Scared - Need help. Is Islam the truth?

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Who is worse overall. The Islamic extremests or the western world. This question really hits home to me. Western values are a joke.
I thought you were talking about Christianity at first. Now you’re going off about the “western world”. Which is it you have a problem with, anyway?

As for your questions about the video, it’s a bit presumptive to just post a link to an hour-long lecture and then expect everybody here to read your mind and answer all the questions it caused you to have. Like we keep saying, give us some specifics.
 
The answer I recieve SCREAMS at me. Convert. You have to convert. Millions of innocents die every year in the western world. A greater atrocity than the holocaust itself. The islamic nations of the world may dissagree with the west and think it evil, but are they wrong? Abortion is non-existent, Aids is the lowest for any society. The people dont drink, smoke etc etc. The life of a muslim is a life that follows all the laws of god. The life of a person in the rest of the world is a life that promotes breaking the law of god. Imagine if 50,000,000 jews were being slaughtered every year in a holocost. The citizens of the United States would not only reccommend that we go to war and stop the slaughter, but we would DEMAND it.

Well that is exactly what is happening. Millions are exterminated every year and the religious of this country condone it. They think that beliefs are a right and not to be forced on anyone. 80% of our country is Christian yet it is legal to crush the brain of a baby that is birthed up to the neck. Is this the right of citezens? Does freedom mean freedom from gods laws? If you look back through scripture, times like these are right prior to end of world situations.

Who is worse overall. The Islamic extremests or the western world. This question really hits home to me. Western values are a joke.
Dont confuse REAL Christianity which is Catholicism with “the west”. The Catholic Church openly screams about the evil of things like abortion and teaches its a mortal sin.
 
Dont confuse REAL Christianity which is Catholicism with “the west”. The Catholic Church openly screams about the evil of things like abortion and teaches its a mortal sin.
It’s all about “guilt by association”. Gotta admit, though - the Muslims have actually succeeded in getting a lot of people to buy into it.
 
Stove, i watched the movie and as many told you there are many sites debunking the science “miracles” in the Quran. The embryology that Naik is so pround of was known before Islam, that’s one example.

Regarding the immorality of the west, many Christians will agree with you…in fact millions…but the West is not Christianity but secularism: separation between state and religion.

Regarding Muslim societies, well i live in the Middle East. Not everything that shines is gold. For the sake of charity, i will refrain from writing the immorality rampant in the ME though under the table. If you are interested to know, PM me and you’ll read wonders even in the “holiest” Islamic countries. Beware, Jesus already said He is sending us as sheep among wolves and that things will not be easy but we must endure for His name 🙂
 
Stove, i watched the movie and as many told you there are many sites debunking the science “miracles” in the Quran. The embryology that Naik is so pround of was known before Islam, that’s one example.

Regarding the immorality of the west, many Christians will agree with you…in fact millions…but the West is not Christianity but secularism: separation between state and religion.

Regarding Muslim societies, well i live in the Middle East. Not everything that shines is gold. For the sake of charity, i will refrain from writing the immorality rampant in the ME though under the table. If you are interested to know, PM me and you’ll read wonders even in the “holiest” Islamic countries. Beware, Jesus already said He is sending us as sheep among wolves and that things will not be easy but we must endure for His name 🙂
The fact that cameras arent allowed in many non western countries is a good point to bring up. Its easy to see our “sins” when cameras surround us while its easy to assume nothing is wrong elsewhere simply because we dont see it on tv.
Darfur anybody???
 
I believe this is the website: answering-islam.org/ The dot com in your post appears to be an Islamic apologetics website.
Yes, that’s very common. In fact, take any well-known website that gives you a critical look at Islam and just change the top-level domain to .org, .com, or .net (depending on what the TLD on the original site is) and more often than not there’s an Islamic propaganda page in its place, designed to catch any stray visitors that made a mistake typing in the intended site’s name. I’m not sure how effective it really is, but to me it seems pretty desperate.
 
stove,
Why worry about the morality of other people? You should just worry about your own morality. Islam is not the answer - it only imposes a backward 7th century form of morality on society - there is nothing good about that.
 
Heck, I’ll give you some examples just for fun… compare:

(ones on left are originals, ones on right are Islamist propaganda)

www.faithfreedom.org to www.faithfreedom.com
and www.faithfreedom.net

www.answering-islam.org to www.answering-islam.com
(it seems .net was snatched by a Christian group before Islamists could get to it)

www.secularislam.org to www.secularislam.com
What is it about Muslims and name-jackings? It’s like dogs trying to have the last piss.
 
Make your own mind up stove, don’t let anybody influence your decision.
 
The western world is just that the western world, it is not Christianity.

I would judge Christianity by its adherents not the people who reject it or the separation of it. Unfortunately many Muslims use a strawman attack in which they attack the people who do not practice Christianity, and then blame Christians for it.

Is it part of Christian belief to kill anyone? No
Is it part of Christian belief to be married more than once? No
Is it part of Christianity to allow abortion? No.
Is it part of Christianity to allow sexual perversion? No.

So all these attacks against Christians are attacks against what Christians don’t believe. This is like me attacking a Muslim and saying that they believe that Mohammed was God. They don’t believe that and me doing that is dishonest.

In Christ
Scylla
 
Islam is the horse that began to run the track long after the race had ended.
 
if you havn’t seen it, or refuse to watch it, then I am sceptical of your responses. Please watch it and tell me what parts are fraud. The stuff he says is all backed up. This was the 2nd part of a debate. The first speaker was a catholic scientist. This speaker rebutts him and gives scientific facts. I am pretty sure that every single one of his statements are true. Now because of that my main question would be, why is the bible scientifically wrong and the quran scientifically correct? Could the devil have influenced mohammed and given him knowledge of science?
I’m scared too, stove. I’m scared that people on this forum are really falling for your garbage. Your post quoted above shows that you are a Muslim troll.

I am also scared that Muslims will rape and murder my grandchildren. The Quran teaches that it is okay to lie, cheat and steal from non-Muslims, and to rape and murder “infidels”, so long as it is believed to further the cause of Islam.

I’m scared and need help, to get rid of you and your kind before you get to me and my family.

Go away.

Paul
 
I’m scared too, stove. I’m scared that people on this forum are really falling for your garbage. Your post quoted above shows that you are a Muslim troll.

I am also scared that Muslims will rape and murder my grandchildren. The Quran teaches that it is okay to lie, cheat and steal from non-Muslims, and to rape and murder “infidels”, so long as it is believed to further the cause of Islam.

I’m scared and need help, to get rid of you and your kind before you get to me and my family.

Go away.

Paul
Where may I ask does it say that? :confused:
 
I wonder why stove has not brought us some of those irrefutable scientific evidence that the Quran is true. I’m really disappointed to say the least.
 
i agree with Paul about the identity of the OP…but let’s see if he/she comes back again …
 
i agree with Paul about the identity of the OP…but let’s see if he/she comes back again …
Agreed and reminds me of what I think is a pretty strong case against Islam. In Christianity uttering falsehoods is always and everywhere objectively wrong. In Islam it is permitted in circumstances. Meaning how on earth could one accept their word without wondering if it is one of those circumstances? Of course Christians are capable of lying and Muslims are capable of telling the truth, but the teaching is what it is. A religion based on Truth whatever the cost or situational ethics? Pretty easy choice if you ask me.

Scott
 
I’m scared too, stove. I’m scared that people on this forum are really falling for your garbage. Your post quoted above shows that you are a Muslim troll.

I am also scared that Muslims will rape and murder my grandchildren. The Quran teaches that it is okay to lie, cheat and steal from non-Muslims, and to rape and murder “infidels”, so long as it is believed to further the cause of Islam.

I’m scared and need help, to get rid of you and your kind before you get to me and my family.

Go away.

Paul
LOL!
 
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