Saturday Evening Mass

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My priest told me it was okay to go to church on a Saturday evening instead of on a Sunday if I wish, so I went today (Saturday) for the first time I can remember.

I also saw this supporting this: “A person who assists at a Mass celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the feast day itself or in the evening of the preceding day satisfies the obligation of participating in the Mass” (CIC 1248 §1)

However, I have seen conflicting views on Catholic Answers on this issue. Is my priest correct in saying this?

Thanks.
 
Sat evening Mass does fulfill the Sunday obligation. For years now.
I’ve never seen anything contrary to this on CAF.
 
pianistclare said:
Sat evening Mass does fulfill the Sunday obligation. For years now.
I’ve never seen anything contrary to this on CAF.
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I’ve never seen it her either. However, that’s not to say it hasn’t been said. There does sometimes be a tendency for folks to chime in with less than correct information. 😉

Saturday evening fulfills your Sunday obligation.
 
pianistclare said:
Sat evening Mass does fulfill the Sunday obligation. For years now.
I’ve never seen anything contrary to this on CAF.
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1ke said:
I don’t understand where or how there could be an “issue” as this has been allowed for 51 years.

Why would you doubt your priest?
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DeniseNY said:
I’ve never seen it her either. However, that’s not to say it hasn’t been said. There does sometimes be a tendency for folks to chime in with less than correct information. 😉

Saturday evening fulfills your Sunday obligation.
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Yes. All of these.
 
Rob_Christopher said:
My priest told me it was okay to go to church on a Saturday evening instead of on a Sunday if I wish, so I went today (Saturday) for the first time I can remember.

I also saw this supporting this: “A person who assists at a Mass celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the feast day itself or in the evening of the preceding day satisfies the obligation of participating in the Mass” (CIC 1248 §1)

However, I have seen conflicting views on Catholic Answers on this issue. Is my priest correct in saying this?

Thanks.
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Just hypothetically, if some random person on this message board told you that your priest was incorrect, would you believe them? And if so, would you then take this information to your priest as evidence that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about?
 
Rob_Christopher said:
My priest told me it was okay to go to church on a Saturday evening instead of on a Sunday if I wish, so I went today (Saturday) for the first time I can remember.

I also saw this supporting this: “A person who assists at a Mass celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the feast day itself or in the evening of the preceding day satisfies the obligation of participating in the Mass” (CIC 1248 §1)

However, I have seen conflicting views on Catholic Answers on this issue. Is my priest correct in saying this?

Thanks.
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Yes he is correct. If he said to you what was in union with what Canon Law said, then you don’t have to doubt at all, even if some person on these forums was mistaken.

I’m assuming this person from Catholic Answers was on the forums and not working for Catholic Answers itself?
 
DeniseNY said:
I’ve never seen it her either. However, that’s not to say it hasn’t been said. There does sometimes be a tendency for folks to chime in with less than correct information. 😉

Saturday evening fulfills your Sunday obligation.
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Especially on the “It’s a sin!” thread
 
Rob_Christopher said:
My priest told me it was okay to go to church on a Saturday evening instead of on a Sunday if I wish, so I went today (Saturday) for the first time I can remember.

I also saw this supporting this: “A person who assists at a Mass celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the feast day itself or in the evening of the preceding day satisfies the obligation of participating in the Mass” (CIC 1248 §1)

However, I have seen conflicting views on Catholic Answers on this issue. Is my priest correct in saying this?

Thanks.
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I’ve never seen conflicting views on this. The church allows for it and has for decades…
 
Rob_Christopher said:
… I have seen conflicting views on Catholic Answers on this issue.
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There are those who think that the Saturday evening Mass shouldn’t be attended just to free up Sunday for worldly things.

Is that what you’re referring to when you mention conflicting views?
 
1neophyte said:
Just hypothetically, if some random person on this message board told you that your priest was incorrect, would you believe them? And if so, would you then take this information to your priest as evidence that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about?
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Here, Here…about 80% of what is posted, even here on CAF, is more opinion that fact.
 
LiamQ said:
There are those who think that the Saturday evening Mass shouldn’t be attended just to free up Sunday for worldly things.

Is that what you’re referring to when you mention conflicting views?
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lol… that has always been on my mind actually. I have heard it far too often I would never ever have done it, ie never gone to Saturday mass as if it were Sunday. Sunday without church.even on the internet, is like meat with no salt… But I do know it is allowed…
 
Rosebud77 said:
lol… that has always been on my mind actually. I have heard it far too often I would never ever have done it, ie never gone to Saturday mass as if it were Sunday. Sunday without church.even on the internet, is like meat with no salt… But I do know it is allowed…
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Just because it’s one’s opinion that this is not proper, you should not tell people who come with a legitimate question something that makes them question what has been permitted in the church for decades.
It’s fine.
 
The reason it’s OK, is that, like the Jewish calendar, the Catholic calendar starts the day at sundown on the day before.

Shabbat starts in Friday evening, and Sunday begins on Saturday evening.

Jesus’ body had to be dealt with before evening on Friday because of not only Shabbat, but Passover would begin at sundown. The women didn’t come back to anoint the body until Shabbat was over. They waited until the sun came up on Sunday morning. (No flashlights back then…)
 
Deltadeliquent said:
The reason it’s OK, is that, like the Jewish calendar, the Catholic calendar starts the day at sundown on the day before.

Shabbat starts in Friday evening, and Sunday begins on Saturday evening.

Jesus’ body had to be dealt with before evening on Friday because of not only Shabbat, but Passover would begin at sundown. The women didn’t come back to anoint the body until Shabbat was over. They waited until the sun came up on Sunday morning. (No flashlights back then…)
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While that’s a nice parallel, I don’t think that’s the reason it’s ok.
For one it wasn’t common practice for a long time and another thing depending on what time of year and location , sundown can be quite a ways away from the actual sat. Evening mass. In some places it could even be on Sunday!

The reason it’s ok is because the Church says it is.

Also, I have never heard of the Catholic calandar starting at sundown the day before… Ever.
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
While that’s a nice parallel, I don’t think that’s the reason it’s ok.
For one it wasn’t common practice for a long time and another thing depending on what time of year and location , sundown can be quite a ways away from the actual sat. Evening mass. In some places it could even be on Sunday!

The reason it’s ok is because the Church says it is.

Also, I have never heard of the Catholic calandar starting at sundown the day before… Ever.
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Saturday mass is not Sunday mass; it has to use the Sunday liturgy for it to count.

Saturday sunset mass in question has to be done after sundown, meaning it’s the start of Sunday. In our local time, it is about 6 o’clock in the evening.

I thought that’s the reason why the Saturday sunset mass counts as Sunday mass but it is interesting you’re saying that’s not the reason. Thanks for the information then.
 
From Wikipedia:

"With regard to the Roman Rite, it states that “Advent begins with First Vespers (Evening Prayer I) of the Sunday that falls on or closest to 30 November and it ends before First Vespers (Evening Prayer I) of Christmas”.

First Sunday of advent begins the liturgical year. Advent begins on the Saturday evening before. Thus, the calendar begins, and thusly every other time period in that calendar, takes its official beginning from the day before.

As to the question of when is sunset… I would think that the world wide Church at some point decided to do away with astronomical observations and time tables and regularised the beginning to the “evening” before. But then again there is a Jesuit pope these days. Maybe they’ve gone back to the observatory.

I’ve heard from several sources the Jewish explanation. But what do I know?
 
Reuben_J said:
Saturday mass is not Sunday mass; it has to use the Sunday liturgy for it to count.

Saturday sunset mass in question has to be done after sundown, meaning it’s the start of Sunday. In our local time, it is about 6 o’clock in the evening.

I thought that’s the reason why the Saturday sunset mass counts as Sunday mass but it is interesting you’re saying that’s not the reason. Thanks for the information then.
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Where do you get that Sunday readings have to be used?

Canon 1248 does not specify this. Only that it is in a Catholic rite (any Catholic rite) on the day or the Preceding day’s evening.

Which also puts to rest the idea the preceding day’s sundown being the start of the next day or the words preceding day would not be used.

Ugh. So confusing…
It’s easier to just keep the Lord’s day a day for obligatory Mass. Unless it can’t be achieved. However I have read and I can dig it up somewhere that if one cannot attend a Sunday liturgy the Church does not extend the obligation to Saturday evening. Meaning one does not HAVE to go to Mass on Saturday evening if one cannot go on Sunday.

What a mess the human condition makes! 😉
 
Deltadeliquent said:
From Wikipedia:

"With regard to the Roman Rite, it states that “Advent begins with First Vespers (Evening Prayer I) of the Sunday that falls on or closest to 30 November and it ends before First Vespers (Evening Prayer I) of Christmas”.

First Sunday of advent begins the liturgical year. Advent begins on the Saturday evening before. Thus, the calendar begins, and thusly every other time period in that calendar, takes its official beginning from the day before.

As to the question of when is sunset… I would think that the world wide Church at some point decided to do away with astronomical observations and time tables and regularised the beginning to the “evening” before. But then again there is a Jesuit pope these days. Maybe they’ve gone back to the observatory.

I’ve heard from several sources the Jewish explanation. But what do I know?
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From good old father z…

wdtprs.com/blog/2015/12/ask-father-sunday-obligation-and-saturday-vigil-masses-revisited/
 
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