Scapular Question

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Hello,

If you have to go to an event where you have to wear a dress that is strapless (but a very high-cut and modest one to not expose yourself) would it be disrepspectful or a sin to take off your scapular? I’m been wearing my scapular and getting into it a lot I’m not “enrolled” in it, but I have a blessed one they gave me at school. I don’t want to cause any conflict with anyone, but on the other hand, I don’t want to offend Mary.

Any thoughts are appreciated!

-Jeanne
 
Why not get a scapular medal to wear on the occasions you have to wear that dress. If you wear the scapular to honor Mary you don’t need other people to notice it. If you wear it to give a witness, you can do that by wearing the medal as well. I don’t think your dear mother in heaven would be offended by that.

Also, it’s recommended that the scapular be worn around the neck but it can also be worn elsewhere or carried. You could pin it inside the waistband of the dress.

Definitely no sin involved in not wearing the scapular with this dress. But your tender conscience is a blessing.
 
Claire_from_DE said:
Why not get a scapular medal to wear on the occasions you have to wear that dress. If you wear the scapular to honor Mary you don’t need other people to notice it. If you wear it to give a witness, you can do that by wearing the medal as well. I don’t think your dear mother in heaven would be offended by that.

Also, it’s recommended that the scapular be worn around the neck but it can also be worn elsewhere or carried. You could pin it inside the waistband of the dress.

Definitely no sin involved in not wearing the scapular with this dress. But your tender conscience is a blessing.
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Thank you very much! I actually have a scapular medal attached to a pretty beaded necklace that I can wear. I appreciate it. Also, I like your signature 🙂

-Jeanne
 
Claire_from_DE said:
Why not get a scapular medal to wear on the occasions you have to wear that dress. If you wear the scapular to honor Mary you don’t need other people to notice it. If you wear it to give a witness, you can do that by wearing the medal as well. I don’t think your dear mother in heaven would be offended by that.

Also, it’s recommended that the scapular be worn around the neck but it can also be worn elsewhere or carried. You could pin it inside the waistband of the dress.

Definitely no sin involved in not wearing the scapular with this dress. But your tender conscience is a blessing.
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Jeanne, I encourage you to get your Scapular imposed/enrolled by a priest as soon as possible.

Regarding the Brown Scapular:

The Scapular must be worn over the shoulders in such a manner that one part hangs in
front of the body and the other in back. Worn in any other way, it carries no indulgence or
promise. It is not necessary to wear the Scapular next to the skin. Many Catholics may not know it is the wish of the Holy Father that the Scapular Medal should NOT be worn in place of the cloth Scapular without sufficient reason. Mary cannot be pleased with anyone who substitutes the medal out of vanity, or out of fear of making an open profession of faith. The medal has never been noted for any of the miraculous preservations attributed to the brown cloth Scapular. (”Garment of Grace” Imprimatur: Most Rev. Timothy Harrington, March 9, 1990)

-The Scapular must be made of cloth and worn over the shoulders by cloth, cord or a chain.
-It may NOT be pinned or fastened to clothing as a replacement for wearing it over the shoulders.
-In necessary cases, such as in missions, the scapular medal may be worn instead. However, if the scapular medal is worn for insufficient reason, such as vanity *OR *convenience, the wearer runs the risk of not receiving the benefit of the promise.

freebrownscapular.com/
 
A scapular medal can only be substituted when you’re enrolled in the scapular.

Strapless is never modest. Dresses require sleeves for that.

It sounds like a moral test, honestly.
 
croix_de_fer said:
Jeanne, I encourage you to get your Scapular imposed/enrolled by a priest as soon as possible.

Regarding the Brown Scapular:

The Scapular must be worn over the shoulders in such a manner that one part hangs in
front of the body and the other in back. Worn in any other way, it carries no indulgence or
promise. It is not necessary to wear the Scapular next to the skin. Many Catholics may not know it is the wish of the Holy Father that the Scapular Medal should NOT be worn in place of the cloth Scapular without sufficient reason. Mary cannot be pleased with anyone who substitutes the medal out of vanity, or out of fear of making an open profession of faith. The medal has never been noted for any of the miraculous preservations attributed to the brown cloth Scapular. (”Garment of Grace” Imprimatur: Most Rev. Timothy Harrington, March 9, 1990)

-The Scapular must be made of cloth and worn over the shoulders by cloth, cord or a chain.
-It may NOT be pinned or fastened to clothing as a replacement for wearing it over the shoulders.
-In necessary cases, such as in missions, the scapular medal may be worn instead. However, if the scapular medal is worn for insufficient reason, such as vanity *OR *convenience, the wearer runs the risk of not receiving the benefit of the promise.

freebrownscapular.com/
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Would it be bad to keep it around your shoulders, but fasten it so that it would stay tucked in? I don’t want to take it off. I’m getting enrolled in it tomorrow.

-Jeanne
 
jeanne71350 said:
Would it be bad to keep it around your shoulders, but fasten it so that it would stay tucked in? I don’t want to take it off. I’m getting enrolled in it tomorrow.

-Jeanne
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Hi Jeanne, sorry for the late reply…I just read the above… First, congratulations on getting your Scapular enrolled.
As long as you are wearing it to the necessary effect that one part is in front of your chest and the other part is in the back, then I believe you can fasten it to your dress so it stays tucked. The Scapular does not have to be shown while you are wearing it. It may be tucked inside clothing or worn on the outside. However you should NOT fasten it or pin it to clothing as a replacement for wearing it over your shoulders because it will NOT carry the promise and indulgence. But again, as long as you are wearing it over your shoulders, one side front and the other back, I see no problem with fastening to the inside of your dress (I guess you would have to do it front and back).

Remember…in order to receive the full promises by the Blessed Mother and the spiritual graces by God:

1)The scapular must be worn as much as possible.
2) Chastity to one’s state in life must be observed.
3) Pray the Rosary daily OR pray the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin.

Your priest (doing the Rite of Enrollment) should be able to answer any questions you might have about the Scapular.
 
What kind of event requires a person to wear a strapless dress? :confused: Is there some kind of new dress code that schools are enforcing now? “You may not wear clothing with sleeves to school events.” I have never heard of such a thing.

As Shin said, strapless dresses are never modest.
 
Student09 said:
What kind of event requires a person to wear a strapless dress? :confused: Is there some kind of new dress code that schools are enforcing now? “You may not wear clothing with sleeves to school events.” I have never heard of such a thing.

As Shin said, strapless dresses are never modest.
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Hey, I never said I can’t wear a shawl over it.

-Jeanne.
 
Miserys_Fence said:
I beg to differ. Strapless dresses are not immodest by default. My daughter’s strapless wedding dress covers more than enough.

Miz
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I agree. It’s not for Church, I would never wear something like that during Mass. A tastefully high-cut one will cover you up. And you can always slip a shawl on.

-Jeanne
 
Generally one shouldn’t wear something that is immodest without a shawl or jacket either, as people don’t assume you will always keep the extras on, and so it is a bad example.
 
Hoping this isn’t off-topic (I’m new to the forums): has anyone else had the puzzlement of finding that one’s scapular slips and slides till one end or the other’s up against the neck? (Ah’m a slender fellow…) …or devised any solution?
 
Serry said:
Hoping this isn’t off-topic (I’m new to the forums): has anyone else had the puzzlement of finding that one’s scapular slips and slides till one end or the other’s up against the neck? (Ah’m a slender fellow…) …or devised any solution?
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There’re several versions of the ‘Crusader Scapular’ with different length cords, and optional medals, for example from Rose Scapular.

Perhaps a longer cord would help that way?
 
Serry said:
Hoping this isn’t off-topic (I’m new to the forums): has anyone else had the puzzlement of finding that one’s scapular slips and slides till one end or the other’s up against the neck? (Ah’m a slender fellow…) …or devised any solution?
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My religion teacher said to tie a knot on both sides of the scapular so you have a hole the size for your head, 2 knots, then the scapular just hangs down.

-Jeanne
 
Serry said:
Hoping this isn’t off-topic (I’m new to the forums): has anyone else had the puzzlement of finding that one’s scapular slips and slides till one end or the other’s up against the neck? (Ah’m a slender fellow…) …or devised any solution?
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When that happens you can consider it a reminder that you are wearing it, and use the occasion to be mindful of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, her love for you, and how she is leading you closer to Our Lord.
 
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