Satan is real

[JimR-OCDS]

I acknowledge the existence of Satan and thats all the time I will give him.

I’m focused on Jesus Christ and have no time for Satan or hell.

Jim

 

[Angels_Eyes]

Have you let go yoga as well??? If not, do so immediately. Please read: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=7106710#post7106710

Interesting thread link ‘Pitcharan’, thanks.
I use to do Yoga, but have not for a while, and was actually going to probably start it up again for my fitness. I must admit I did not know there was such a conflict with Yoga and the Catholic church. I have never heard that Yoga is related to Pagan practises, although when I did practise it a lot, I was also calling myself Pagan…

This has given me ‘food for thought’ and I will do some more research on it.

Thanks

 

[Angels_Eyes]

I acknowledge the existence of Satan and thats all the time I will give him.

I’m focused on Jesus Christ and have no time for Satan or hell.

Jim

I agree with you Jim and love your down to earth attitude.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Interesting thread link ‘Pitcharan’, thanks.
I use to do Yoga, but have not for a while, and was actually going to probably start it up again for my fitness. I must admit I did not know there was such a conflict with Yoga and the Catholic church. I have never heard that Yoga is related to Pagan practises, although when I did practise it a lot, I was also calling myself Pagan…

This has given me ‘food for thought’ and I will do some more research on it.

Thanks

There is nothing wrong with Yoga exercise, providing you don’t get into the spiritual aspects.

I’ve been doing Yoga Zone Power Yoga for well over 10 years. there is nothing spiritual about it.

Jim

 

[Pitcharan]

There is nothing wrong with Yoga exercise, providing you don’t get into the spiritual aspects.

You are right; but the fact is, many are tricked into the (un)spiritual aspects

 

[Angels_Eyes]

There is nothing wrong with Yoga exercise, providing you don’t get into the spiritual aspects.

I’ve been doing Yoga Zone Power Yoga for well over 10 years. there is nothing spiritual about it.

Jim

Thanks Jim. This puts my mind at ease. I always found Yoga to be very relaxing, and for me it was always about breathing correctly and toning the body

 

[JimR-OCDS]

You are right; but the fact is, many are tricked into the (un)spiritual aspects

Not all spiritual aspects of Yoga are harmful. If they were, the Pope and other officials in the Church wouldn’t have dialog with Hindu’s and tell us to avoid them at all cost.

The spiritual aspects are not compatible with Christian beliefs, but that doesn’t make them necessarily harmful. I know many Christians who came back to the Church via
Eastern religions. God often has to reach a person where they are and he does so by bringing them through a growth process that may be temporarily outside of the Catholic religion.

I’m not advocating that we should follow Eastern Religions, but as then Cardinal Ratzinger
wrote when he was head of the Congregation of Faith, we should not reject what is true and helpful in those religions, merely because they’re not Catholic.

For myself, my Christian spirituality is the focus of my intention in all things. When I do Yoga, its exercise to keep the temple of the Holy Spirit healthy as possible.

Actually I’ve been doing more workouts with Gillad than Yoga itself. However, Yoga exercise is often found in the final stretch and cool down of many exercise routines.

Jim

 

[Holly3278]

Yep, Satan and his demons most definitely are real. I used to be involved in the Occult and I can tell you for a fact that Satan and his demons are real. For example, one time, I cast a “love spell”. Well, let’s just say that immediately afterward I could feel the presence of the demons. It was a very scary feeling. I immediately became paranoid, depressed, and I was just overall very scared. Thankfully, it did go away. This was before I was baptized I believe.

I also know of a person who used to be in an Occultic cult known as “Wizardry”. No, this has nothing to do with Harry Potter. However, it does have a lot to do with Dungeons and Dragons and is in fact based upon it. Well, part of the practice of this cult was to meditate so that you could access a secret “library” which was full of spiritual knowledge and things like spells and such. It was supposed to be a huge library that was full of books on all sorts of things related to Wizardry. Anyway, a guy I know told me later on that he gave up on the Occult due to an experience he had. Basically he had a vision of Satan offering him an evil book bound in human skin. He refused the offer and it scared him so badly that he totally gave up on Wizardry and I believe the Occult.

So yeah, Satan and his demons are very real. And believe me, I am telling you the truth about these things. Also, a priest of mine who I confessed witchcraft to at one point told me that he believes a lot of my psychological problems are possibly rooted in my background in the Occult. I also believe this. No, I don’t think I’m possessed because if I were, I wouldn’t be able to receive the Eucharist and such. However, I do believe that I almost constantly suffer from demonic harassment and oppression.

Thankfully, I pray the prayer to Saint Michael the Archangel quite frequently and it does help. I also wear a blessed and exorcised Saint Benedict’s Medal which I believe represents the prayers of Saint Benedict for me and I wear a blessed Saint Michael the Archangel Medal as well. I also wear a bunch of other medals. And no, I am not superstitious. I believe that these medals serve to remind me of the prayers of the saints and angels that they represent.

 

[ronh4]

I started this and now reading I think I may have hit a small nerve. It proves my point, Satan is real and he is out to destroy you, weather you believe it or not.

Why take the chance. God is the only answer and your soul is the only thing that you need to save, all else is mere rubbish.

 

[HCC]

Satan is real, and so are his coherts. Hell and Purgatory are also very real, and it will be a rude awakening for many who refuse to believe in them up to their dying day.
From: *They Bore the woulds of Christ *by Michael Freze, S.F.O.

Yes, ronh4 and today on the Feast of St Michael, it is good to remind ourselves how on guard we must be.

Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
by the Divine Power of God -
cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits,
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen.

 

[Pitcharan]

Not all spiritual aspects of Yoga are harmful. If they were, the Pope and other officials in the Church wouldn’t have dialog with Hindu’s and tell us to avoid them at all cost…

Hinduism is NO satanic cult; so it is quite normal for the Pope to dialog with Hindus. There are demonic practices in all societies and there are Satan worshippers in America too.

When I do Yoga, its exercise to keep the temple of the Holy Spirit healthy as possible. Jim

Your efforts to keep physically fit will in NO way benefit the temple of the Holy Spirit. The only way to maintain the temple is by refraining from sexual immorality, gluttony and other sins that defile the temple.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Pitcharan

Your efforts to keep physically fit will in NO way benefit the temple of the Holy Spirit.

Of course it does. My body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and being such, if I keep my health its more conducive for prayer, serving God and staying alert in the mist of evil.

The only way to maintain the temple is by refraining from sexual immorality, gluttony and other sins that defile the temple.

That too.

God Bless
Jim

 

[Pitcharan]

Of course it does. My body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and being such, if I keep my health its more conducive for prayer, serving God and staying alert in the mist of evil

This is your own illusion. Verify with your Parish Priest if you want

 

[JimR-OCDS]

This is your own illusion. Verify with your Parish Priest if you want

Keeping my body fit is not conducive toward prayer and such ?

Jim

 

[Pitcharan]

Keeping my body fit is not conducive toward prayer and such ?

Being terminally ill and bedridden can make you most conducive toward prayer, contemplation and closeness to God. Why don’t you consult your Parish Priest?

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Being terminally ill and bedridden can make you most conducive toward prayer, contemplation and closeness to God. Why don’t you consult your Parish Priest?

It can but it can also have you in a state where you can’t pray at all.

Why are you telling me to consult my parish priest?

Jim

 

[The_Reginator]

Your efforts to keep physically fit will in NO way benefit the temple of the Holy Spirit. The only way to maintain the temple is by refraining from sexual immorality, gluttony and other sins that defile the temple.

Of course it does. My body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and being such, if I keep my health its more conducive for prayer, serving God and staying alert in the mist of evil.

God Bless
Jim

This looks like an interesting discussion.
I started an new thread, How do we take care of the ‘Temple of the Holy Ghost’?, so that we can get more opinions on this matter. That way we won’t derail this thread too far.

God bless, Reg.

 

[Victorious]

I recently read that purgatory is a place that everyone goes to…when we pass we all ‘see’ our lives (like a movie), then if we believe in God, we go to Heaven to meet him there , for those that do not believe in God, they stay in purgatory until they become spiritually aware, there is no ‘time’ there, so this could takes years in our ‘time’. Once they accept God, they go into Heaven, if they cannot, it said, they remain in purgatory. And obviously those ‘bad’ ones go down to meet Satan.

That’s not what the Church teaches. The Church teaches that at the moment of death, you are judged by Christ and you go straight to your eternal reward: hell if you have chosen to rebel against God, heaven or purgatory if you have chosen to love Him. Those who are in purgatory are saved by definition.

My word, you like to condemn people who don’t believe what you do! And doing that is pretty satanic! Yet here am I, a nonbeliever and yet, I’m not that abrasive!

Then, despite declaring yourself an atheist, you DO believe in Satan! The trouble is, you have not learned to recognize his influence. Telling you truths you do not want to hear is not satanic.

True… if Satan convinces people he does not exist, he can convince people God does not exist. If Satan showed himself, then it would be indirect evidence of God existing, for Satan cannot exist without God existing. There are very few authentic cases of demonic or Devil possession in people that have totally fallen from grace and completely rejected God, as well as opened themselves to darkness in some way. Perhaps God allows possession to occur (in people that reject Him and invite evil in some way) to show people Satan is real and he is the greatest enemy that wants everyone dead including our souls.

Actually, there may be more possessed persons in the world than you think. And it happens that God sometimes permits the devout to be possessed or otherwise tormented by devils, as a means of advancing them in holiness and bolstering or kindling the faith in others.

I acknowledge the existence of Satan and thats all the time I will give him. I’m focused on Jesus Christ and have no time for Satan or hell.

One should not become obsessed with hell; but is having no time for hell quite consistent with the mind of the Church? Why does the Church place before us for our meditation the Four Last Things (death, judgment, hell, heaven)?

 

[John_Russell_Jr]

Satan is real, and so are his coherts. Hell and Purgatory are also very real, and it will be a rude awakening for many who refuse to believe in them up to their dying day.
From: *They Bore the woulds of Christ *by Michael Freze, S.F.O.

… my dear friend …

… we are right now all that we will be eternally and forever , this is because we are in now where all is present at once - not time , with satan and his cohorts whilst they are our ultimate foes and worst enemies now , given they are now what they will be forever and there will be change , if they are restored beyond hell to being the angels their meant to be when we all do a stint in the garden of eden they are now what they will be then - holy angels , but for now they are our worst enemy , we should love them not only given this but because we are loving them as they will be forever - who knows what other changes and titles will occur for them , but hell = infinite suffering to varying degrees so avoid them like the plague whilst they are so insanely evil and sick , we are living love and our purpose is to just " love " god , everyone and everything - even demons - but steer clear of them for your own good absolutely , we love for our own health and sanity , but must be as simple as god and wise as the serpent simultaneously , hope it helps dear friend …

… bless you …

… john …

 

[Victorious]

… my dear friend …

… we are right now all that we will be eternally and forever , this is because we are in now where all is present at once - not time , with satan and his cohorts whilst they are our ultimate foes and worst enemies now , given they are now what they will be forever and there will be change , if they are restored beyond hell to being the angels their meant to be when we all do a stint in the garden of eden they are now what they will be then - holy angels , but for now they are our worst enemy , we should love them not only given this but because we are loving them as they will be forever - who knows what other changes and titles will occur for them , but hell = infinite suffering to varying degrees so avoid them like the plague whilst they are so insanely evil and sick , we are living love and our purpose is to just " love " god , everyone and everything - even demons - but steer clear of them for your own good absolutely , we love for our own health and sanity , but must be as simple as god and wise as the serpent simultaneously , hope it helps dear friend …

… bless you …

… john …