Satanists conduct "Black Masses." Do they also conduct "Black Bible study services"??

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Dolphin

Only we can control ourselves, we cannot control others. And others cant control us.

But like Imry said we can think we are being controlled. The decision is actually ours.

Angels ex is playing a losing game, because hes thinking he has this power at his hands to control.

But what hes not realising is the power is actually from his own hands.

Which would hurt someone more?

Imryl

I did mangage to elaborate on the magician (228 I think) , was curious if it made any more sense or still muddy,

this thread still moves pretty quick.
 
I am Southern Baptist, but had to laugh at the good point in the title of the thread. Interesting! However, some non Catholic Christians might say that they use a black mass because they are mirroring something they aka demons already encourage in Catholic churches. I don’t think that’s the case, but some fundamentalist Christians or Evangelicals will say anything sometimes when it comes to Catholicism. Some of it is absolutely ridiculous…oh well.
 
Kitty_Chan said:
I spoke of all of us having a common belief and that is Christ, in Him we are joined, Im not sure how that makes you state what you did about me being a ememy?

It didnt sound harsh but rather accusing. It sounded like you were saying that because satan caused the split that protestants were following him. Because they werent following the one true church. So put in that way, yea it makes it sound like you think protestants are bad.

Thats why I said dont put stock in satan even if he did cause the split, because God will turn it around and even though split He will reach His sheep still.

So fine if you werent saying that great, we have a understanding then. 🙂 :cool:

Im sorry you found a church earlier that was more concerned with appeasement than truth.

You mention it was all about personal beliefs and preferences. were they sacrificing truth for those? Is that where you get your thoughts of tough love?

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I wasn’t saying that Protestants are bad and I apologize if my statement came off that way. I was referring to Protestantism. If Satan caused the split, then the will of God would be to reunite with the Church He sent His Son to found. That was my main point there.

One of the priests at my parish is a real, well…not very Catholic is the nicest way I can say it. Preaches the feel-good stuff, occasionally mocks certain truths… The associate pastor, my confessor/spiritual director, was harassed by him (the head pastor) for speaking the truth. He was very firm, but also incredibly kind, which is what made him an excellent priest. Anyway, he (“my Fr.”) put in for a transfer due to the harassment and is now away from this parish. If I sound too harsh at times, it’s only because I’m constantly around those who are always “nice” (the kind of nice that Jesus wasn’t) no matter the cost.

Hope I cleared things up a bit, sorry for the confusion.🙂
 
latinmass

no problems all is good. Im sorry youre having trouble with the priest. even my friend who is catholic has one she likes better. I guess personality does come through in things. Its funny her other guy isnt like your but indifferent which is not so great.

Well, Im sure God will straighten things up. It is hard to be tough but still loving, I totally get you now. I always think of that old song the Gambler by Kenny Rogers. “You have to know when to hold em and when to fold em, walk away or run” Maybe not so reverent but it comes to my mind in those situations 🤷

As for the split, I didnt grow up in churches, I wasnt even sure what a protestant was, something to do with religion, 🤷 since here Ive figured it out.

But youre right if satan did cause the split then God will fix it. But then again there was problems as much as I can figure at that time and those problems were addressed and repaired.

So maybe the initial split wasnt satan but God getting people to talk, but because of the problems, satan was able to sow seeds of discontentent. Then because the problems took awhile to fix (Im guessing there) that discontent started and grew.

So that even when the initial problems were fixed. Things didnt go back to what they were. I imagine satan was in there like a dirty shirt thinking he had a good roll going.

If it took awhile for change then once things got set up in other churches people got used to the “new” way and didnt want to go back.

And everyones been bent out of shape since then. 😦 Now, its so long ago someone like me really doesnt know much. What Ive said is based on what Ive heard people say about it.

All I can say is we are to love our neighbour as ourselves and in that is the answer. Who knows maybe the only time we will reconcille is when Jesus returns?

My bro-in-law says if we all unite now then it will be a false church spoken about in rev. So if people feel that way then they will be terrified to reunite. So that would toss out alot of protestants wanting to join the catholic church as you hope, for that fear.

The catholic church keeps saying come home, but to alot of people it simply doesnt mean anything. They are home, its all they have known, its really a call to move to another home.

And as far as I can see with people they only go to another church home if they dont like their current one.

So, I dont know but the only practical way to unite at this point is to understand each other and be one in Christ, even if not in form of service to Him.

Im NOT saying this is good, just the way it seems. 🤷

Although I do know if God wants a change, He will sort us out, of that I have no doubt.

🙂 any of this make sense??
 
OK…this post is waaaaay to long for me to read every page. So if this has been covered already please forgive me. As for the topic I will have to say, most Satanists do not believe in a literal Satan, although some do. Anton LeVey was more of a showman. Although his daughter Zena was much more serious. Ex Lt. Col. Michael Aquino was once part of the church of Satan, he was also very serious and broke away to form his Temple of Set. In 1983, while traveling in Germany on “official NATO business,” Aquino performed a “working” at the Wewelsburg Castle, the same Castle Hitler and Himmler used for their occult practices.

The nast ones are Luciiferian’s, some of which make Satanists look like choir boys,. they actually do worship and believe in a real Lucifer. Some even quote from the Bible, Lucifer, the light bearer, the morning star. They believe he is the good one that brings mankind knowledge, that God is the bad one. And most are not going to shake your hand and say…“Hello, my name is Susy and I am a Luciferian”. I was married to a Luciferian, what they would call a bloodliner, his roots went back hundreds of years to Germany. I was not aware of this when I met him. They tend to keep these things a secret. They do hold rituals, and not just on Halloween, there are several a month, depending on the month and brand of Luciferian as well, and unlike church you do not have the option to stay home. You are expected to go to a coven meeting. They take it very seriously. Some even pray against churches. And they are not afraid of churches either. Weak ones they do not worry about, strong ones they will actually try to weaken.

There is a saying…keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Some actually attend churches, think of an infiltrator, I knew a few like that. The may get your kids to go to a party where there will be sex and drugs, try to seduce church board members, maybe befriend a janitor, get a key to the church, go in one night and hide a few symbols, etc…The only thing they detest is the Blood and power of Christ, A new age God/Jesus has no not affect them.
 
Hey Auriel

Praise God you are no longer with that guy! Hope he doesnt bother you now youre not there?!

as for the thread is long and a bit sorta off but really on topic I think. Besides conversation can wander sometimes 🤷

Thats interesting what you say about them going to a regular church. I have a friend who was a wiccan, havent seen her as Ive moved. At first we clashed like crazy it was a work. Our boss made us go for “coffee” and figure it out. We ended up talking about our beliefs, and agreed to be friends.

Her boyfriend was she called him a warlock. Anyway she hosted a party lite candle party (selling candles etc for the guys out there, kinda like tupperware) But she invited her fellow wiccans and me. Couple of my friends said I shouldnt go but I couldnt let my new friend down.

Have to say the two of us certainly rose to the occasion, she accepted me openly but the others were not impressed at first. I dont even think they hoped to gain ground with me, they didnt want me there. I know they felt persucated. At the end of the night, things had relaxed. At least they knew God wasnt all bad.

I say that because from the moment she had stepped into the office she was at odds with me, before I even really spoke to her. When we spoke she kept saying I was condeming her, I told her that God actually loved her. Her friends were of the same opionion but I couldnt tell them just show them.

So who knows what happened, I will know one day. Not as dramatic as your experience but its good to see Gods faithfulness.
 
Auriel said:
OK…this post is waaaaay to long for me to read every page. So if this has been covered already please forgive me. As for the topic I will have to say, most Satanists do not believe in a literal Satan, although some do. Anton LeVey was more of a showman. Although his daughter Zena was much more serious. Ex Lt. Col. Michael Aquino was once part of the church of Satan, he was also very serious and broke away to form his Temple of Set. In 1983, while traveling in Germany on “official NATO business,” Aquino performed a “working” at the Wewelsburg Castle, the same Castle Hitler and Himmler used for their occult practices.

The nast ones are Luciiferian’s, some of which make Satanists look like choir boys,. they actually do worship and believe in a real Lucifer. Some even quote from the Bible, Lucifer, the light bearer, the morning star. They believe he is the good one that brings mankind knowledge, that God is the bad one. And most are not going to shake your hand and say…“Hello, my name is Susy and I am a Luciferian”. I was married to a Luciferian, what they would call a bloodliner, his roots went back hundreds of years to Germany. I was not aware of this when I met him. They tend to keep these things a secret. They do hold rituals, and not just on Halloween, there are several a month, depending on the month and brand of Luciferian as well, and unlike church you do not have the option to stay home. You are expected to go to a coven meeting. They take it very seriously. Some even pray against churches. And they are not afraid of churches either. Weak ones they do not worry about, strong ones they will actually try to weaken.

There is a saying…keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Some actually attend churches, think of an infiltrator, I knew a few like that. The may get your kids to go to a party where there will be sex and drugs, try to seduce church board members, maybe befriend a janitor, get a key to the church, go in one night and hide a few symbols, etc…The only thing they detest is the Blood and power of Christ, A new age God/Jesus has no not affect them.
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Scary stuff! Did your ex participate in black masses? Was there any aversion to symbols like the cross or sacramentals like holy water? (or maybe this is just vampires? 😉 )

Any demonic activity follow him or his group around? I’m reading a thread which includes someone who has been “oppressed” by demons… :eek:
 
Delraek said:
Scary stuff! Did your ex participate in black masses? Was there any aversion to symbols like the cross or sacramentals like holy water? (or maybe this is just vampires? 😉 )

Any demonic activity follow him or his group around? I’m reading a thread which includes someone who has been “oppressed” by demons… :eek:
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As for the first part…Nope, LOL. Thats more a vampire thing! In fact some of the old line Luciferians will use such objects and subject their children to the use of these items in a twisted manner. Some call it belief inoculation, that way their kid will associate christian things with bad things and never call out to God…

As for the second part, Yes. IN fact that is exactly what they want. They want demonic power, some actually call them power demons. The rituals are designed that way, to gain more power. I will not go into that part, it is not pretty. I will say this, they believe fear and pain builds more power. .

He also participated in rituals, one of the reasons I left. I caught him when I came home early one time. I discovered that an older man I had met had been training my ex since he was in his teens. I knew this man was widowed, but I did not know exactly what happened at first. She was very young, and died of a heart attack during a ritual. She was literally scared to death.

I knew something was terribly wrong because I could feel a heavy thick darkness around. It is hard to describe. And I see things anyway, was born that way. When I discovered what he had kept hidden I left him, but not before he told me what it was like. They wanted me to be a part of it. Of course I had to decline. To give you an idea of how they view Christianity I will tell you a story he told me when I asked him if he was ever frightened and afraid of losing his soul.

He responded by telling me about the time they called up the powers. He said it was huge, muscular, and solid, with black eyes. I have actually seen some things around him, they do seem solid. I asked him what his reaction was, his exact words were this…“I looked into his eyes and I pitied him, Look what God did to them”. They believe that our Lord God is the evil one who kicked out Lucifer, and that one day Lucifer will win in a final battle. They believe that God is cruel and wanted to keep all knowledge for himself. And the angels, the fallen Watchers, were only punished for bringing the flame of knowledge to mankind. Sometimes they refer to it as the Black Flame.

We had a child together before all this came to light. I have custody. A relative of mine thought I had to be making some of this up it sounds so ludicrous. Until she overheard him telling my son, “The bible is wrong, it was not translated properly. The stories are twisted, Lucifer was the shining one”.

Be careful whom you date!
 
Auriel said:
Some even pray against churches. And they are not afraid of churches either. Weak ones they do not worry about, strong ones they will actually try to weaken.
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Wow, thanks for your heartfelt posts, Auriel.

Just curious, what churches are they afraid of or not afraid of? Why?

Do they try to weaken specific churches more than others? Why?
 
Fa-Chan-

Depends on what kind of Satanist you are thinking of. I know of a few types:

Reverse Christianity(the one you are taking about), LaVeyan Satanism, Theistic Satanism, and Yezidi(Arabic Devil-Worship).
If you are curious about these, Pm me, because I choose not to go into detail on these things here. But a lot comes from research, too.
 
Lone_wolf said:
Fa-Chan-

Depends on what kind of Satanist you are thinking of. I know of a few types:

Reverse Christianity(the one you are taking about), LaVeyan Satanism, Theistic Satanism, and Yezidi(Arabic Devil-Worship).
If you are curious about these, Pm me, because I choose not to go into detail on these things here. But a lot comes from research, too.
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I’ve encountered theistic Satanists and Luciferians. There are different types, yes. The ones I’ve encountered most are theistic Satanists who belong to cults. They practice rituals where they summon demons. I’ve spoken to the demons too many times to count. Rarely will they give me their names. But I know several of them.

I don’t fear these demons. They would like me to do so. They threaten murder, torture, you name it. Doesn’t bother me. I know Jesus Christ and call his name. I call upon Metatron, Michael, Raphael, Uriel and Gabriel to help. The demons leave.

I don’t need any more info that I don’t already have.

They fear Jesus. I serve Jesus. That’s all that matters.

Sorry this is short and sweet. More later.

Peace…

Fa Chan
 
Dolphin,

You’re more then welcome to PM me if you’d like. No sense in keeping this thread going for idol chatter. ;p
 
bengal_fan said:
i think the point is that if the enemies of God take the mass seriously (meaning they try to counteract what happens in the mass) and don’t take what protestants do seriously, do they think that the catholic church is more legitimate than the protestant. i would say we need to look and know our enemy. i think there is a valid point. the only thing that is forgotten is that there is a satanic “bible” and it is used in studying the revisionist history and prophecy of what will come.
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I am not answering for them, but “The Rock” the hand picked successor to Jesus Christ, the founder of the Catholic Church. When was the protestant church founded, and if you don’t mind me asking was their bible a gift to their founders or was it taken? I appalogise about being short. To not believe in the Sacraments, or baptism, or the purity of Mary is starting to truely offend me. I recently saw a Church that defiled the face of a moulded Mary statue, and it brought tears to my eyes
 
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