Haha your last sentence made me laugh- my “sinner friends” would be practising members of the Roman Catholic Church- maybe they are coming to Communion without the proper preparation but at least they are members of the Catholic Church- the Catholic Church firmly teaches that those outside her Communion may not receive!
And also teaches that those in mortal sin "profane the body of The Lord " by partaking.
Couldn’t agree with you more my friend! It is very wrong of people not in the correct state to go to Communion, yet sadly many people are teaching that it is okay to go no matter what. I don’t agree with them, but firstly those who go to Communion must be members of the Catholic Church- that is the most vital thing, people cannot receive Communion multiple times at Mass even if they are the Holiest person there- I understand and thank you for your comment, but in all honesty I had no wrong or bad intention- many Priests and Ministers, even Religious and Laity would have been very harsh on that poor man if they saw what had happened. I alerted the Father (as he told me to inform him of these things, as in the past when we had a lady taking the host away and putting it in handbag - since then he asked me and all the Ministers to keep a close eye) and I said very kindly to the lady that her partner should not receive Communion- not as many people seem to have understood that I said it in a nasty or very unkind way. God bless you!
Amen. Thank you for posting!
You have understood rightly- he went up three times. He certainly was not a Catholic, he didn’t make the sign of the Cross at all and sat down during the Gospel and the Consecration- I am not “judging” him for that but it is a clear indication that he is not Catholic, and his actions at Communion would be an indication of that- afterwards in the Sacristy Father called him extremely Ignorant and said he had had words with him , but I don’t know what he said and he is a wonderful Priest so I know he would have done it kindly and gently. Although many Priests would have been quite strong in their rebuke. The couple were clearly not married,- I was not judging them just stating the fact- it was obvious, they were quite young and neither had wedding rings (and well I think most people would have realised that, it is not being judgemental just taking note) my Priest is very loving but very strict on the fact that couples who have children and are unmarried mustn’t come to Communion (if he knows the situation) until they are married.
Agreed.
Thank you so much dear Bernadette, you have truly understood why I did what I did and the genuine reasons and intentions for it. People have remarked and called me judgemental but I only had the Dignity of the Eucharist at mind and heart.
And as I pointed out several times, correction can be handed out appropriately. The person had already consumed the Eucharist, perhaps you’d advocate stomach pumping I don’t know, but anyway it was done.
Thank you and God bless you, you are a good person and Jesus loves you.Agreed.
OP, I know you from your posts to be a very loving and devout disciple.
But those remarks were way above your pay scale.
It’s the Priest’s duty and responsibility to tend to these things. You informed him. That’s it.
It’s the priest’s place to deal with it as he deems appropriate, which may never be discussed with you.
As one poster said, Jesus can take care of Himself. Good that you love and respect Christ in His True Presence, but you quite possibly have done much more harm than good.
You’re wearing too many hats. Remember you are a lay person. Bringing it to the forum seems a bit self-serving. I’m sure you’re a bit surprised more people didn’t say BRAVO! Good for you!
Apologize as one poster said. And step back into the shadows.
This is not just something that happened in your life. This happens when people begin to think that their role is paramount at the church. I know of a Sacristan that arrives 3 hours before liturgy, puts around all day, moves boxes from one place to another, and feels like the “keeper” of all the parishioners, their children, the employees, and yes, even Father.
The people that keep the parish running are essential, but are not to get too attached and possessive of their “roles”. This is what Pope Francis meant when he said that the role of the clergy is within the church, and the role of the laity is in the world. When we hang on to our “ministries” obsessively, we begin to lose perspective. In fact, it’s kind of a pet peeve of mine…everyone it seems has a “ministry”. No one just vacuums the carpet anymore or empties the candle box. it’s all “MY ministry”.
Take a deep breath, and know that God has it all in hand. And give your Pastor a break already. He knows how to handle these things and much more.
God bless you for your devotion and diligence. But chill.
What a wonderful response, God bless you, my brother in Christ!
Yes but the Orthodox have a great love and reverence for the Holy Eucharist, I have spent time in an Orthodox country doing charity work and have experienced this first hand. As you said earlier about being in the proper state- the Orthodox are very good at this and generally know the need for a good Confession before Communion- they are like how it was in our Church a few years ago. The Orthodox are also very good at making the sign of the Cross (from right to left) and do so hundreds of times during the Liturgy- they certainly weren’t Orthodox- I would wager all my life savings on that ha!
Yes Father told me he had spoken to the man in question and that the couple were not married and that they would need a serious amount of instruction before he would consider Baptising the child- he also called the man extremely ignorant- in quite an abrupt tone.
What did the Pope say about gossip?
Yes- marriage is such a beautiful Sacrament- I most likely won’t experience it myself as I am in the process of serving God in a Religious Order.
You can use that argument. However, know that the Protestants also believe in the Holy Spirit.
Here’s what the CCC says.