Same-Sex Marriage

[kaymart]

goofyjim:

There is a penultimate dichotomy if ever I heard one.:whacky:

Exactly,:whacky: Just like his posts:whacky:

 

[goofyjim]

kaymart:

Exactly,:whacky: Just like his posts:whacky:

I hope you’re hanging in there over in Jersey. It hasn’t been easy there in the last few years. Sorry, getting off topic (maybe not).

 

[kaymart]

I hope you’re hanging in there over in Jersey. It hasn’t been easy there in the last few years. Sorry, getting off topic (maybe not).

Not really off topic, considering our Ex-Governer, how can we get anymore off topic then our friend here is?

 

[Consecrated]

Libero:

But civil unions do not define a couple as a family, they define a couple as two people who have devoted themselves to each other.

The traditional concept of family as those related to each other by blood, marriage, or adoption has been ever so slowly broadened to include “two (or more) people who have devoted themselves to each other.” So your claim seems to contradict what proponants of SSM are trying to say.

Libero:

There is further problem with the idea of impossing Christ’s law and ideals upon a society, as not everyone in that society is Christian. What about other religious people - Muslims, Jews etc. What about agnostics and atheists? We cannot force our beliefs upon them, and can Christians themselves find a single viewpoint on the matter - definetely not - people such as the pope and some RC bishops and other bishops would most certainly oppose civil unions, however, people such as Bishop Gumbleton, Bishop Spong, Bishop Robinson and Archbishop Williams would probably not voice opposition to civil unions.

How can we oppose civil unions as a society, when as a Christian church we cannot even find one similar view? It is impossible to impose a belief, defending it with the claim that it is founded in Christian ideology, which is not even defined.

We are not talking about forcing beliefs down anyone’s throat. We are talking about making it a point NOT to encourage immoral behavior with civil laws that actively encourage and protect it.

 

[Ortho]

Consecrated:

The traditional concept of family as those related to each other by blood, marriage, or adoption has been ever so slowly broadened to include “two (or more) people who have devoted themselves to each other.” So your claim seems to contradict what proponants of SSM are trying to say.

We are not talking about forcing beliefs down anyone’s throat. We are talking about making it a point NOT to encourage immoral behavior with civil laws that actively encourage and protect it.

That sure sounds like forcing religion down the gagging and constricted throats of people who have no taste for it.

 

[Julian_Peters]

Thank you to all those who have participated in this discussion. This thread is now closed.