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Bonnie
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I’ll stop saving for retirement when I’m elected pope!
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Lov3sJesus
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If you will reread Dubays book again and focus on what the saints did that he mentions in chapter 7 and 8 maybe that will give you some ideas 
God bless you on your journey!
God bless you on your journey!
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Tarpeian_Rock
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This has to rank as one of the most unfounded and irresponsible comments I’ve ever seen here. So you really think retirement is morally wrong? Know many employers who want to keep you on in your 70’s and 80’s? And if your employer has a mandatory retirement age, then someone 65 or 70+ needs to look for a new job? And the morality of expecting others to take care of you when they have responsibilities for their own families?
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TravisandJill
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Except married people are not called to practice Franciscan Spirituality, or even an actual vow of poverty for that matter. And all those you mentioned were celebrate religious.
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Monte_RCMS
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If we all rely on someone else, then who will be the someone else?
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Bonnie
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Quite a few of the saints who lived a life of poverty depended on wealthy patrons to fund their ministries. St. Paul was an exception - he supported himself as he didn’t want to be dependent on others.
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Lov3sJesus
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May I respectfully a few questions, assuming you don’t have children, and a job, how many saints lived on alms? Is it wrong to accept them? Who says this is unresponible? What did the Holy Apostles do? Not that the Lord requires this kind of life, I believe it’s wrong to quit working when you still can. Also you cannot love God and mammon as the Good Lord said. You either Love one or the other, have one or the other.
Peace & Joy
Peace & Joy
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Monte_RCMS
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These are saintly people.
Who gave them the money to live on and with which to do their work?
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Monte_RCMS
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LOVING money has nothing to do with saving money.
Saving money has nothing to do with LOVING money.
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Lov3sJesus
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I want to apologize to the author of this thread (and or others) who I have erroneously mislead, although it was completely unintentional. I’m truly very sorry. I want to say that saving money is not a sin, but having superfificities and excessive wealth–or hoarding is. Therefore saving for retirement is a legitiment need. And we are to provide for our needs and care for ourselves, and also be generous to the poor.
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Tomdstone
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I can see where this question can be easily misunderstood.
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BornInMarch
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Look up Joseph (son of Jacob and Rachel); he basically uses money saving to prevent mass-starvation in his time.
The story is that Joseph’s brothers sold him into slavery and told his father he was dead because he was Jacob’s favorite son.
But by God’s Grace, Joseph is able to rise to the position of Vizier of Egypt. The Pharoah has a dream that Egypt will have seven years of abundance followed by seven years of famine, so during the abundance period Joseph arranges for ALL of the harvested grain to be stored in large warehouses. When the seven year famine came, he used the stored grain to feed the people of Egypt and of the surrounding kingdoms.
In other words, God’s Prophet Joseph saved Egypt with astute finances.
The story is that Joseph’s brothers sold him into slavery and told his father he was dead because he was Jacob’s favorite son.
But by God’s Grace, Joseph is able to rise to the position of Vizier of Egypt. The Pharoah has a dream that Egypt will have seven years of abundance followed by seven years of famine, so during the abundance period Joseph arranges for ALL of the harvested grain to be stored in large warehouses. When the seven year famine came, he used the stored grain to feed the people of Egypt and of the surrounding kingdoms.
In other words, God’s Prophet Joseph saved Egypt with astute finances.
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