main Mormom Temple, sitting near Beverly Hills said, the protestors fear going to South Central and protesting the black megachurches in the hood.
lol. The Mormons do build their temples in more affluent areas. It is ironic that this fact has made them an easy target.
 
And this has been my point on this forum. Catholics and mormons should work together to promote a common interest. Catholics should not be attacking mormons on this forum. Yes, catholics can disagree with mormonism respectively, but not attack the lds and their faith.
whyme, you speak out both sides of your mouth. You support Mormons in their attack of the Catholic faith and Church, and then tell Catholics that we are attacking Mormonism when we speak out ourselves.

I am not sorry to tell you that Mormonism is a false religion based on the belief in a false prophet.
I am glad that mormons and catholics worked together for this proposition. We should all be proud of this cooperation. And I also know that the catholic church and the lds church in Utah do have a productive cooperation to promote traditional family values. I say thumbs up! 👍
Both churches in Utah are cooperative in matters of shared moral values and humanitarian efforts. But they are not the same church. There are real, theological, differences. Beginning with the Mormon church and its members belief that the Church that Christ established failed, quite miserably.

This is a lie, and I see no need to pretend that this lie is anything but the product of evil.
 
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