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The local Carmelite convent has Mass at 7:30 AM on Saturdays. Would this be an anticipation Mass or would it be a different liturgy? They do not have a public Mass on Sunday.
 
victrolatim said:
The local Carmelite convent has Mass at 7:30 AM on Saturdays. Would this be an anticipation Mass or would it be a different liturgy? They do not have a public Mass on Sunday.
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The earliest time I have seen in the USA for an anticipated Mass of Sunday, on Saturday, is 2:30PM. The canon law allows to fulfill the Sunday Mass obligation for a solemnity, in the evening of the prior day.
 
It’s probably going to be the Mass for Saturday, not Sunday since it isn’t late enough to count as a vigil Mass.
 
Sounds like a regular Saturday Mass, rather than an anticipatory one.

You’re lucky— I’d love to do a first-Saturday devotion, but I can’t find a true Saturday Mass in my area within a two-hour radius. 🙂
 
I believe the cut off is 4:15pm or 5:15pm; between the two I am not certain.
 
robertmidwest said:
Isn’t noon the cut off time?
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The Canon Law: Letter & Spirit, Canon Law Society of Great Britain and Ireland, by Gerard Sheehy and Francis G. Morrisey, et. al., 1995, 702:
What is ‘the evening of the previous day’? Despite the view of some commentators that this should be interpreted as beginning only at 1400 hours (2 pm) on that day, it is the firm view of this commentary that the evening of the previous day begins at midday (12 noon) on that day itself. In some dioceses there is a local regulation to the effect that the so-called vigil or anticipated Mass may not be celebrated before, say, 5 pm or 6 pm: this is normally for pastoral reasons, e.g. to facilitate weddings or funerals in the parish and other churches. Those regulations do not in any way concern the time prescribed for fulfilling the obligation to assist at Mass: thus, e.g., if . . . a person were to attend a nuptial Mass in the early afternoon on a Saturday, that person would thereby have fulfilled the obligation.
For example of early times in USA, there are 2:30PM Saturday Masses published as fulfilling the Sunday Mass obligation at these two churches:
  • Guardian Angels Cathedral in Las Vegas, NV
  • Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception in Kansas City, MO
 
midori said:
Sounds like a regular Saturday Mass, rather than an anticipatory one.

You’re lucky— I’d love to do a first-Saturday devotion, but I can’t find a true Saturday Mass in my area within a two-hour radius. 🙂
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I believe the Vespere (evening or late afternoon) Mass can be used for both first-Saturday devotion and fulfillment of the Lord’s Day obligation. But you’re right, regular Saturday Masses are becoming more and more scarce.
 
victrolatim said:
The local Carmelite convent has Mass at 7:30 AM on Saturdays. Would this be an anticipation Mass or would it be a different liturgy? They do not have a public Mass on Sunday.
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No, 7:30am Saturday is not a vigil Mass for Sunday.
 
victrolatim said:
The local Carmelite convent has Mass at 7:30 AM on Saturdays. Would this be an anticipation Mass or would it be a different liturgy? They do not have a public Mass on Sunday.
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It should be the Mass of Saturday morning (whatever day that happens to be in the calendar on any particular Saturday). The absence of a Mass which is open to the public on Sunday morning doesn’t change what may be done on Saturday morning.
 
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