This was posted on another thread and felt that it should be viewed. It gives me pause to see those that argue for Same Sex Marriage, saying “we just want what everyone else has”…just our rights they say…and let’s just see how children of Same Sex Marriages do…
Canada is a glowing example of the Same Sex Marriage mindset.
nationalreview.com/articles/301641/canadian-crackdown-michael-coren?pg=1
Shall we agree to agree that Canada is a warning of what the Same Sex Marriage debate is really about?
I think it’s wrong to force private citizens in a private enterprise to be forced to say they agree with something they don’t. I would be against any legislation that forced private actors to quiet their views.
However, you have to remember that the USA enjoys free speech other countries do not. For instance, in some European nations, it is actually illegal to deny the holocaust happened or to voice racist views, an din some cases, anti homosexual views. Now, I think this is very wrong, because it amounts to the thought police. I strongly believe that people should be allowed to say whatever they want, no matter how disgusting I find their speech. Now of course, that doesn’t mean that speech should not have consequences - of course what you say may result in people criticizing you back, or not doing business with you, or avoiding you. But you certainly shouldn’t be jailed or forced to change your belief system no matter how repugnant it is, so long as you aren’t inciting violence or panic. I think what Canada is doing is really wrong.
Really what you should be criticizing is the lack of free speech in Canada and gay rights advocates pushing for such legislation, not gay rights advocates here in America who have nothing to do with this…excpet of course for any in America who do promote this sort of thing.
After all, do you blame Eli Weisel or the Jewish anti defamation league or people involved in the civil rights movement because people aren’t legally allowed to speak out against them in some places? Or do you criticize the laws in those countires that suppress free speech, while veing thankful you live in a country in the USA that does give us the freedom to think and say waht we want (for the most part), no matter how unpopular or controversial a view it may be. What’s happening in Canada *couldn’t *happen here, the same way that the civil rights movement did not result in racist speech being illegalized here even though it was in some other countries that also had civil rights movements. We have a constitution that prevents these sorts of free speech violations, for which I am grateful.
Do you think we should take back rights won by the black community because some nations now suppress racist viewpoints? If not, then you really can’t justify wanting to stop the gay rights movement based on some country suppressing homophobic viewpoints.
In some countries, Christians advocate the torture and murder of homosexuals, such as certain places in the Middle East and Africa. Some Christian anti-gay-rights-groups based in the United States have worked with leaders abroad to try and rachet up violence against homosexuals and even impose the death penalty for them, and to spread propaganda encouraging violence against homosexuals.
Does that mean that *your *end goal, coptic christian, is the torture and murder of all homosexuals? Are you responsible for the actions of all people in every country that share some ideology with you, and should we judge you by their actions?
After all, isn’t torturing and murdering people far worse than preventing their speech in schools? If we should all just agree that the gay rights movement needs to be snuffed out world wide because in some countries it has been shown to possibly lead to the suppression of free speech, than surely, by your logic, the Christian campaign against homosexual rights/marriage should also be ended because in some instances this movement has lead to torture and murder.
heck, for that matter, where I’m from, you have far more Christian Churches who are pro gay marriage, and vocally pro gay marriage, than are against it. So hey, does that mean the end goal of Christianity is the legalization of gay marriage? Or does it mean that sometimes people who have (or at least claim to have) a shared ideology with you don’t actually speak for you and represent your views?
