satan

[mikekle]

I have very slowly begun to research these “zeta reticuli aliens”, and here is where I am at today:

YouTube: Kathleen Marden - Experiencers Speak on the Alien Agenda

I’m paused at about halfway through, where she is discussing genetic material… how the “alien” species cannot reproduce anymore, so they require assistance from human beings, genetically.

Well then, who created all these different extraterrestrial species to begin with (since apparently, there are more than one)? Of all these different extraterrestrial species, how do THEY account for satan, and for Christ? Aren’t people asking those questions?

I want these extraterrestrial creatures to give an account, to human beings. I want them to give an account of God, Christ and satan (and even give an account of Mohammed and Krishna and Buddha, and whoever else). I want them to give an account of who created them, and why.

Maybe it’s out there somewhere and I will eventually find it, but as of right now, I do not see any human beings asking those questions. The only aspect of “religion” that ever enters the discussions is this idea that “aliens = demons”, which I seriously disagree with. The only thing I feel inclined to agree with is that *reptilians *(which seem to be a distinct species, from other extraterrestrials) would be the “demons”.

And the next thing I’m going to be looking for is the technology and air craft of reptilians (considering if they truly are a distinct, different species from “zeta” or “greys”).

Sigh…

OH, there are PLENTY of people asking those questions, but problem is, they are thought of as nuts and crazy, and not taken seriously. I have been a member of an Alien/ UFO forums board for years and they discuss things like this all the time, but unfortunately, most of it is all speculation, as we dont know the details for sure.

I have a feeling our Govt and Military do know alot more than they let on, there is 1000s of govt documents that mention this very topic, if it did not exist and they did not have some knowledge about, why so much talk about it then? But that is a different debate altogether.

I do agree about the Reptilians, and that this is exactly what Satan is, although I do think some demons have disguised themselves as ‘greys’ and probably even ‘nordic’ type aliens, in an attempt to trick the humans into thinking ALL aliens are demons, or ALL demons are aliens…LOL

Im actually pretty heavily into the UFO/ Alien topic, I have sent quite a few emails to senators, congressmen, and others trying to get answers, because I DO HAVE A STRONG desire to know the questions you have asked, such as WHO created them, WHY, how long ago, WHAT is their agenda with us and earth? Im on the fence about the reproduction theory, it could be true, but as advanced as they are…I think they could ‘engineer’ their way out of that problem, but who knows?

If you get interested, Try googling Senator Byrd and National security adviser Dick DaMato, back in the early 90s, senator Byrd requested DaMato to investigate the UFO incidents and they found a ‘black arm’ of the govt that had unlimited funds to spend in keeping the UFO topic a secret from the public, but these people were above the law, so it went nowhere, but I find it extremely curious they were even able to find this black arm!!! I am currently trying to get some FOIA documents about this investigation released to me, this investigation was a major reason why I believe our Govt is involved in this.

I may have already mentioned this in a previous post, but I have read a few statements from witnesses that they tend to think some of these crafts people are seeing MAY be an actual alien being itself…one lady that claimed to see a craft up close and personal said the craft itself was acting like an individual being and not just a ‘transport’ or craft, she said the way it ‘danced’ around her farm was another reason she thought this could be the case

 

[gmx2014]

OH, there are PLENTY of people asking those questions, but problem is, they are thought of as nuts and crazy, and not taken seriously. I have been a member of an Alien/ UFO forums board for years and they discuss things like this all the time, but unfortunately, most of it is all speculation, as we dont know the details for sure.

I have a feeling our Govt and Military do know alot more than they let on, there is 1000s of govt documents that mention this very topic, if it did not exist and they did not have some knowledge about, why so much talk about it then? But that is a different debate altogether.

I do agree about the Reptilians, and that this is exactly what Satan is, although I do think some demons have disguised themselves as ‘greys’ and probably even ‘nordic’ type aliens, in an attempt to trick the humans into thinking ALL aliens are demons, or ALL demons are aliens…LOL

Im actually pretty heavily into the UFO/ Alien topic, I have sent quite a few emails to senators, congressmen, and others trying to get answers, because I DO HAVE A STRONG desire to know the questions you have asked, such as WHO created them, WHY, how long ago, WHAT is their agenda with us and earth? Im on the fence about the reproduction theory, it could be true, but as advanced as they are…I think they could ‘engineer’ their way out of that problem, but who knows?

If you get interested, Try googling Senator Byrd and National security adviser Dick DaMato, back in the early 90s, senator Byrd requested DaMato to investigate the UFO incidents and they found a ‘black arm’ of the govt that had unlimited funds to spend in keeping the UFO topic a secret from the public, but these people were above the law, so it went nowhere, but I find it extremely curious they were even able to find this black arm!!! I am currently trying to get some FOIA documents about this investigation released to me, this investigation was a major reason why I believe our Govt is involved in this.

I may have already mentioned this in a previous post, but I have read a few statements from witnesses that they tend to think some of these crafts people are seeing MAY be an actual alien being itself…one lady that claimed to see a craft up close and personal said the craft itself was acting like an individual being and not just a ‘transport’ or craft, she said the way it ‘danced’ around her farm was another reason she thought this could be the case

I learned from the presentation by Kathleen that the air craft are partly biological (can sense and think). That makes perfect sense to me.

I’m reading this, this morning, where the author says,

"Historical, mythological, religious, and archeological records indicate aliens interacted openly with humans in ancient times. There were different warring alien factions, each faction had their respective human followers who saw them as gods and got caught up in their skirmishes. Some of this is evident in the Old Testament. Considering Biblical chronology, it appears that starting around 1,000 B.C. human-alien interactions became more covert, transitioning from “gods” openly walking the earth to private meetings with selected individuals, ambiguous sightings, and subjective visions.

montalk.net/alien/145/discerning-alien-disinformation-part-1

I’m not sure I believe that the OT is any reference, or has information, but I’m open to what information there may be.

Are you familiar with Phoenix Lights, and councilwoman Francis Barwood? I LOVE her!! In my eyes, she is a true Heroine. I think she’s just great.

“Frances Barwood, the 1997 Phoenix city councilwoman who launched an investigation into the event, said that of the over 700 witnesses she interviewed, “The government never interviewed even one”.[32]”


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights

More from montalk.net,

“When they hover at low altitudes over cars and buildings an audible pulsating hum is typically heard.”

YES!

 

[gmx2014]

Plenty of “disclosure” in this video!

Thrive - Crop Circles are Clues to New Energy Technology!

Video is 33 minutes long. At 13 minutes, astronaut Edgar Mitchell (Apollo 14 - sixth man on the moon) testifies:

“Yes, there have been ET visitation, there have been crashed craft. There have been, ah, ah, material and bodies recovered.”

Next is Sergeant Clifford Stone (U.S. Army - Extraterrestrial Retrieval Team) saying:

“We have contact with aliens, not originating from some foreign country, but from some other solar system. And I have been a party to that.”

It continues on with others speaking on the matter. VERY interesting!! How does this not constitute “disclosure” ?? Unless it is a matter of people wanting information to fill in the blanks, because experiencers who are outside of government and military DEPEND on that information.

 

[Skadi]

Plenty of “disclosure” in this video!

Thrive - Crop Circles are Clues to New Energy Technology!

Video is 33 minutes long. At 13 minutes, astronaut Edgar Mitchell (Apollo 14 - sixth man on the moon) testifies:

“Yes, there have been ET visitation, there have been crashed craft. There have been, ah, ah, material and bodies recovered.”

Next is Sergeant Clifford Stone (U.S. Army - Extraterrestrial Retrieval Team) saying:

“We have contact with aliens, not originating from some foreign country, but from some other solar system. And I have been a party to that.”

It continues on with others speaking on the matter. VERY interesting!! How does this not constitute “disclosure” ?? Unless it is a matter of people wanting information to fill in the blanks, because experiencers who are outside of government and military DEPEND on that information.

I totaly agree, I think “first contact” happened long ago. In ancient times people likely saw extraterrestrial beings as divine or demonic, but now as our understanding of science has grown it would be benificial for them to have contact solely with the governments of country’s. and likewise it is benificial for the ruling elite to prevent conclusive knowledge of ETs from reaching the public, such knowledge would cause hysteria, distrust of government, and possibly unregulated trade and socialization with extraterrestrials by the general populace.

There is no doubt in my mind our government communicates with ETs and keeps this knowledge from the general public. It is entirely to their advantage.

 

[gmx2014]

I totaly agree, I think “first contact” happened long ago. In ancient times people likely saw extraterrestrial beings as divine or demonic, but now as our understanding of science has grown it would be benificial for them to have contact solely with the governments of country’s. and likewise it is benificial for the ruling elite to prevent conclusive knowledge of ETs from reaching the public, such knowledge would cause hysteria, distrust of government, and possibly unregulated trade and socialization with extraterrestrials by the general populace.

There is no doubt in my mind our government communicates with ETs and keeps this knowledge from the general public. It is entirely to their advantage.

But what’s so interesting is the volume of information from experiencers, who are completely outside of government affiliations or associations.

I know the general public are not mature enough to tolerate certain information but at the same time, I don’t believe that the masses should be treated as completely incompetent. I mean, we already know plenty, if we just go look for the information. It’s out there. But information is going to be significantly less important to non-experiencers as it will be to experiencers. The non-experiencers have no need. Experiencers do have the need. And where they have the need, they have the right…

 

[Skadi]

But what’s so interesting is the volume of information from experiencers, who are completely outside of government affiliations or associations.

I know the general public are not mature enough to tolerate certain information but at the same time, I don’t believe that the masses should be treated as completely incompetent. I mean, we already know plenty, if we just go look for the information. It’s out there. But information is going to be significantly less important to non-experiencers as it will be to experiencers. The non-experiencers have no need. Experiencers do have the need. And where they have the need, they have the right…

The thing is, in today’s society most people are culturally trained to dismiss and even ridicule UFO experiences, which is exactly what the government wants. When I was 9 years old i experienced a close encounter of the 2nd kind, which my parents imediately dismissed and which i was ridiculed for all the way through elimentary school and jr. High. I would meet kinds from other schools and be told “oh your that alien kid!” Even though I rarely brought up the subject. And infact it is even worse for adults, who have their mental stability called into question. While belief in ET encounters continues to rise and the idea that life must exist SOMEWHERE out there has become accepted by a majority of people, there is still a strong cultural bias against such story’s.

The problem is further compounded by the government who after the PR slip up at Roswell has seriously put the clamps on UFO information. Modern technology and laws like the patriot act and the Prism program as well as improved radar allow the government to quickly discover and contain any incidents. While general trust in government is falling in the US it has been reletively strong sense the 40s and that has led people to simple believe even the most outragious or impossible explanations given for events. If you believe the governments reports on UFO sightings you better call your congressman and ask him to do something about all the “Swamp Gas” that’s causing these UFO sightings.

 

[gmx2014]

The thing is, in today’s society most people are culturally trained to dismiss and even ridicule UFO experiences, which is exactly what the government wants. When I was 9 years old i experienced a close encounter of the 2nd kind, which my parents imediately dismissed and which i was ridiculed for all the way through elimentary school and jr. High. I would meet kinds from other schools and be told “oh your that alien kid!” Even though I rarely brought up the subject. And infact it is even worse for adults, who have their mental stability called into question. While belief in ET encounters continues to rise and the idea that life must exist SOMEWHERE out there has become accepted by a majority of people, there is still a strong cultural bias against such story’s.

The problem is further compounded by the government who after the PR slip up at Roswell has seriously put the clamps on UFO information. Modern technology and laws like the patriot act and the Prism program as well as improved radar allow the government to quickly discover and contain any incidents. While general trust in government is falling in the US it has been reletively strong sense the 40s and that has led people to simple believe even the most outragious or impossible explanations given for events. If you believe the governments reports on UFO sightings you better call your congressman and ask him to do something about all the “Swamp Gas” that’s causing these UFO sightings.

I completely agree that people are heavily cultivated and conditioned to dismiss and deny (and even to “punish” with ridicule and ostracizing). I’ve always been outside of those sorts of social rules and that is just exactly where I’m forever going to stay.

Have you ever been to a MUFON conference? I haven’t but I really, really want to go to one. I might take a look to see if there’s any info about a relationship or interaction between gov / NASA and MUFON. THAT would be fascinating!

This field of study is unbelievably vast and complex. I’m not sure that I’d have a proper approach to call a congressman.

 

[Skadi]

I completely agree that people are heavily cultivated and conditioned to dismiss and deny (and even to “punish” with ridicule and ostracizing). I’ve always been outside of those sorts of social rules and that is just exactly where I’m forever going to stay.

Have you ever been to a MUFON conference? I haven’t but I really, really want to go to one. I might take a look to see if there’s any info about a relationship or interaction between gov / NASA and MUFON. THAT would be fascinating!

This field of study is unbelievably vast and complex. I’m not sure that I’d have a proper approach to call a congressman.

I absoluetly agree and I strongly oppose the “us-them” mentality of society in that it encourages mistreetment of people simply for holding beliefs not in the mainstream.

No but I would absolutely love to. I met a MUFON worker once and had a fascinating conversation, mostly related to crop circles. I would imagine that the government uses every tool at its disposal to acquire information about UFO sightings, both to keep them contained and to do research. With a dragnet system like Prism it would not be difficult to have general triggers sending any texts, calls, emails, ect with relation to UFO sightings to a special group or more intricate program which sifts through and can aquire usable data and possibly alert government forces to possible UFO encounters. People don’t realize just how much info government survalence can aquire, especialy with computers that can sift through metadata and find persons of interest, who can then be subjected to more focused survalence. I am as certain as one can be without proof that metadata systems like prism were used to provide demographic info to our "fearless leader"s most recent campaign. It wouldn’t surprise me if that’s part of the stuff Snowden hasn’t released yet. Such use would perfectly fit the psychological profile of the current administration, that of “self-justifying pragmatism”, the use of all available methods to aid oneself, believing that it will further the greater good for oneself to win.

And the last bit was just a joke.

 

[gmx2014]

I absoluetly agree and I strongly oppose the “us-them” mentality of society in that it encourages mistreetment of people simply for holding beliefs not in the mainstream.

No but I would absolutely love to. I met a MUFON worker once and had a fascinating conversation, mostly related to crop circles. I would imagine that the government uses every tool at its disposal to acquire information about UFO sightings, both to keep them contained and to do research. With a dragnet system like Prism it would not be difficult to have general triggers sending any texts, calls, emails, ect with relation to UFO sightings to a special group or more intricate program which sifts through and can aquire usable data and possibly alert government forces to possible UFO encounters. People don’t realize just how much info government survalence can aquire, especialy with computers that can sift through metadata and find persons of interest, who can then be subjected to more focused survalence. I am as certain as one can be without proof that metadata systems like prism were used to provide demographic info to our "fearless leader"s most recent campaign. It wouldn’t surprise me if that’s part of the stuff Snowden hasn’t released yet. Such use would perfectly fit the psychological profile of the current administration, that of “self-justifying pragmatism”, the use of all available methods to aid oneself, believing that it will further the greater good for oneself to win.

And the last bit was just a joke.

I wonder how much influence / power / control the aliens / extraterrestrials have over government (and probably NASA, too). Maybe Iran is correct that the United States government is controlled by ET’s. I just don’t know if it’s “nazi” control (though it seems that montalk would encourage me to be more discerning about ET’s and their intentions).

I haven’t had an experience (that I’m consciously aware of) for about 3 or 4 months now. I feel energized and impatient, like I want to know all of everything RIGHT NOW. I feel demanding, like a child. I don’t want to wait for Christmas! Give me every detail, right now!!

I’d rather be in a space ship than one of NASA’s rockets

Subterranean Homesick Alien

p.s.

I want to know what space aliens think of Radiohead. And what they think of Metallica. And all other music. Can they FEEL it? Do they make music of their own? Do they dance? Do they fall down and roll on the floor laughing? Are they ticklish? Do they like to play dress up in fancy clothes and funky wigs? What is their playfulness like?

I want to play with them SOOO bad! lol

 

[hu324b]

The works of the devil make it impossible for us to conceive of him as being other than incorporeal. If he were material he would be limited by space; and therefore, could not carry on the universal works of wickedness ascribed to him in the Bible.

Ezekiel 28:12-18 describes him as being a cherub what it looks like now I don’t know and don’t want to know.

I was visited by a demon in a reoccurring dream (10-25 can’t remember exactly how many) and in all but one of the dreams it was a feeling that I cannot describe - a horrible un-describable feeling that I have never felt in my life. It only showed it self in the last dream where all of a sudden a sword of light appeared in my hands and I immediately swung at the demon which I only saw for a split second and it disappeared ( I can’t remember and don’t want to) and I never had the dreams again and I hope I never do again.

 

[gmx2014]

I read page 1 of montalk’s website earlier, now I’m reading page 2

montalk.net/alien/146/discerning-alien-disinformation-part-2

If this part is true…

*Energy Harvesting and Implants

One of these hidden elements is the harvesting of lifeforce energy from abductees by traumatizing them with fear, terror, pain, sexual violation, humiliation, or despair. Negative emotions trigger a thick emission of subtle energy from the abductee that is then collected. Greys nearby the abductee can function as siphons through which remotely interfaced Reptilians can slurp up the energy. There are numerous ways to accomplish this, one being sham medical procedures whose real purpose is to disempower and torment the abductee under the guise of necessary research3. Most of this is covered up with layered screen memories of superficial positive experiences, whereby the abductee may have faint memories of being taken and have an irrationally wonderful feeling about it on the one hand, but lingering anxiety and signs of post-traumatic stress on the other.

Yet another method is to induce an atmosphere of fear in the life of the abductee, fear of being taken again, fear of having their children targeted, and fear of creepy aliens skulking about the house at night. Abductee reports of being raped by reptilian entities are not uncommon, which would be a more direct method of harvesting energy and psychologically fracturing the abductee.*

… then it would** have to** apply to people in government / military, and if *that’s *true, then we should probably be **very **concerned about those people.

I have to say that my experiences are not traumatic. What has been “traumatic” is having such experiences but nobody to discuss them with.

My first experience was in 1999 and it took YEARS for me to process that, which I had to do completely alone, because there just wasn’t anybody to talk to. That part really frustrated me more than the experience itself.

I’m not saying that other people’s experiences have not been outright harmful but mine haven’t been.

It seems like there are actually many people who speak, in interviews on camera, from the U.S. government, so here are my non-direct questions, being thought out loud:

1. do any other country’s officials ever go on record, like the United States has? I know Canada has somebody out there who was interviewed. But who else? China? Russia? The Koreas? Japan? England? Italy? Spain? France? Greece? Egypt?
2. do they ever discuss victimization, like experiencers from the general public do?

Another question is…

Do extraterrestrials have favorite countries? Least favorite countries?

I think montalk’s section on Mind Programming would also have to apply to members of government / military (and NASA).

I’m not sure about montalk’s stuff. I suppose I’ll have to keep reading.

OH, finally… one more thing, so I don’t forget…

Are there any specifications on demons?! I’m not overly-interested to study demonology but there must be at least *some *authoritative work on their existence? Something that really spells it out and makes it clear, just what they are and exactly what they’re not.

 

[gmx2014]

The works of the devil make it impossible for us to conceive of him as being other than incorporeal. If he were material he would be limited by space; and therefore, could not carry on the universal works of wickedness ascribed to him in the Bible.

Ezekiel 28:12-18 describes him as being a cherub what it looks like now I don’t know and don’t want to know.

I was visited by a demon in a reoccurring dream (10-25 can’t remember exactly how many) and in all but one of the dreams it was a feeling that I cannot describe - a horrible un-describable feeling that I have never felt in my life. It only showed it self in the last dream where all of a sudden a sword of light appeared in my hands and I immediately swung at the demon which I only saw for a split second and it disappeared ( I can’t remember and don’t want to) and I never had the dreams again and I hope I never do again.

I didn’t dream of satan, or mentally conceive of it. It is my lived reality, direct experience. It was no dream or “hallucination”, and it wasn’t a demon or alien pretending. I know what I experienced. I have NO doubt and NO question, whatsoever. And I don’t have any reason to brainwash myself into disbelieving what I know to be absolutely real and true. I have no need and no reason to deny it but other people do seem to have those needs.

The supernatural is not limited, and functions quite differently from ordinary human beings, in this world.

I know dreams, like the one you had, are serious and powerful, but at least you have this to rely on: if you ever do experience it again, you know you can handle it. Because you already have.

 

[Skadi]

I wonder how much influence / power / control the aliens / extraterrestrials have over government (and probably NASA, too). Maybe Iran is correct that the United States government is controlled by ET’s. I just don’t know if it’s “nazi” control (though it seems that montalk would encourage me to be more discerning about ET’s and their intentions).

I haven’t had an experience (that I’m consciously aware of) for about 3 or 4 months now. I feel energized and impatient, like I want to know all of everything RIGHT NOW. I feel demanding, like a child. I don’t want to wait for Christmas! Give me every detail, right now!!

I’d rather be in a space ship than one of NASA’s rockets

Subterranean Homesick Alien

p.s.

I want to know what space aliens think of Radiohead. And what they think of Metallica. And all other music. Can they FEEL it? Do they make music of their own? Do they dance? Do they fall down and roll on the floor laughing? Are they ticklish? Do they like to play dress up in fancy clothes and funky wigs? What is their playfulness like?

I want to play with them SOOO bad! lol

I honestly don’t subscribe to the Nazi UFO theories, allthough they did develope the famouse “Bell” which proprtedly had anti-grav capeability.

I also have interest in how alien culture has developed, if it will be totaly different or share some similaritys.

One thing I do think though is that this idea that alien races capeable of space travel will all live in a peaceful galactic society is absolutely nuts. Nature shows us that the most inteligent animals are predators. Humans are the dominant preditor on earth because we are the smartest (reletively speeking). Once a species ecosystem moves beyond their home plannet and they now compete against other top tear life forms they will only become more inteligent. It’s the natural evolutionary process. I imagine aliens being mostly violent or atleast devious.

 

[gmx2014]

I honestly don’t subscribe to the Nazi UFO theories, allthough they did develope the famouse “Bell” which proprtedly had anti-grav capeability.

I also have interest in how alien culture has developed, if it will be totaly different or share some similaritys.

One thing I do think though is that this idea that alien races capeable of space travel will all live in a peaceful galactic society is absolutely nuts. Nature shows us that the most inteligent animals are predators. Humans are the dominant preditor on earth because we are the smartest (reletively speeking). Once a species ecosystem moves beyond their home plannet and they now compete against other top tear life forms they will only become more inteligent. It’s the natural evolutionary process. I imagine aliens being mostly violent or atleast devious.

Hmm. I spent about a year with a community called Hybrid Children. Their beliefs and feelings are the exact opposite of any sort of hostility, aggressiveness or malevolence. I identified with their beliefs and feelings because they mostly match my own (based on the handful of experiences I’ve had, even though my experiences aren’t specifically “hybrid children”).

I just picked this comment up from their page:

February 18 at 7:11pm

WE’LL FORCE CONGRESSI0NAL HEARINGS ON EXTRATERRESTRIALS WHO AFFECT EARTH; BASSETT MOVES FROM MOCK HEARINGS TO REAL DISCLOSURE: Net Radio and article on link below
.
Hosts Dr. Sasha and Janet Kira Lessin interviewed Steve Bassett, who orchestrated the disclosure hearings last year (May 2013), on his campaign to force congress to hold hearings about legislation to end the trillion-dollar black project truth embargo that has kept secret the continuing disinformation about ET presence, technology sharing and potential to end our dependency on fossil fuels, nuclear power and war industries.

**The overwhelming evidence of ET intervention to abort nuclear war, display space travel means and hybridize ETs and Earthlings **recorded in on DVD from the mock ET hearings last year will be presented, says Bassett, to every member of congress. A campaign we citizens will demand congressional representatives peruse thee DVDs will, he says, force Congress and the President to end the truth embargo and allow us to **enjoy gifts of pollution-free energy, space travel and advanced medicine offered us by the ETs.
**
Hear Bassett, read details at
extraterrestrialcontact.com/2014/02/18/force-congress-hearings-on-ets-here-basset-moves-from-mock-hearings-to-real-disclosure-net-radio-and-article/

So there are two very distinct bodies of thought on the matter. One part (montalk) is saying that medical procedures are a ruse, and that what’s actually happening is some sort of sadistic, sick torture. The other part (Hybrid Children) is saying that ETs have “advanced medicine”.

Here’s an interesting point…

If they intend harm to Humanity, why make hybrid children?

 

[Skadi]

Hmm. I spent about a year with a community called Hybrid Children. Their beliefs and feelings are the exact opposite of any sort of hostility, aggressiveness or malevolence. I identified with their beliefs and feelings because they mostly match my own (based on the handful of experiences I’ve had, even though my experiences aren’t specifically “hybrid children”).

I just picked this comment up from their page:

February 18 at 7:11pm

WE’LL FORCE CONGRESSI0NAL HEARINGS ON EXTRATERRESTRIALS WHO AFFECT EARTH; BASSETT MOVES FROM MOCK HEARINGS TO REAL DISCLOSURE: Net Radio and article on link below
.
Hosts Dr. Sasha and Janet Kira Lessin interviewed Steve Bassett, who orchestrated the disclosure hearings last year (May 2013), on his campaign to force congress to hold hearings about legislation to end the trillion-dollar black project truth embargo that has kept secret the continuing disinformation about ET presence, technology sharing and potential to end our dependency on fossil fuels, nuclear power and war industries.

**The overwhelming evidence of ET intervention to abort nuclear war, display space travel means and hybridize ETs and Earthlings **recorded in on DVD from the mock ET hearings last year will be presented, says Bassett, to every member of congress. A campaign we citizens will demand congressional representatives peruse thee DVDs will, he says, force Congress and the President to end the truth embargo and allow us to **enjoy gifts of pollution-free energy, space travel and advanced medicine offered us by the ETs.
**
Hear Bassett, read details at
extraterrestrialcontact.com/2014/02/18/force-congress-hearings-on-ets-here-basset-moves-from-mock-hearings-to-real-disclosure-net-radio-and-article/

So there are two very distinct bodies of thought on the matter. One part (montalk) is saying that medical procedures are a ruse, and that what’s actually happening is some sort of sadistic, sick torture. The other part (Hybrid Children) is saying that ETs have “advanced medicine”.

Here’s an interesting point…

If they intend harm to Humanity, why make hybrid children?

Its a common Sci-Fi ideal, this idea that as we become more technologically advanced we turn less violent, its an ideal we all have in our head from a young age. but in fact while our technology changes the opposite realy almost seams to be true. If technology and liberalism and socialism ect breed kinder societys then why in the 20th century did The Bolshevicks kill millions of Russians? followed by 10s of millions under Stalin? why were thousands of young men swept out of existence minuets at Verdun and on the Somme? How did the worlds most advanced country in the 30’s, Germany, Commit genocide to the tune of 12 million and start a world war? Or Japans near 15 million from 1937 to 45 in China? You think the US killing 80,000 people with the Atomic bomb was bad? how about 100,000 in one night when they bombed Dresden, or better yet 2,000,000 Japanese dying over a few weeks as the US firebombed Tokyo. And lets not forget Maos 10s of millions, Pol Pots 2 million, or all the other wars and dictators.

Technology has not made man any less violent. The average person may be a bit more sheepish and corralled by the power of the state, but all technology has done is give us the tools to kill and oppress each other more efficiently. I only have one planet to get information from, but on this planet the most intelligent and ruthless predator is king, and i would imagine the same goes for others.

I personally dont know much about or believe the Hybrid-Baby stories although I have heard a few on TV, ect. However that right there could have very sinister motives, after all, abducting people to make use of their DNA against their will? definitely not morally justifiable where I come from. While Nordic Blondes appear in reports to be more benevolent that dosnt mean they dont harbor more sinister intentions, and there is no denying that the Greys are terrifyingly malevolent to people, using us as experimental test subjects.

But just think about this, if they were here with truly and fully benign intentions, why would they not come out in public, regardless of our governments? After all if they are benevolent beings of the space age out worlds multinational system must seem as primitive as caveman tribes do to us. Many people here on earth languish under cruel regimes and even the others are forcibly taxed, surveyed, and generally mistreated by their governments, who lie to them constantly. People starve to death and suffer from disease every day and a space age civilization would have the power to help with that, so if they are benevolent, why dont they? The prime directive? because they break that all the time.

 

[Skadi]

Sense we were on this subject I just had to go re watch the 4th kind. Still the scariest damn movie I’ve ever seen.

 

[gmx2014]

Its a common Sci-Fi ideal, this idea that as we become more technologically advanced we turn less violent, its an ideal we all have in our head from a young age. but in fact while our technology changes the opposite realy almost seams to be true. If technology and liberalism and socialism ect breed kinder societys then why in the 20th century did The Bolshevicks kill millions of Russians? followed by 10s of millions under Stalin? why were thousands of young men swept out of existence minuets at Verdun and on the Somme? How did the worlds most advanced country in the 30’s, Germany, Commit genocide to the tune of 12 million and start a world war? Or Japans near 15 million from 1937 to 45 in China? You think the US killing 80,000 people with the Atomic bomb was bad? how about 100,000 in one night when they bombed Dresden, or better yet 2,000,000 Japanese dying over a few weeks as the US firebombed Tokyo. And lets not forget Maos 10s of millions, Pol Pots 2 million, or all the other wars and dictators.

Technology has not made man any less violent. The average person may be a bit more sheepish and corralled by the power of the state, but all technology has done is give us the tools to kill and oppress each other more efficiently. I only have one planet to get information from, but on this planet the most intelligent and ruthless predator is king, and i would imagine the same goes for others.

I personally dont know much about or believe the Hybrid-Baby stories although I have heard a few on TV, ect. However that right there could have very sinister motives, after all, abducting people to make use of their DNA against their will? definitely not morally justifiable where I come from. While Nordic Blondes appear in reports to be more benevolent that dosnt mean they dont harbor more sinister intentions, and there is no denying that the Greys are terrifyingly malevolent to people, using us as experimental test subjects.

But just think about this, if they were here with truly and fully benign intentions, why would they not come out in public, regardless of our governments? After all if they are benevolent beings of the space age out worlds multinational system must seem as primitive as caveman tribes do to us. Many people here on earth languish under cruel regimes and even the others are forcibly taxed, surveyed, and generally mistreated by their governments, who lie to them constantly. People starve to death and suffer from disease every day and a space age civilization would have the power to help with that, so if they are benevolent, why dont they? The prime directive? because they break that all the time.

Wow, great frame of human evil. That was a very clear picture.

I agree that it is an offense to moral senses, in creating hybrids. Some people say that there were soul agreements but I’m not sure if that’s universally true. If people aren’t given a choice (an informed choice is the best choice), then their free will is technically being violated.

I think aliens / extraterrestrials can’t openly coexist freely with Humanity because we are not mature enough to handle it. But it’s a great question: of those who* are* capable of bettering life, why don’t they? Those who have the ability and the means have the responsibility, duty and obligation.

 

[Skadi]

Wow, great frame of human evil. That was a very clear picture.

I agree that it is an offense to moral senses, in creating hybrids. Some people say that there were soul agreements but I’m not sure if that’s universally true. If people aren’t given a choice (an informed choice is the best choice), then their free will is technically being violated.

I think aliens / extraterrestrials can’t openly coexist freely with Humanity because we are not mature enough to handle it. But it’s a great question: of those who* are* capable of bettering life, why don’t they? Those who have the ability and the means have the responsibility, duty and obligation.

This is a possibility, for sure, but I think generally we would have dificulty doing much to them. Just about any Inter-Stellar ship would have some sort of very strong shield/armor which could possibly take a full modern nuke directly. They have been watching our military capeability for some time, ie. Foo Fighters, high proportion of UFOs at Missle Silos, Air bases. They even have jamming technology way in advance of ours, as shown in. The famouse Israeli F4 encounter.

Personally, what I think is that we are a back water world in the outer galaxy, like a far flung pacific island, and that generally ETs only come here specificaly to do research on us or to make repairs en-rout to somewhere else. I think it’s a big galaxy out there and there has to be alot of life, it may not be a cosmopolitan galaxy like starwars, but I definately think they interact with eachother on a galactic scale. I imagine they fight wars, and that galactic empires rise and fall over the centuries. Like in that early Star Trek episode where they find that lost outpost of an empire dead for thousands of years.

I truly wish I could know but there is no advantage for them to meet us on equal terms. They are the European traders and we are the hopelessly outgunned indigenous population.