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i need help I’m struggling with my faith really bad right now the hail holy queen prayer calling Mary Our Life Our Sweetness and our Hope i pray this prayer every day and i agree with it but yet the thoughts keep coming back that its idol worship saying that so some ammo to say that its not a sin would be very very helpful, thanks and God bless
 
i need help I’m struggling with my faith really bad right now the hail holy queen prayer calling Mary Our Life Our Sweetness and our Hope i pray this prayer every day and i agree with it but yet the thoughts keep coming back that its idol worship saying that so some ammo to say that its not a sin would be very very helpful, thanks and God bless
It Happens. 🤷 You are in my prayers, I’ll say a rosary for you.

God bless :byzsoc:

David
 
i need help I’m struggling with my faith really bad right now the hail holy queen prayer calling Mary Our Life Our Sweetness and our Hope i pray this prayer every day and i agree with it but yet the thoughts keep coming back that its idol worship saying that so some ammo to say that its not a sin would be very very helpful, thanks and God bless
Steve,

My advice to you. Focus on Christ right now.

I had the same struggle when I first started praying the Rosary. Since it is not required, some advised that I put it to the side and pick it up later when I’m ready. They were right.

There is nothing that says you have to pray the Hail Holy Queen every day.

One step at a time.

Focus on Christ and the teachings of the Church.
 
On the cross Jesus looked down and told His disciple: “behold your mother”, and His mother “behold your son”. Without Mary saying “yes” to God there would be no Incarnation, so to not honor her or to ignore her is disrespectful. Of course our primary allegiance is to God:)
 
Thing to remember is that back then Hail meant Hello. And also Mary isn’t “our life, our sweetness and our hope,” she is the mother of it. Jesus is our life, our sweetness and our hope. Mary is not our God, she is our friend.

If the prayer bothers you, use the Fatima prayer. It is my favorite from the rosary.

Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins. Save us from the fires of Hell. Lead all souls into Heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy. Amen.

I love this prayer because it is short but to the point. If I’m feeling out of control, then I’m praying to Jesus to lead me in the direction he wants me to go. If I’m angry at other people or they’re bothering me, it puts me in the mindset to pray for them, as Jesus would want me to.

If you’re still feeling frazzled, attend mass and try to speak to a priest.
 
Thing to remember is that back then Hail meant Hello. And also Mary isn’t “our life, our sweetness and our hope,” she is the mother of it. Jesus is our life, our sweetness and our hope. Mary is not our God, she is our friend.
As I’ve had occasion to explain elsewhere, that’s not actually a correct view of the prayer. In Latin, the words are:
Mater misericordiae, vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra, salve.
Misericordiae is in the genitive case, making it “of-mercy,” but Mater, vita, dulcedo, and spes nostra are not. They are all in the vocative case, used in direct address. As a Latin matter, it is obvious that Mary is addressed as:
  • Mother of mercy
  • Our:
  • Life
  • Sweetness
  • rHope,
and not, “Our mother of {mercy, life, sweetness, hope}.” If that were the case, the Latin would have had to say, “Mater misericordiae, vitae, dulcedinis, et spei nostrae, salve.”
 
Just think "If I abandon the faith, I will be doing what Satan wants. Do I want to obay the wishes of the same ******* who caused adam and eve to commit original sin, thus bringing evil into the world?
 
The devil knows you are on the right path to the Truth. Thus, he is doing everything he can to keep you away from it.

Focus also on St. Michael:

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Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
by the Divine Power of God -
cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits,
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Amen.

Show the devil who’s boss!! 👍
 
i need help I’m struggling with my faith really bad right now the hail holy queen prayer calling Mary Our Life Our Sweetness and our Hope i pray this prayer every day and i agree with it but yet the thoughts keep coming back that its idol worship saying that so some ammo to say that its not a sin would be very very helpful, thanks and God bless
ourladyswarriors.org/prayer/15promise.htm

Besides the Indulgences attached to the Rosary, Our Lady revealed to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche additional benefits for those who devoutly pray the Rosary. Our Lady’s promise is shown in darker blue text. Additional explanation on and doctrinal connections to each promise is shown following in the smaller normal text font and color. Note that the Rosary is the prayer (non-Liturgical) with the most published Magisterial / Papal documents expounding on its excellence. Vatican II’s summary on Our Lady is contained in Lumen Gentium chapter VIII.
  1. Whosoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary shall receive signal graces.
  2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.
  3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin and defeat heresies.
  4. It will cause good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of men from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire for Eternal Things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.
  5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary shall not perish.
    Since Our Lady is our Mother and Advocate, She always assists those who call on Her implicitly by praying the Rosary. The Church reminds us of this in the Memorare prayer, “… never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help or sought your intercession, was left unaided …”
  6. Whosoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of Eternal Life.
    This promise highlights the magnitude of Graces that the Rosary brings to whomever prays it. One will draw down God’s Mercy rather than His Justice and will have a final chance to repent (see promise #7). One will not be conquered by misfortune means that Our Lady will obtain for the person sufficient Graces to handle said misfortune (i.e. carry the Crosses allowed by God) without falling into despair. As Sacred Scripture tells us, “For my yoke is sweet and my burden light.” (Matthew 11:30)
  7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.
  8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the Light of God and the plenitude of His Graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the Merits of the Saints in Paradise.
    Our Lady is providing the means for the person to have a very holy death.
  9. I shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
  10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of Glory in Heaven.
  11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by recitation of the Rosary.
  12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.
  13. I have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire Celestial Court during their life and at the hour of death.
  14. All who recite the Rosary are my Sons, and brothers of my Only Son Jesus Christ.
    Since the Rosary is a most excellent prayer focused on Jesus and His Life and activities in salvation history, it brings us closer to Our Lord and Our Lady.
  15. Devotion to my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.
    Predestination in this context means that, by the sign which is present to a person from the action of devoutly praying the Rosary, God has pre-ordained your salvation. Absolute certainty of salvation can only be truly known if God reveals it to a person because, although we are given sufficient Grace during life, our salvation depends upon our response to said Grace. (See Summa Theologica, Question 23 for a detailed theological explanation). Said another way, if God has guaranteed a person’s salvation but has not revealed it to Him, God would want that person to pray the Rosary because of all the benefits and Graces obtained. Therefore the person gets a hint by devotion to the Rosary. This is not to say that praying the Rosary guarantees salvation - by no means. In looking at promises #3 and #4 above, praying the Rosary helps one to live a holy life, which is itself a great sign that a soul is on the road to salvation. (See also paragraphs 381, 488, 600, 2782 in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.) In fact, St. Louis de Montfort says even more strongly that “an infallible and unmistakable sign by which we can distinguish a heretic, a man of false doctrine, an enemy of God, from one of God’s true friends is that the hardened sinner and heretic show nothing but contempt and indifference to Our Lady…” [True Devotion to Mary, #30]
Reminder: these promises mean that, by faithfully and devoutly praying the Rosary, Our Lady will obtain for us the necessary Graces to obtain said promises. It is still up to each individual soul to respond to those Graces in order to obtain salvation.
 
i need help I’m struggling with my faith really bad right now the hail holy queen prayer calling Mary Our Life Our Sweetness and our Hope i pray this prayer every day and i agree with it but yet the thoughts keep coming back that its idol worship saying that so some ammo to say that its not a sin would be very very helpful, thanks and God bless
maybe read about what the Saints said about Mary… and the experiences they had with her, that show she is real, and not the devil in disguise 🙂 there HAVE been false revelations etc, but read about the accepted ones. Idol worship is if you placed Mary above God, yet we only go to her in order to come closer to Christ. It might help to read something about Mary by St Louis de Montfort, - he had a very strong devotion to her and he also wrote about how devotion to Mary is Christ- centered.

God bless!
 
i need help I’m struggling with my faith really bad right now the hail holy queen prayer calling Mary Our Life Our Sweetness and our Hope i pray this prayer every day and i agree with it but yet the thoughts keep coming back that its idol worship saying that so some ammo to say that its not a sin would be very very helpful, thanks and God bless
you can see the grammar better in the latin, and the speed with which we recite this prayer obscures the meaning, but we pray to Mary, Mother of mercy [mother of] our life, our sweetness, our hope, in other words Mother of Jesus to whom those epithets refer.
 
I had problems with the logic until a friend explained this:

Much is made of the title Queen of Heaven by those who attack Catholicism and Marian devotion. The allusion is always to the pagan pantheons and to the mother of the gods, often mother in a very carnal sense of other pagan deities. The Canaanite worship of the “Queen of Heaven” condemned by the prophets is mentioned, as is the worship of Diana of the Ephesians, devotion to whom was exceeding popular before the Gospel arrived among the pagans. It is said that Catholicism at the Council of Ephesus restored this pagan devotion under the cover of devotion to Mary. The history of that Council given above shows the absurdity, and the intellectual dishonesty, of that claim! One might as well claim with respect to Jesus that Christians worship a mere man, since to arrive at this conclusion the Church’s teaching must be ripped from its context and distorted to fit a preconceived judgment.

What then does it mean for Mary to be the Queen of Heaven? In the Old Testament monarchy the Queen of the Davidic Kingdom was the Queen Mother. The Kings, for reasons of state and human weakness, had many wives, none of whom fittingly could be called Queen. That honor was reserved for the mother of the King, whose authority far surpassed the many “queens” married to the king. We see this is the role Bathsheba played with respect to King Solomon and the occasions when the Queen Mother acted as regent on behalf of juvenile successors to the throne.

The role of the Queen Mother, therefore, is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Mary, just as the role of the Davidic King is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Jesus. Jesus inherited the Kingdom promised to David, who was told that one of his descendants would rule forever. The angel Gabriel revealed this fact to Mary at her Annunciation,
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Behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name him Jesus. He will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end." (Luke 1:31-33)
Aside from the prophetic types present in the Kingdom of Judah, there is also the text of Psalm 45, which when speaking of the Kingdom of God also speaks of its Queen.
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[6]  Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. [7] Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. [8] All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad. [9] Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir. [10] Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; [11] So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him. (Psalm 45:6-11, KJV)
That Kingdom ruled by God is the same as the Kingdom ruled eternally by the Son of David. It is not an earthly kingdom, though it is present on earth in the Church, but a heavenly kingdom, the Kingdom of God. The Queen of that Kingdom is the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of the Lord God Jesus Christ.

Christ the King of the line of David! All the begets such and such is more important than I thought!

Jesus is just all right with me. :cool:
 
i need help I’m struggling with my faith really bad right now the hail holy queen prayer calling Mary Our Life Our Sweetness and our Hope i pray this prayer every day and i agree with it but yet the thoughts keep coming back that its idol worship saying that so some ammo to say that its not a sin would be very very helpful, thanks and God bless
Persist, that is all that is required of you. I think you know that it is not idol worship, you are merely assailed by thoughts that tell you that it is. Therefore in my humble opinion no amount of logic or evidence will serve to displace these thoughts, rather pray the Rosary all the more fervently and often asking our Lady ‘to crush Satan’s Proud Head’. If you do so you will gain much grace from your praying of the Holy Rosary.

If you want a good book on the Holy Rosary read ‘Secret of the Rosary’ by St. Louis-Marie de Montfort, it will help strengthen you in your faith and provides several methods in order to obtain greater fruit from your prayers of the Holy Rosary.

I will also pray for you.
 
I have had the same thoughts Steve, the point of Marion spirituality is that Mary ALWAYS brings us to Jesus. We should focus on Jesus. I sometimes feel closer to Our Lord when praying the rosary because the meditations are about Jesus. The other Marion prayers not so much. I am just not there in my spiritual life. Right or wrong I look at Mary’s example and how she said yes without question, same with the other saints, but when I pray my focus is Jesus and God. I don’t think I am breaking any “rules” that way. I also fing my thinking that if I say the right combination of prayers I will get what I want like praying is some sort of cosmic vending machine…I don’t think that is right either. I am very careful to focus on God’s will for me and others in my prayers…that others find comfort in Him and grow closer to him and such. I found once I was praying all the time and couldn’t figure out why I felt so distant and then I realizes God did not need me to tell Him what to do, he doesn’t need my advise.
 
thank y’all for the advice and prayers they have helped me more than y’all will know God bless and may Our Lady pray for us all 🙂
 
CountrySteve,

What you are experiencing is the Holy Spirit revealing to you what is in the book of Acts 2. Mary was included in the 120 saints in the upper room where Jesus told them to wait for the Holy Spirit. This means that she needed the Holy Spirit and forgiveness of sins just like we all did/do. This is the Day of Pentecost which happened 50 days after the resurrection of Jesus. To worship Mary or any other thing but Jesus is to perform Idol worship. For God says:

“Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.” Isaiah 44:6
 
CountrySteve,

What you are experiencing is the Holy Spirit revealing to you what is in the book of Acts 2. Mary was included in the 120 saints in the upper room where Jesus told them to wait for the Holy Spirit. This means that she needed the Holy Spirit and forgiveness of sins just like we all did/do. This is the Day of Pentecost which happened 50 days after the resurrection of Jesus. To worship Mary or any other thing but Jesus is to perform Idol worship. For God says:

“Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.” Isaiah 44:6
This is not Catholic teaching! You are misinformed about what Catholics believe.

Catholics do not worship Mary, and she was sinless from the first moment of her conception. (Immaculate Conception). She is sinless because God saved her in advance, that is why in the Magnificat prayer she says “my spirit rejoices in God my saviour”.

Mary is the spouse of the Holy Spirit, and was overshadowed by the Holy Spirit in order for there to be the Incarnation. Mary never needed forgiveness because she never sinned.
 
I would like to know where in God’s holy word it says that mary was concieved via the Holy Spirit. This would make the book of Acts a lie because why would she also need the Holy Spirit along with the Apostles. Sin comes via the blood line we get our blood from our fathers. This is why Jesus had no earthly father. Mary was from the line of David who slept with another man’s wife. Solomon who worshiped idols going on down to Mary. She needed a Savior just like everyone else. Nowhere in the Bible does it say to pray to her. It tells us to usethe living Savior’s name. Mary was human and she cannot answer any prayers or help u pray. We do respect her as Jesus mother but Jesus is our connection to Hod all by himself. If u can find scripture referencing for what u believe please post. But its not in the Bible. I am going verse by verse to Jesus for myself.
 
I would like to know where in God’s holy word it says that mary was concieved via the Holy Spirit. This would make the book of Acts a lie because why would she also need the Holy Spirit along with the Apostles. Sin comes via the blood line we get our blood from our fathers. This is why Jesus had no earthly father. Mary was from the line of David who slept with another man’s wife. Solomon who worshiped idols going on down to Mary. She needed a Savior just like everyone else. Nowhere in the Bible does it say to pray to her. It tells us to usethe living Savior’s name. Mary was human and she cannot answer any prayers or help u pray. We do respect her as Jesus mother but Jesus is our connection to Hod all by himself. If u can find scripture referencing for what u believe please post. But its not in the Bible. I am going verse by verse to Jesus for myself.
Here you go:

“This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit.”
Matthew 1:18
 
Ooops… You were referring to the Immaculate conception.

Nobody says that Mary herself was conceived by the Holy Spirit. She was conceived without the stain of original sin, there is a difference there.
 
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