saw something new in the Mass today

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I’d like to share my opinion on this without instigating anything. I’m no longer practicing, I may come back soon, but I still have a view on this. People need to stop over-reacting. Think of it as the Last Supper. I doubt Jesus was really uptight and was anti-humor that night nor were his apostles, they of course were reverent but still had a sense of humor. If a priest giggles, I dont see how its rude at all. God gave us a sense of humor for a reason, he has one, so I dont think its wrong to merely giggle. Communion is a happy ritual, of course reverence is needed but joy is needed as well. And what is joy without humor?
Receiving the Eucharist is no laughing matter.We are required to show humility and reverence beforeOur Lord.There is a time and place for everything.Laughing and joking while ministering and receiving the Body,blood,soul and divinity of Jesus Christ is not the time.
 
Receiving the Eucharist is no laughing matter.We are required to show humility and reverence beforeOur Lord.There is a time and place for everything.Laughing and joking while ministering and receiving the Body,blood,soul and divinity of Jesus Christ is not the time.
And I’m sure that 99.99% of the time this priest is exceedingly reverent.

Perhaps we should all pray for his intentions in our prayers this evening.
 
I of course think receiving the Eucharist is serious, I dont think giggling makes it irreverent. I think it’d be irreverent depending on what he’s giggling about.
 
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While I hope this isn’t the case with the OP, I think some people just go around looking for something to be offended by and come onto CAF to complain about it. It’s not like it’s a weekly occurrence or happens with every Mass. It appears to have been an isolated event.
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Some also come here to critique and prove that they are "more catholic" than the rest of us as though they have some apostolic authority given to them by the Vatican.
I was bombarded by critique after simply starting a thread asking if your church parish offered Sunday School. 🤷
Let’s give folks the benefit of the doubt. No one is perfect ***(even Priests). ***We’re all working for the same goal…Getting to Heaven. :getholy:
***I’m praying for you all as I hope that you are praying for me. ***
 
Hey, I am a teenaged altar server, and things like that happen all of the time on the altar.It is almost always just a little inside joke that the priest and servers share and most of the time has something to do with the Mass. Also priests have been known to crack a joke or two to a server that made a mistake and is on the brink of tears as to prevent a meltdown on the altar
 
My family went to visit a nearby parish for Mass today because we had no RCIA or psr scheduled given the holiday. We sometimes do that, visit other churches when we don’t have classes scheduled at ours.

I’m hoping for some feedback regarding something that happened this morning because we don’t exactly know what to make of it.

As Father was taking a consecrated host to each altar server and eucharistic minister standing at the altar he stopped at one teenaged altar server and before handing him the very body of Jesus Christ, said something to the server which made them both laugh. Father then twisted around to indicate something regarding his hip, which the server looked down at, and laughed again, before Father presented him a Host and placed it in his hand.

For all the world it looked like Father and altar server shared in a private joke which caused them both to laugh while Father was passing out the Sacred Hosts to the altar servers and eucharistic ministers lined around the altar.

I have never seen this before and was shocked and dismayed at what i perceived to be a lack of reverence.

What should i think about what i saw? Do these things happen? Should i have been bothered?

thanks
Hi. I am not surprised you haven’t seen that before and I can understand your shock and dismay.

It is not a normal occurrence as it is not part of the rubric of the mass. Having said that, what the priest did was acceptable as long as it was done not out of disrespect and irreverence of the mass.

The most ideal situation would be if the celebration of the Eucharist would function smoothly clockwork -like. In reality this does not always happen. There would always be someone who would bungle their line at sometime somewhere during the mass.

I have been altar server as a boy and serve the liturgy in some capacity like being a lector. These are services that we do for the mass. We need to practice and being briefed on what to do during the mass and we will do it accordingly. It is always a joy in serving. However, sometimes it can be very legalistic and critical on us and when that happens, serving would become a pressure. That is alright in itself but when you are under pressure not to make any mistake, you would not be able to serve well. Like reading for example - instead of being yourself, you are conscious that if you make a mistake there would be somebody in the congregation who would make nasty remark and complain to the Bishop or the rector of the parish.

Thus very often you would want to serve with an understanding priest or bishop; one who would not scold you but correct you with love or make lightly the matter. It would be great encouragement for us. Contrary to what many people would think, we know we make mistake when there is one.

As an adult now, I tend to understand those who serve during the mass. Even though the liturgy should be taken with all seriousness and reverence, there is no harm when necessary that the priest would make small talk and instruction to his team who are serving the mass. Even when we pray, if necessary there is no harm for example, to turn to a family member and ask what’s the name of that person is she wants to pray for.

So, please do not be alarmed. The best thing for us to do would be to encourage them like saying, “it’s a good homily” or some small talk that takes away the scolding and the disapproval.

God bless.
 
Hey, I am a teenaged altar server, and things like that happen all of the time on the altar.It is almost always just a little inside joke that the priest and servers share and most of the time has something to do with the Mass. Also priests have been known to crack a joke or two to a server that made a mistake and is on the brink of tears as to prevent a meltdown on the altar
Thank you - the voice of reason!
 
Please don’t stay away from the forums. You can learn a lot here…some responses will be helpful and some will not. Keep asking questions. That is how we learn. Take the good and move on. There are a lot of wonderful people on this forum who are willing to answer questions, correct us when we are wrong and will pray for us. A number of them have responded to your message. Please remember, we are all human. When reading a post we have no idea what is in the person’s heart. I can read some responses in a number of different ways. I always try to give the poster the benefit of the doubt if it’s iffy as to whether they are being sarcastic or not.

God Bless you on your journey.
Being you are in RCIA, I don’t think you any asking anything out of place. In fact I think it shows how much you are looking forward to being a good, sincere & faithful Catholic.
So I agree with the post above and several others. PLEASE DON’T LEAVE!!!👍:hug1:
 
I think we should all focus on the plank in our own eye rather than the speck in someone elses.

Really? No wonder we have a priest shortage, if every little thing a priest does is disected and talked about and posted about and made a big deal of… who would want to be a priest?

The fact is, as you said, you don’t know what it was about. So you should simply, and with charity, assume it is none of your business and not relevant to you.
Making light of the moment of Holy Communion is a “little thing” to you ?

Kyrie eleison

:cool:
 
Your response was correct. This should never happen, inappropriate for sure. Don’t be upset by the responses of some here. This is an open forum and there is no screening. We don’t even know if these people are who they say they are. For all we know they are " sleepers " planted by the enemy. Always beware. This happens in ordinary conversations, face to face, too. You can never be absolutely sure you are not being confronted by the " enemy " or even an angel. 👍
Right, lol. And the devil can quote scripture.

So, because a Priest smiled/giggled, he is to be condemned? Should the Pope defrock him? Please try not to see evil where it does not exist. We should be fighting the “demons” within us rather than looking to find fault elsewhere.

A Blessed Christmas to you and all on CAF.
 
Receiving the Eucharist is no laughing matter.We are required to show humility and reverence beforeOur Lord.There is a time and place for everything.Laughing and joking while ministering and receiving the Body,blood,soul and divinity of Jesus Christ is not the time.
I don’t think it is laughing like a clown does. The giggle is probably a guffaw over a mistake or a slip during the ritual. What do we expect them to to? Shoot the culprit on the spot or call for a tribunal? Things like that happens all the time. The only thing is to minimise its occurrence. If anyone been an altar server or part of the liturgy, we would just laugh it off after the dismissal in the sacristy while the culprit would wish that he is never been born. We can only be charitable in this as charity should be applied at all times even in the celebrating of the Eucharist. What is important is that there is no purposeful irreverence or belittle the Eucharist.
 
Hey, I am a teenaged altar server, and things like that happen all of the time on the altar.It is almost always just a little inside joke that the priest and servers share and most of the time has something to do with the Mass. Also priests have been known to crack a joke or two to a server that made a mistake and is on the brink of tears as to prevent a meltdown on the altar
We have adult altar servers at morning mass. A fairly new female altar server dropped the cruet of wine during mass and it spilled. Father had to interrupt the offertory, wipe the floor, and obtain more wine from the sacristy. She was devastated and in tears, a bundle of nerves for the rest of the liturgy. After mass, she was ready to quit serving altogether. I am certain a bit of humor to settle her would not have been out of line. Things happen … we’re human!

Perhaps the OP did not observe anything amiss that happened earlier, whether in the sacristy or on the altar, which may have occasioned the priest’s comment. I tend to think it was an encouragement to the server who may have made a mistake. He would have no way of knowing whether it was a brand new server, either, since he said it was a “nearby parish” and not his customary one. Remember, he’s still in RCIA and not familiar yet with things that sometimes happen by accident.
 
I think we should all focus on the plank in our own eye rather than the speck in someone elses.

Really? No wonder we have a priest shortage, if every little thing a priest does is disected and talked about and posted about and made a big deal of… who would want to be a priest?

The fact is, as you said, you don’t know what it was about. So you should simply, and with charity, assume it is none of your business and not relevant to you.
:rolleyes:
 
Hey, I am a teenaged altar server, and things like that happen all of the time on the altar.It is almost always just a little inside joke that the priest and servers share and most of the time has something to do with the Mass. Also priests have been known to crack a joke or two to a server that made a mistake and is on the brink of tears as to prevent a meltdown on the altar
and as i read this i was laughing aloud to the times i was an Alter boy.for 7 years i was one,i can say that it was this and the priest that had a massive effect on my faith,forever in my life.
like you say,the comradery in the back of church with then 15 Alter boys per mass.along with the priest.was huge.we were people/kids serving God. the priest knew this,he never once come down like a tonne of bricks on us .we made him laugh,smile.but only through innocence.

i would say the best times of my life was serving on the Alter as a kid…the other Alter boys would tell the novices to ring the bell,but at the wrong time some times…the priest knew this and he never once tolled anybody off for it.

cassocks and cotters were flying around, wrestling and fighting in the back of church before mass and after, but the start and during mass it was serious.but we sometimes did laugh on something what had just happened in mass.but held it tightly within our selves.

going to the O P.
now ive seen a post on here saying did you ask the priest why he was laughing,if you have not,then to me you might be doing something worse than what you think the priest was doing…
  1. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
think about it…
 
They laughed a bit.

Over something that no one knows exactly.

During one Mass.

Just one Mass, with no context, people have already judged this priest and called him into question.

This priest, for all we know, spends his days with the sick, the elderly, the widowed, the orphaned, the homeless. The priest may offer the EF from time to time. The priest may go to pro-life rallies and says homilies that defend true marriage.

But people are too busy looking at the fact that he shared a small laugh with an altar server.

Smiles or outward signs of joy during Mass? Quick, call the piety police!
 
Making light of the moment of Holy Communion is a “little thing” to you ?

Kyrie eleison

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I don’t believe the priest, or many of the posters on this thread make light of the moment of communion.

You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

doormouse 73 has a point: the 9th commandment is, “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.”
 
I don’t believe the priest, or many of the posters on this thread make light of the moment of communion.

You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

doormouse 73 has a point: the 9th commandment is, “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.”
I don’t see anyone out to condemn the priest. I think the fundamental question here is “was this a liturgical abuse?”. The objective answer is yes. The severity of liturgical abuses are somewhat subjective. What person A considers to be a minor issue may be a bigger issue for person B. Because of this subjectivity liturgical abuses should be judged objectively. The problem with “small” abuses is that they can gradually become accepted as the norm by the laity, which opens the door for more serious abuses (possibly). Where is the line of what is and is not acceptable? Should the Bishop be called in here? No, probably not, but it’s still improper. Also, I don’t know that it’s overly charitable to imply that others are breaking commandments while at the same time condemning them for allegedly being judgemental.

mda
 
Liturgical abuse is altering or changing the liturgy, not following the rubrics, ie., not doing the red and saying the black.

Objectively, this was a human moment between two people, and was probably the pastorally correct thing to do at that moment.

To imply, or state there was any abuse is wrong.

Imagine this was cardiac surgery: Which is objectively wrong here?
either, the nursing team and surgeons fail to follow the policies and procedures, but remain quiet and respectful; or, the nursing team and surgeons follow all policies and procedures, yet at a tense moment a laugh is shared.
 
But people are too busy looking at the fact that he shared a small laugh with an altar server.
I don’t think that’s in the rubrics. It’s the timing, not the brief chuckle. I was always led to believe the moment of Holy Communion was a special moment we should take seriously.
 
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