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anp1215
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At Mass tonight, we did not recite the Creed. Why not?
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MarkThompson
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What did your priest say when you asked him?
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TheRealJuliane
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we sure did, can’t imagine why you wouldn’t have. It was a Mass like any other.
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kmuestwin
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The Creed is only required on Sunday masses and Solemnities. Since today is a holy day of obligation, I think you should have said it. It might have just been a mistake.
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anp1215
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Seeing as I did not see him after Mass, how could I have asked him?
If I had asked him, I would not be asking anyone here. I thought maybe someone here knew of a reason why it wouldn’t be said.
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MarkThompson
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I’m sorry for reading too much into your question, amp1215. A lot of times people already know what the priest should have done, and they post here asking for almost a psychological evaluation of why their priest didn’t do as he should have. My apologies for taking your question as asking more than just, hey, wasn’t the Creed supposed to be said today? The answer is yes (as it was at my church), but nobody can answer why your priest omitted it.
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anp1215
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It’s ok. I probably should have worded it more like that. I didn’t mean to sound like I was asking for an evaluation of why it wasn’t said. I am new to this (candidate) so I didn’t know if maybe there was a reason. Maybe if I do see my priest around, I will ask him why he didn’t say it.I’m sorry for reading too much into your question, amp1215. A lot of times people already know what the priest should have done, and they post here asking for almost a psychological evaluation of why their priest didn’t do as he should have. My apologies for taking your question as asking more than just, hey, wasn’t the Creed supposed to be said today? The answer is yes (as it was at my church), but nobody can answer why your priest omitted it.
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Apryl
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Well, we didn’t say it at my church.My apologies for taking your question as asking more than just, hey, wasn’t the Creed supposed to be said today? The answer is yes (as it was at my church), but nobody can answer why your priest omitted it.
I just chalked it up to it NOT being a Sunday OR a Solemnity… but a Day of Obligation.
Are you saying that as a Day of Obligation, that makes it a Solemnity? I thought it was the FEAST of the Immaculate Conception.
I haven’t done a lot of Daily Masses in my life, so when I get there, and there is no Creed, I sort of freak out, only to be quieted with the awareness that the Creed is typically not done at Daily Masses.
Why was it done at your church, if it’s not a Sunday, nor a Solemnity?
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anp1215
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It is a solemnity.Well, we didn’t say it at my church.
I just chalked it up to it NOT being a Sunday OR a Solemnity… but a Day of Obligation.
Are you saying that as a Day of Obligation, that makes it a Solemnity? I thought it was the FEAST of the Immaculate Conception.
I haven’t done a lot of Daily Masses in my life, so when I get there, and there is no Creed, I sort of freak out, only to be quieted with the awareness that the Creed is typically not done at Daily Masses.
Why was it done at your church, if it’s not a Sunday, nor a Solemnity?
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MarkThompson
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Yeah, I saw that in your profile too late! For the future, though, yes, plenty of priests do omit stuff because it’s time-consuming or whatever. But when you’re looking at the book and it says one thing, and you see your priest do something else, possible alternative explanations include: (1) he forgot, (2) he just heard that his niece was hit by a car and he’s distracted, (3) he had marked the wrong pages or some other genuine mistake, (4) he needs to hurry and finish to go give Viaticum to a dying parishioner, (5) he doesn’t like the way it is in the books and has arrogantly decided to make up something on his own, (6) you’re wrong, what he’s doing is permitted by a different, later document you’re not aware of – etc. There’s really no charitable way to tell without asking, though that doesn’t seem to stop lots of people from speculating that, you know, if a priest seemed rushed it’s because he’s a bad priest who’s not very interested in Mass and wants to get it over with as soon as possible, rather than that he’s extremely tired because he was counseling an addict through most of the night, or in a hurry because he’s in charge of several parishes and has to drive 40 miles to say the next Mass.
If you feel so inclined and you see the priest this Sunday, do feel free to ask why there was no Creed today. And PS, welcome to the Church!
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stephraim
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Amen.
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Angelicus
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At our Mass, the priest said the Creed, but omitted the Gloria. The homily was more appropriate for the Annunciation rather than the Immaculate Conception.
The man is retired and in his 80’s. I am inclined to give him some slack.
The man is retired and in his 80’s. I am inclined to give him some slack.
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stormy99
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**It was done at our parish last night and the All School Mass today…it’s done at every mass at this Parish, no matter what…only once it wasn’t done and that was in Maine…heck it was even done in Alaska…Well, we didn’t say it at my church.
I just chalked it up to it NOT being a Sunday OR a Solemnity… but a Day of Obligation.
Are you saying that as a Day of Obligation, that makes it a Solemnity? I thought it was the FEAST of the Immaculate Conception.
I haven’t done a lot of Daily Masses in my life, so when I get there, and there is no Creed, I sort of freak out, only to be quieted with the awareness that the Creed is typically not done at Daily Masses.
Why was it done at your church, if it’s not a Sunday, nor a Solemnity?
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puzzleannie
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I have no idea. What is a Mass for Sunday? was there a baptism or other rite such as for RCIA which took its place? What did the pastor say when you asked him?
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OraLabora
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The Feast of the Immaculate Conception is a solemnity. “Feast” in this case is used as a generic term, but the degree of “feast” is, in this case, a Solemnity. All Holy Days of Obligation (HDO) are Solemnities at least in my country, but not all Solemnities are HDO.Well, we didn’t say it at my church.
I just chalked it up to it NOT being a Sunday OR a Solemnity… but a Day of Obligation.
Are you saying that as a Day of Obligation, that makes it a Solemnity? I thought it was the FEAST of the Immaculate Conception.
I haven’t done a lot of Daily Masses in my life, so when I get there, and there is no Creed, I sort of freak out, only to be quieted with the awareness that the Creed is typically not done at Daily Masses.
Why was it done at your church, if it’s not a Sunday, nor a Solemnity?
The degrees of “feast” (generic) are in ascending order:
Optional Memorial
Memorial
Feast
Solemnity
The Creed is said on Sundays and Solemnities (with a few rare exceptions) regardless of whether the solemnity is a HDO. It is not said on other occasions.
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Apryl
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anp1215
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Thank you for the welcome
And that was another strange thing, there were no worship aids in the pews to look at(on Sundays there are), but even on Sundays, they don’t put the Creed in them, they just jump from the Gospel to the Liturgy of the Eucharist.
And another confusing thing, as someone else pointed out, is that sometimes they refer to it as a Solemnity, and sometimes a feast. I heard it referred to as both in the same Mass last night. I wish they would just stick to “Solemnity” as I think it would prevent confusion, especially for “new” people like me.
P.S. I like my priest, I think both of the priests at my parish are great.
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anp1215
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That is interesting because at ours we said the Gloria but omitted the Creed!
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anp1215
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See discussion above
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MarkThompson
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Oftentimes these will not be in all the pews, but, since most people don’t care to use them, there will be a smaller quantity somewhere near the entrance or the back of the church.Thank you for the welcome
And that was another strange thing, there were no worship aids in the pews to look at(on Sundays there are),
It ought to be Gospel → homily → Creed → Prayers of the Faithful → Offertory. They really ought to be doing the Creed, either the Nicene or the Apostles’.
The general term for all celebrations of saints, blesseds, mysteries of Our Lord, etc., is “feast.” For determining some issues of liturgical preference (which is celebrated if two fall on the same day?) and certain other liturgical questions (must the Gloria by sung?), “feasts” as a generic class have been subdivided into Solemnities (the most important feasts), Feasts (feasts of middling importance), and Memorials (feasts of lesser importance). So the day of some little-known saint is properly called his or her “feast day”, even if it only ranks as a Memorial for liturgical purposes.
Wikipedia has a pretty good article on the topic at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranking_of_liturgical_days_in_the_Roman_Rite. The “Solemnity” and “Memorial” terminology only dates from 1969, which I imagine is another reason why it remains customary to refer to all of these as “feasts” in a generic sense.
Great!
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