Santa Claus is blasphemous

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BFM - I’m sure we all keep Christ in Christmas here! But thanks for reminding us:p

Are we sure that eating Turkey is OK, how about Christmas Cake and Christmas Pudding - surely that has a pagan overtone? I’m going to have a “bouch de noel” - (a yule log cake) as a centre-piece: that’s probably got to do with Saxon mythology or some such.
 
The best gift I ever gave my sister and her children was a statue of the “kneeling Santa” and a copy of the book “A Special Place for Santa”. I highly recommend it for those who love and hate Santa.
 
Santa is a synonym for Saint, which all derived from “Sancus” as well as “Sin” which is Pagan God of “Fides” and “Fides” is also a Goddess, from which the common Christian term “Faith” derives, even Salvation is derived from “Salus” God of Salvations.Christmas Day is Pagan[Sol Invictus] Everything is Blasphemous

Cola Cola Invented most of the Attributes of Santa Claus, so blame them instead, and for making our kids Hyper
 
Anyone who takes this so seriously has lost their sense of humor.

I have never undertood ultra conservative I-Am-So-More-Catholic-Than-You types anyway.

I was raised with the myth of Santa, always knew it was a symbol for the spirit of giving, always knew that December 25th was chosen by the Church as a way to incorporate the traditions of the local peoples (just as our CCC teaches) and have never understood the freak out that happens over Santa.

And there are lots of things someone could tell my children that are not lies - what would upset me is if these angry Look-How-Much-More-Catholic-I-Am-Than-You types were to take it upon themselves to tell my children ANYTHING without my express permission. That is not what the Holy Mother Church teaches Catholics to do.

I belong to a 12 step group. We have, in that group, a Rule: it is known as Rule 62.

The rule is:

Don’t take yourselves so damn seriously.

Looks like we could use a little of that around here, eh?

Merry Christmas everyone. And hey…what’s that? In the sky? Could it be?

up on the house top reindeer paws…out jumps dear old Santa Claus…

YIPPPEEEEEE!!!😉
 
LSK said:
Anyone who takes this so seriously has lost their sense of humor.

I have never undertood ultra conservative I-Am-So-More-Catholic-Than-You types anyway.

I was raised with the myth of Santa, always knew it was a symbol for the spirit of giving, always knew that December 25th was chosen by the Church as a way to incorporate the traditions of the local peoples (just as our CCC teaches) and have never understood the freak out that happens over Santa.

And there are lots of things someone could tell my children that are not lies - what would upset me is if these angry Look-How-Much-More-Catholic-I-Am-Than-You types were to take it upon themselves to tell my children ANYTHING without my express permission. That is not what the Holy Mother Church teaches Catholics to do.

I belong to a 12 step group. We have, in that group, a Rule: it is known as Rule 62.

The rule is:

Don’t take yourselves so damn seriously.

Looks like we could use a little of that around here, eh?

Merry Christmas everyone. And hey…what’s that? In the sky? Could it be?

up on the house top reindeer paws…out jumps dear old Santa Claus…

YIPPPEEEEEE!!!😉
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May I give you a standing ovation?!

Best. Post. Ever.

Thank you!
 
kbwall said:
If people are drivin away from the church because I essentially said that lying is bad, then that is their own problem, and just one more thing wrong with society.

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First off, that sounds like a personal problem.

Second, you don’t really have any right telling to go seek help when you post that you were driven to the occult because your family never lied to about Santa. There’s nothing all that special about him in the first place anyway.
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It sounds like you may have a personal problem.

You go on and on about Santa being a lie. Have you never lied in your life?

Pride is also a sin. The tone of your origianl post suggests you may need to deal with it.
 
aquinasonline.com/Topics/Humor/sclaus.html

THE FIVE WAYS OF PROVING SANTA CLAUS*

Whether Santa Clause Exists

We proceed thus to the third article:

Objections

It seems that Santa Claus does not exist; because Christmas gifts are able to be given by good elves. Therefore, Santa Claus does not exist.

Further, if Santa Claus did exist, there would be no narrow chimneys. But there are narrow chimneys, and sometimes there are no chimneys at all. Therefore, Santa Claus does not exist.

On the contrary, Kay Starr says: “I saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus underneath the mistletoe last night.”

I answer that, The existence of Santa Claus Can be proved in five ways.

The first and most manifest way is that taken from Christmas trees. It is certain and evident to our senses, that in the world some things are Christmas trees. Now no pine tree becomes a Christmas tree unless it is trimmed. Now to be trimmed means to receive ornaments from another. But this cannot go on to infinity in the trimming of Christmas trees. One must come to some first untrimmed trimmer; and this everyone understands to be Santa Claus.

The second way is from the nature of Christmas gifts. We see that in the world that Christmas gifts are given and received. Whoever, then, gives Christmas gifts either receives them from another or makes them in his workshop. If, however, no one makes Christmas gifts in his workshop, they are not given nor received. Therefore it is necessary to posit some first giver of Christmas gifts, who everyone calls Santa Claus.

The third way is taken from plastic images resembling Santa Claus. At all stores we see things of plastic that represent Santa Claus. These things are of such a quality that they are representations according to Santa himself or according to other images of him. But, it is not possible to proceed to infinity in images. Therefore, it is necessary to posit something which is resembling Santa Claus and hence Santa Claus exists.

The fourth way is taken from the grades which are found in Christmas spirit. Indeed, in this world, among men there are some of more and some of less Christmas spirit. But “more” and “less” is said of diverse things according as they resemble in their diverse ways something which is the “maximum.” Therefore there must be something which has the most Christmas spirit, and this we call Santa Claus.

The fifth way is taken from the behavior of children. When Christmas day approaches, we see from their being good always or frequently that children, who lack understanding, are moved because of an end. But children would not be good because of the Nativity of Christ unless there were someone who strengthened them so that they were good. And this someone is known by all to be Santa Claus.

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Good elves, since they receive Christmas gifts from another, should be named the highest helpers of Santa.
It is not impossible that Santa Claus should use the door like everyone else.

NOTE
  • Also known in various places under the name of Saint Nicholas, Father Christmas, etc.
 
Yikes.

Can’t we all just agree that some of us think the Santa thing is stupid and some of us think it’s brilliant without actually attacking each OTHER.
 
Verbum_Caro said:
Jeremiah,

Did that ever happen in your family in practice? I.e. was anyone rewarded extra for being good or less rewarded for being naughty at Christmas?

Thanks!
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I don’t know actually… I’ve never asked Santa if he followed through with the naughty and nice thing. My memory is that Christmas morning was always pretty awesome and nobody got coal or was told in a note from Santa that he would have gotten _______ if he hadn’t done _______ .

Though… I have heard talk among Santa’s helpers that because some child was so exceptional this past year (say, being some amazing little kindergartner and helper with her grandma) that they felt extra keen on making sure that that child got what’s on her list as opposed to using Christmas as a time to update her sweater and socks needs 🙂
 
It occurred to me this might be a class issue!

I wonder if us poorer folk grew up without Santa because our parents simply couldn’t afford to give us ‘anything we asked for’? Hmm… someone should conduct a poll!!!

PS: I might add that Santa NEVER visited me. ): Some years we barely got gifts (by barely I mean we would get one gift but we always knew it wasn’t really from our parents, usually some kind soul would give the parents something to give to us)… and I remember picking up our gifts at the Salvation Army one year. Haha. Man I hate Christmas…
 
Fred Gailey: Your Honor, every one of these letters is addressed to Santa Claus. The Post Office has delivered them. Therefore the Post Office Department, a branch of the Federal Government, recognizes this man Kris Kringle to be the one and only Santa Claus.
Judge Henry X. Harper: Uh, since the United States Government declares this man to be Santa Claus, this court will not dispute it. Case dismissed.

😉
 
nickybr38 said:
It occurred to me this might be a class issue!

I wonder if us poorer folk grew up without Santa because our parents simply couldn’t afford to give us ‘anything we asked for’? Hmm… someone should conduct a poll!!!
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My parents were pretty poor. We had money for food and clothes, but not much else. 🤷 And we had Santa.

On the other hand my cousins were rich, in our eyes, and their parents didn’t have Santa. My cousin’s kids have Santa. So I am thinking they felt cheated.
 
nickybr38 said:
It occurred to me this might be a class issue!

I wonder if us poorer folk grew up without Santa because our parents simply couldn’t afford to give us ‘anything we asked for’? Hmm… someone should conduct a poll!!!
PS: I might add that Santa NEVER visited me. ): Some years we barely got gifts (by barely I mean we would get one gift but we always knew it wasn’t really from our parents, usually some kind soul would give the parents something to give to us)… and I remember picking up our gifts at the Salvation Army one year. Haha. Man I hate Christmas…
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Why don’t you conduct the poll?

:harp:
 
maryjk said:
My parents were pretty poor. We had money for food and clothes, but not much else. 🤷 And we had Santa.

On the other hand my cousins were rich, in our eyes, and their parents didn’t have Santa. My cousin’s kids have Santa. So I am thinking they felt cheated.
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Without a poll we can’t tell for sure if it’s a class issue or not… 😉
 
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