Scapular Question

[jeanne71350]

Hi everyone,

Quick question. Is it acceptable for a lady to take off the sting of a scapular and pin the 2 squares to her bra in the front and back like she would be wearing it normally, except not using the string? I have a dress that the string would be popping out of (it has a shawl for modesty reasons) and I don’t want to have to worry about it. I really DO NOT want to take my scapular off…Is this acceptable?

-J

 

[Scoobyshme]

Jeanne, is the cloth from the scapular touching you? If so, I would think you’re safe. You’re going to buy a new one to replace th old one, yes, for when you’re not wearing that dress?

 

[jeanne71350]

Jeanne, is the cloth from the scapular touching you? If so, I would think you’re safe. You’re going to buy a new one to replace th old one, yes, for when you’re not wearing that dress?

Yes, I have a really nice wool one which I wear every day, and a plastic one to change into when I don’t want to mess up the nice one (like when I did the mascot for football games and didn’t want to sweat out the cloth). I would just remove the string from that one. and the string is even attached through some slits so I could put it back after.

 

[philipmarie]

No, it is not actually, because according to wikipedia the scapular must be held by two intact strings or else, it isn’t a scapular. Also, scapulars have to be made of brown wool.

I don’t mean to offend or be immodest but from your description of the dress I imagine it to be one that has ‘strings’ or some clothe so that keeps it from falling to the floor. Even though it is covered by a shawl, I think that it is immodest and you ought not to wear it. It goes against Marylike standards of modesty. I suggest buying some other dress which conceals the shoulders and the back.

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

. Also, scapulars have to be made of brown wool.
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Not trying to be a smart alleck, but does that include the Passionist black scapular and the green scapular?

 

[jeanne71350]

No, it is not actually, because according to wikipedia the scapular must be held by two intact strings or else, it isn’t a scapular. Also, scapulars have to be made of brown wool.

I don’t mean to offend or be immodest but from your description of the dress I imagine it to be one that has ‘strings’ or some clothe so that keeps it from falling to the floor. Even though it is covered by a shawl, I think that it is immodest and you ought not to wear it. It goes against Marylike standards of modesty. I suggest buying some other dress which conceals the shoulders and the back.

The shoulders and back are concealed by the way the shawl is wrapped, and I am keeping it on the entire time. I have a scar on my shoulder and I really would prefer to keep that concealed. And I really cannot get another dress, I literally looked everywhere and this is the best I could do for my price range (I prayed about it). I do not think our Blessed Mother would want me to be a burden on my parents by making them pay a lot more money for a dress that could be equally as concealed with a shawl. I just do what I can.

And I wasn’t clear, the back of the plastic one has wool, but the front is plastic.

 

[philipmarie]

Well, I don’t mean to be a smart alleck either but, the front of the scapular must also be made of wool. And yes, even the black, blue and red scapulars have to be made out of 100% wool. The green scapular though can be made out of any green material though to my knowledge, although the ones I have are made out of wool (without strings!)

Jeanne71350, well, er, SELL YOUR HOUSE TO BUY A NEW DRESS!(laughs evilly) I’m just kidding there, but I really don’t suggest wearing the scapular the way you said because the scapular just isn’t worn that way. I got the idea that, since it is a symbol of Mary’s mantle, it is supposed to hang on the chest and back because mantles are supposed to hang when you wear them.

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

Well, I don’t mean to be a smart alleck either but, the front of the scapular must also be made of wool. And yes, even the black, blue and red scapulars have to be made out of 100% wool. The green scapular though can be made out of any green material though to my knowledge, although the ones I have are made out of wool (without strings!)

Jeanne71350, well, er, SELL YOUR HOUSE TO BUY A NEW DRESS!(laughs evilly) I’m just kidding there, but I really don’t suggest wearing the scapular the way you said because the scapular just isn’t worn that way. I got the idea that, since it is a symbol of Mary’s mantle, it is supposed to hang on the chest and back because mantles are supposed to hang when you wear them.

Grazie per la risposta

 

[jeanne71350]

Well, I don’t mean to be a smart alleck either but, the front of the scapular must also be made of wool. And yes, even the black, blue and red scapulars have to be made out of 100% wool. The green scapular though can be made out of any green material though to my knowledge, although the ones I have are made out of wool (without strings!)

Jeanne71350, well, er, SELL YOUR HOUSE TO BUY A NEW DRESS!(laughs evilly) I’m just kidding there, but I really don’t suggest wearing the scapular the way you said because the scapular just isn’t worn that way. I got the idea that, since it is a symbol of Mary’s mantle, it is supposed to hang on the chest and back because mantles are supposed to hang when you wear them.

Hahaha trust me, if I would have access to one, I would LOVE to wear a modest dress, but I found something that just needed a little cover up that I also love! and I guess I’ll figure something out about the scapular. At least my heart is in the right place b/c I don’t want to have to take it off.

-J

 

[m8g8]

How long is the string for your scapular? Because I wear a green scapular and am able to spread the string out so that it doesn’t show. You could try to spread the string just past your bra straps so it grips onto them and the scapular shouldn’t be seen. However, if you have short hair, this may be difficult to pull off, because usually the back cloth is up to your neck.

 

[odile53]

For the purpose of wearing this particular dress, can you restring it with longer strings, pin the shorter ones to one of the longer strings, and then remove the pin after you’re through wearing the dress?

Even when I was performing in ballet, I always wore my scapular. I just restrung it with longer nylon thread, so it was invisible under a costume (most of the costumes had flesh-colored nylon tulle covering the shoulders, mainly for the purpose of stability while assuming extreme positions, so although they look pretty exposed, they really aren’t.) And yes, I replaced it many times, because (as you can imagine) the cloth got pretty gamy after a few months of use.

 

[Wildkit]

For the purpose of wearing this particular dress, can you restring it with longer strings, pin the shorter ones to one of the longer strings, and then remove the pin after you’re through wearing the dress?

Even when I was performing in ballet, I always wore my scapular. I just restrung it with longer nylon thread, so it was invisible under a costume (most of the costumes had flesh-colored nylon tulle covering the shoulders, mainly for the purpose of stability while assuming extreme positions, so although they look pretty exposed, they really aren’t.) And yes, I replaced it many times, because (as you can imagine) the cloth got pretty gamy after a few months of use.

Bless you Odile53.

 

[jeanne71350]

For the purpose of wearing this particular dress, can you restring it with longer strings, pin the shorter ones to one of the longer strings, and then remove the pin after you’re through wearing the dress?

Even when I was performing in ballet, I always wore my scapular. I just restrung it with longer nylon thread, so it was invisible under a costume (most of the costumes had flesh-colored nylon tulle covering the shoulders, mainly for the purpose of stability while assuming extreme positions, so although they look pretty exposed, they really aren’t.) And yes, I replaced it many times, because (as you can imagine) the cloth got pretty gamy after a few months of use.

Thank you! This really helped me! God bless you!

-Jeanne

 

[jeanne71350]

How long is the string for your scapular? Because I wear a green scapular and am able to spread the string out so that it doesn’t show. You could try to spread the string just past your bra straps so it grips onto them and the scapular shouldn’t be seen. However, if you have short hair, this may be difficult to pull off, because usually the back cloth is up to your neck.

Thanks! I have done this before, and I do have long hair and have had to hide it!

-Jeanne

 

[odile53]

If you go with the restringing idea I mentioned above, if you go to WalMart or Joanne’s, look in the notion section for something called “clear nylon thread.” What you’re going to do here is use a plain old needle and thread it with a long piece of nylon thread, about three and a half feet worth. Tie a knot in the two free ends. Take the needle and insert it into one of the cloth pieces, then tie a second knot with the thread still in the needle as close to the fabric as you can. Now take the other piece of cloth, and take a stitch in it, and tie off. Make sure that you leave the roughly twenty inches or so loose between the two squares of fabric. Cut off the short tail where the needle is, rethread it as described, and repeat so that you have two nearly invisible scapular strings.

This kind of nylon thread is difficult to work with, so be patient. But it does work.

 

[jeanne71350]

If you go with the restringing idea I mentioned above, if you go to WalMart or Joanne’s, look in the notion section for something called “clear nylon thread.” What you’re going to do here is use a plain old needle and thread it with a long piece of nylon thread, about three and a half feet worth. Tie a knot in the two free ends. Take the needle and insert it into one of the cloth pieces, then tie a second knot with the thread still in the needle as close to the fabric as you can. Now take the other piece of cloth, and take a stitch in it, and tie off. Make sure that you leave the roughly twenty inches or so loose between the two squares of fabric. Cut off the short tail where the needle is, rethread it as described, and repeat so that you have two nearly invisible scapular strings.

This kind of nylon thread is difficult to work with, so be patient. But it does work.

I’m probably going to be wearing this bra with clear straps, so this will work out! And my sewing skills will come in use! Thanks

-Jeanne