Satan is real

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Satan is real, and so are his coherts. Hell and Purgatory are also very real, and it will be a rude awakening for many who refuse to believe in them up to their dying day.
From: *They Bore the woulds of Christ *by Michael Freze, S.F.O.
 
ronh4 said:
Satan is real, and so are his coherts. Hell and Purgatory are also very real, and it will be a rude awakening for many who refuse to believe in them up to their dying day.
From: *They Bore the woulds of Christ *by Michael Freze, S.F.O.
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Don’t say that!
You’ll mess up his plans. :D:D
 
“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”
 
ronh4 said:
Satan is real, and so are his coherts. Hell and Purgatory are also very real, and it will be a rude awakening for many who refuse to believe in them up to their dying day.
From: *They Bore the woulds of Christ *by Michael Freze, S.F.O.
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I recently read that purgatory is a place that everyone goes to…when we pass we all ‘see’ our lives (like a movie), then if we believe in God, we go to Heaven to meet him there 🙂 , for those that do not believe in God, they stay in purgatory until they become spiritually aware, there is no ‘time’ there, so this could takes years in our ‘time’. Once they accept God, they go into Heaven, if they cannot, it said, they remain in purgatory. And obviously those ‘bad’ ones go down to meet Satan.

I am a very recent Catholic revert and after years of doing a lot of ‘New Age’ things, I am looking into the Church again and researching a lot, so this info on purgatory was interesting to me. So my poor Sister, that is an Athiest (well might as well be :() I was happy to hear will remain in purgatory until she accepts God…at least she won’t go to hell, right:confused:

I am unsure of how hell works and Satan, but I do believe he is trying to pull me back to my ‘old life’ in the occult and other new age practices, and this does make me become unsure if I am going in the right direction…back to God that is. I am aware of this though and this can only help…along with prayer of course:thumbsup:
 
kamaan said:
“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”
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I really like that quote ‘kamaan’. 🙂

I often wonder myself, (see my previous post in this thread), but this makes sense, he is a devil after all. :o
 
Angels_Eyes said:
I recently read that purgatory is a place that everyone goes to…when we pass we all ‘see’ our lives (like a movie), then if we believe in God, we go to Heaven to meet him there 🙂 , for those that do not believe in God, they stay in purgatory until they become spiritually aware, there is no ‘time’ there, so this could takes years in our ‘time’. Once they accept God, they go into Heaven, if they cannot, it said, they remain in purgatory. And obviously those ‘bad’ ones go down to meet Satan.

I am a very recent Catholic revert and after years of doing a lot of ‘New Age’ things, I am looking into the Church again and researching a lot, so this info on purgatory was interesting to me. So my poor Sister, that is an Athiest (well might as well be :() I was happy to hear will remain in purgatory until she accepts God…at least she won’t go to hell, right:confused:
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Yeah…no…😊

Sorry, but that’s not how purgatory works. If you commit a mortal sin (a grave matter, with full knowledge that what you did was a sin and with full consent) and die with that sin still attached to your soul you go to hell. Refusing to acknowledge the existence of God out of arrogance is a grave matter entailing a mortal sin. However if one is ignorant of God then they may get a by. However in your sister’s case, we cannot know what is going on in her heart, so God may still be merciful to her. We cannot know who is going to heaven for sure and who is going to hell for sure.
I am unsure of how hell works and Satan, but I do believe he is trying to pull me back to my ‘old life’ in the occult and other new age practices, and this does make me become unsure if I am going in the right direction…back to God that is. I am aware of this though and this can only help…along with prayer of course:thumbsup:
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Good on you man. This site should help. Use the search bar to find anything you need.
catholic.com/magazines/thisrock.asp
 
ronh4 said:
Satan is real, and so are his coherts. Hell and Purgatory are also very real, and it will be a rude awakening for many who refuse to believe in them up to their dying day.
From: *They Bore the woulds of Christ *by Michael Freze, S.F.O.
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Yep…
 
It was seeing the reality of Satan that lead me to the belief in God!
 
ronh4 said:
Satan is real, and so are his coherts. Hell and Purgatory are also very real, and it will be a rude awakening for many who refuse to believe in them up to their dying day.
From: *They Bore the woulds of Christ *by Michael Freze, S.F.O.
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Alas, awaken now…while in this life, no need to wait until your dying day - the road to heaven is heaven…the road to hell is hell - Choose well.
 
Some interesting points in this thread.

I would just like to share some of this info with you all. I received this from a Parish Priest. He said this is what is usually handed out to people doing RCIA, but thought due to my questions it might help.

This relates to purgatory.

" The bible uses many vivid images and metaphors to describe heaven and hell. While we should be wary about attaching to them too literal an interpretation."

It goes on to speak of purgatory in more depth… “Purgatory adds a liberating dimension to our faith when correctly understood. Remorse usually takes time to work through before we can really be at peace with ourselves and to forgive ourselves. If our hearts are so disposed, this process happens quickly. However, if we have built up a lifetime of unforgiving habits, this change of heart will not come so easily.”

It then goes on to say…“Judgement is not like a trial in a court of Laws, rather, it is seeing our true selves through the eyes of God’s love. By refusing to face our true selves we keep ourselves separated from Christ…hell.”

"Purgatory is our final path to liberation. The ‘pain’ of purgatory is actually an experience of intense love; cleansing us and making us whole."
Now I know this doesn’t cover ‘sins’ of life as such, but it made sense of purgatory for me. It didn’t scare me so much as the older version…the one I heard when I grew up.:rolleyes:

Thoughts…🤷
 
Angels_Eyes said:
That is deep ‘Robert Sock’…I would love to hear your story :o
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It all has to do with state-of-mind. I began having visions of sin and rotting in hell, along with severe anxiety and depression. I was numb spirituality, and I felt that I was at the gates of hell. All was dark and gloomy. Repentance was the answer for me.

Today, I still have anxiety and depression, but I have strong hope for salvation. When I’m able to meditate, I see light!
 
ronh4 said:
Satan is real, and so are his coherts. Hell and Purgatory are also very real, and it will be a rude awakening for many who refuse to believe in them up to their dying day.
From: *They Bore the woulds of Christ *by Michael Freze, S.F.O.
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My word, you like to condemn people who don’t believe what you do! And doing that is pretty satanic!

Yet here am I, a nonbeliever and yet, I’m not that abrasive! :rolleyes:
 
Robert_Sock said:
It was seeing the reality of Satan that lead me to the belief in God!
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Sep 12, '10 7:33 pm
kamaan
Re: Satan is real
“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”

True… if Satan convinces people he does not exist, he can convince people God does not exist. If Satan showed himself, then it would be indirect evidence of God existing, for Satan cannot exist without God existing. There are very few authentic cases of demonic or Devil possession in people that have totally fallen from grace and completely rejected God, as well as opened themselves to darkness in some way. Perhaps God allows possession to occur (in people that reject Him and invite evil in some way) to show people Satan is real and he is the greatest enemy that wants everyone dead including our souls.
 
croix_de_fer said:
Sep 12, '10 7:33 pm
kamaan
Re: Satan is real
“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”

True… if Satan convinces people he does not exist, he can convince people God does not exist. If Satan showed himself, then it would be indirect evidence of God existing, for Satan cannot exist without God existing. There are very few authentic cases of demonic or Devil possession in people that have totally fallen from grace and completely rejected God, as well as opened themselves to darkness in some way. Perhaps God allows possession to occur (in people that reject Him and invite evil in some way) to show people Satan is real and he is the greatest enemy that wants everyone dead including our souls.
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That makes a lot of sense. I am struggling slightly :confused: in returning to the Catholic Church after many, many years. The belief in Satan is something I let go of when I was doing occult and New Age practices such as Spiritualism. I am slowly beginning to feel ‘awakened’ somehow that what I was experiencing was actually ‘evil’ at work. Although I felt happy enough at the time and had no bad experiences, now I look back I think that ‘evil’ was slowly allowing my belief in God to vanish.

Obviously God saw my light, and I always had a yearning, something hard to explain (but I’m sure most of you know:)) that there was so much more than what my human mind could ever comprehend.

I really believe that if we do not believe in God, or something higher than ourselves, sadly our ‘ego’ has taken over.

I still have friends that practise Mediumship etc, as I use to as well 😦 and now that I can look back through different eyes, I see that all the ‘messages’ I thought I was giving to people was my own stupid ‘ego’ taking over.

Can’t believed I strayed for so long. This thread has really helped me to confirm what I was feeling deep down.

Thanks everyone,
Hugs and God Bless you all. xx
 
Chanel said:
My word, you like to condemn people who don’t believe what you do! And doing that is pretty satanic!

Yet here am I, a nonbeliever and yet, I’m not that abrasive! :rolleyes:
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That wasn’t a condemnation. The passage was stating that at the end of our lives we will see the truth.

To be in hell is to be separated from God. I was an atheist for many years and although I continued to do good for others whenever possible, I always felt a sense of separation from my true self and my true purpose. Believing in God is not allowing yourself to be dictated to or controlled it’s allowing yourself to be connected to creation and other people.

You’ve come to this forum for a reason - maybe it’s just to mock us silly superstitious. Catholics. Picking a thread like this is an easy target. Maybe you’ve come here for some other reason. If God wants you to hear Him, eventually you will. We all do.

God bless you,
Clare
 
I don’t doubt Satan’s existence at all. He invented calculus, after all!
 
ronh4 said:
Satan is real, and so are his coherts. Hell and Purgatory are also very real, and it will be a rude awakening for many who refuse to believe in them up to their dying day.
From: *They Bore the woulds of Christ *by Michael Freze, S.F.O.
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all the better to hang out hear and learn our faith. welcome.
 
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