Santa Claus is blasphemous

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When I was 6 my older brother woke me up and showed me our parents getting gifts out of the trunk of the car and said there’s your Santa Claus. I was a little disappointed, but then I realized our parents loved us.
I was one of seven kids. Somewhere along the way, one of us realised that the wrapping paper on the Santa presents was identical to the wrapping paper on the Mum and Dad presents. And it happened a couple of Christmas’s in a row.

We didn’t want to spoil it for the folks, though, so we kept quiet! 😃
 
How shallow must be the lives of those who create outrageous arguments against a popular myth such as Santa, for the mere sake of causing a debate. Fie on you! and may you develope an allergy to the few presents you receive, if in fact you get any at all.
Where is the coal for your stockings when one need it?😦
 
I was one of seven kids. Somewhere along the way, one of us realised that the wrapping paper on the Santa presents was identical to the wrapping paper on the Mum and Dad presents. And it happened a couple of Christmas’s in a row.

We didn’t want to spoil it for the folks, though, so we kept quiet! 😃
We really need a “like” button!!

This is what “Santa Claus” is all about- LOVE!! ❤️

And, FWIW, Santa is real, I know his neigbors in North Pole!
Alaska, that is!! 😉
 
I was one of seven kids. Somewhere along the way, one of us realised that the wrapping paper on the Santa presents was identical to the wrapping paper on the Mum and Dad presents. And it happened a couple of Christmas’s in a row.

We didn’t want to spoil it for the folks, though, so we kept quiet! 😃
:rotfl:
 
People sure are heavy on insisting that either having Santa or not having Santa will damage children and rob them of a beautiful life experience. I think grownups are putting a lot more importance on it than it really deserves. If it’s supposed to be lighthearted good fun, the mace-waving and accusations kind of put a damper on that. Having Santa at Christmas will not by itself alienate your child from religion, or make him somehow better than a non-Santa kid. Not having Santa at Christmas will not by itself scar your child for life. Don’t know if the last few posters have noted, but Santa is not the only myth–just the strongest and most distracting this time of year. We don’t have Santa in my house, not because he’s blasphemous or will warp their sense of God, but a) it’s a lie (or myth) that doesn’t, in my eyes, justify its own use. I can get the same moral out of the story of Christ alone, and the gravity of the issue doesn’t warrant an elaborate hoax. B) Despite the efforts of well-meaning parents, Santa does distract from what’s going on at Christmas–the birth of Christ–by blinding little kids with visions of toys.

Respectfully; in all the effort you take to write about excluding Santa Claus from childhood makes it seem like you believe Santa is the sole biggest reason Christmas gets lost to secularism and commercialism. Sheesh; I think there are children out there in their simplicity who can grasp the religious concept of the Birth of Christ in simplistic form far better than the ego accumulated by some adults.

That being said, I don’t believe in defacing Santas or attacking mall Santas or ruining your tradition of using the Santa myth. If you believe the myth has a real application and you embrace the ‘spirit of Santa’ at Christmas, my feelings aren’t hurt. But please know that my children, even though they are not Santa-adherents, read plenty of stories and have live, wonderful imaginations; they are not ignorant or denied Santa, they just know he is pretend and they’re okay with that–they pretend a lot of things; they are more than exposed to the goodness of giving and charity, even without Santa showing them how.

As far as Santa being a lie, well, in my understanding of the word, much of the Santa tradition revolves around telling an elaborate lie to children. Sorry if that hurts feelings, but Santa is a fictionalized character with fictional attributes and fictional cohorts. If Santa is the word or personality you attach to the concept of giving, and as such is a ‘living’ personality, I can perceive a difference. As a literal, breathing person who actually lives at the North Pole and who actually hand-delivers gifts (that I buy) and is kind of creepy, watching you day and night and keeping track of all you do, and presenting him as literal truth is a lie in my understanding. Trying to convince someone of something that is not true is a lie. Anthropomorphism of a concept into a personage is a myth, not a lie as such. But in this case, they overlap in application.

Lying to kids is part of being a parent. But as the parent, you get to pick which lies you get to embrace, and which ones to skip.
 
When I was 6 my older brother woke me up and showed me our parents getting gifts out of the trunk of the car and said there’s your Santa Claus. I was a little disappointed, but then I realized our parents loved us.
My parents would wrap all our gifts except the ones from “Santa”. Kind of fun that way. 🙂
 
My Dad still does Santa. My oldest sister has been enlisted now, too. It’s still fun and her kids are excited about it. I don’t know if they know, but we go along with the flow. Christmas at family’s homes, we do as the Romans do, but at home, we don’t. I have good memories of having Santa as a kid. One year, when I was very small, he actually showed up, a surprise to my parents as well. He looked so much like my Uncle Billy (RIP)! I don’t have a bitterness toward my parents doing Santa. I don’t feel like I’ve been the victim of a vicious lie. Nothing personal against Santa, he’s just not our thing. The fairy tale aspect of it is great, and I’m glad people can both enjoy the allure of Santa and keep their focus on Christ, but in our situation it’s not something I’m comfortable with, especially with a kid who is so literal-minded and one-track-minded that the idea of Santa does literally wipe anything else out of his brain. Once something is learned as emphatically as Santa, trying to get Jesus past that is very difficult. Maybe it’s different for neurotypical kids, they can ‘multitask’ Christmas.
 
Honestly, are you not all grown adults? I stand at a staggering eighteen years and yet I can understand what it is about such snide and pompous remarks that disinterests honest persons from wanting to convert. Especially during a beautiful liturgical season, is there really room for the negativity? I promise, there is enough spite and anger in this world without these rude and inconsiderate comments.

Our Savior spent much of His time on this Earth with prostitutes and tax collectors and those who it seems would be degraded and condemned by this forum. Does this have anything to do with Santa Claus? Directly, no, but could a moderator or someone please advocate for a sense of decency and respectful address? This forum is for helping, not for breaking spirits and humiliating the souls of persons honestly seeking information.

I understand that this is not a post in response to the question posted by the original poster , and honestly I have no stake in this particular debate aside from curiosity as I do not have young children; I do know that there are many more important things in life than whether or not Santa Claus is a part of my family. Yes, I grew up believing in the lad for a very few short years. However, I promise the fable of a magical man dropping presents off under our family Christmas tree never squandered my belief in the perfect atonement of my sins upon a wooden cross.

Please, if for the very least, consider how your comments come off when read across an internet forum by honest individuals earnestly searching for honest answers. My goodness, Jesus Christ made it quite clear that love is the Greatest Commandment, how often are these answers done out of love and not pride?

With all respect and love and humility, I am just an honest sinner begging to be comforted in the arms of Jesus Christ… Please, I am not even asking questions that reflect anything as important on this forum as others are and my heart breaks with the lack of charity.

I pray you all have a wonderful Christmas. I have a wonderful friend whose grandfather just passed away on the 19th and another friend who has a friend whose father is terminally ill and in danger of passing soon; please pray for these souls and for all of us. I love you all and may you all have a wonderful evening (or morning or day or night wherever you are).

God bless!
Very well said. God bless you.
 
First off, it’s nothing but a blatant lie. I don’t care how much people try to butter it up by calling it childhood innocence. What is that supposed to mean anyway? **It is nothing more than a lie, pure and simple. ** You’re telling them something that you know good and well is not true, sounds like a lie. Just to go into the further illogical-ness of it, many parents are upset when the truth is exposed. Many tiptoe around the subject when kids are around, like it’s something sacred. It’s nothing but a lie people! Parents shouldn’t be mad somebody told their kid the truth. Oh, and just like real lies, it requires more and more lies to keep it going. Best example: Telling kids that mall Santas are Santa’s helpers when kids get smart enough to realize Santa can’t be at every mall every Christmas.

**Second, Santa takes away the main focus of the holiday, which is Jesus. **
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Really well said, and I am glad somebody said it. I agree with almost the entirety of the OP, but the above snipped portion is particularly apt.

To everybody getting upset at the original poster and saying they must be angry, I urge you to truly read the post. Nothing angry about it, except maybe some fully justified indignation at the Santa Claus tradition. Though I think calling Santa Claus “blasphemous” is a bit strong, it is a provocative title for an important issue. I think it’s probably more correct to call Santa Claus “dangerous” or even “idolatrous,” so really “blasphemous” isn’t even that much of a stretch.

The Santa Claus tradition is absurd. Why lie to kids? Why get that lie all mixed up with the birth of Christ and run the risk of getting the lie of Santa Claus all mixed up with the Divine Truth of Christ’s nativity?

As a Catholic who has struggled with doubt since an early age, I agree wholeheartedly with OP’s astute observation that parents fostering the Santa Claus lie in their children can ultimately shake the foundation of a child’s faith. Similar things can be said about the equally absurd traditions of the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny. What is a child supposed to think when they reach the age of awareness and their parents tell them, “Remember all those miraculous things we’ve been telling you about all this time, like flying reindeer and bunnies that hide eggs? They were all lies. But that whole part about Jesus being resurrected from the dead, that was totally true, we swear.”

It’s kind of a horrible thing to do to a kid when you think about it. And yes, I must also agree with OP that it wasn’t non-Christians who took the Christ out of Christmas, but Christians themselves who did so. The holiday is now about presents, and that bit about the birth of our Lord is just an afterthought.

So count me in the column of Catholics who oppose all the nonsense attached to Christmas. It’s the second most important holiday of the year, and should be about Christ, not magical elves. That’s a no brainer!
 
Haha, another Santa Hatin’ thread I see… :rolleyes:

OP, hope things get better for you. Have a merry xmas… be merry! 😃
 
Honestly, are you not all grown adults? I stand at a staggering eighteen years and yet I can understand what it is about such snide and pompous remarks that disinterests honest persons from wanting to convert. Especially during a beautiful liturgical season, is there really room for the negativity? I promise, there is enough spite and anger in this world without these rude and inconsiderate comments.

Our Savior spent much of His time on this Earth with prostitutes and tax collectors and those who it seems would be degraded and condemned by this forum. Does this have anything to do with Santa Claus? Directly, no, but could a moderator or someone please advocate for a sense of decency and respectful address? This forum is for helping, not for breaking spirits and humiliating the souls of persons honestly seeking information.

I understand that this is not a post in response to the question posted by the original poster , and honestly I have no stake in this particular debate aside from curiosity as I do not have young children; I do know that there are many more important things in life than whether or not Santa Claus is a part of my family. Yes, I grew up believing in the lad for a very few short years. However, I promise the fable of a magical man dropping presents off under our family Christmas tree never squandered my belief in the perfect atonement of my sins upon a wooden cross.

Please, if for the very least, consider how your comments come off when read across an internet forum by honest individuals earnestly searching for honest answers. My goodness, Jesus Christ made it quite clear that love is the Greatest Commandment, how often are these answers done out of love and not pride?

With all respect and love and humility, I am just an honest sinner begging to be comforted in the arms of Jesus Christ… Please, I am not even asking questions that reflect anything as important on this forum as others are and my heart breaks with the lack of charity.

I pray you all have a wonderful Christmas. I have a wonderful friend whose grandfather just passed away on the 19th and another friend who has a friend whose father is terminally ill and in danger of passing soon; please pray for these souls and for all of us. I love you all and may you all have a wonderful evening (or morning or day or night wherever you are).

God bless!
👍
 
Hey kbwall,

What no Santa Claus? I’ll tell you what, would you like that 15 pound piece of West Virginia coal my Episcopal priest brother gave me for Christmas?
 
Haha, another Santa Hatin’ thread I see… :rolleyes:

OP, hope things get better for you. Have a merry xmas… be merry! 😃
They do proliferate this time of year. I admit I was surprised to see this phenomena on a Catholic site, as it is more common among certain fundamentalist sects. I notice none of the Santa haters have yet to back their position up with anything from the Church. I thought Catholics were to be forebearing with each other in areas in which the Church is silent.
 
They do proliferate this time of year. I admit I was surprised to see this phenomena on a Catholic site, as it is more common among certain fundamentalist sects. I notice none of the Santa haters have yet to back their position up with anything from the Church. I thought Catholics were to be forebearing with each other in areas in which the Church is silent.
Actually, the Catechism speaks directly to this issue:
CC 2486:
Since it violates the virtue of truthfulness, a lie does real violence to another. It affects his ability to know, which is a condition of every judgment and decision. It contains the seed of discord and all consequent evils. Lying is destructive of society; it undermines trust among men and tears apart the fabric of social relationships.
 
Actually, the Catechism speaks directly to this issue:
Santa Clause is not mentioned there, only lying. If Santa Claus entails lying, it would apply. However, that involves assuming the point you are trying to prove, known as begging the question, or circular logic.
 
Well I was just tucking my kids into bed all excited about Santa and my six year old says, “I do know the real meaning of Christmas you know. It’s about Jesus. It’s about his birthday.” Then he said, “Why do some kids not know about Jesus?” I said, because their daddies and mommies haven’t told them about Jesus.

Anyway, Santa was just put in his place by a six year old - of COURSE he’s till going to be excited by the presents, but he knows the real truth.
 
Santa comes tonight!! :extrahappy: Now just have to get the teens to bed!!😃
 
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