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I’ve been reading and watching on youtube people interviewed who have had near death experiences and went to hell instead of heaven. Many of them are similar, one account more horrible than the next. These people seem to be sincere, but if what they experienced is true, then some of the reasons they went there were what we would consider venial sins. Also, one young lady from South America said that she saw different celebrities there and also someone I can’t even mention for fear the mod will remove it. I couldn’t sleep after reading this. So very disturbing and left me feeling like there is little hope for anyone. These were not “Catholic” experiences considering the conversations they had with “jesus” or whoever they were speaking with. One said that Jesus told her that his mother has no idea that people are worshiping her, or praying to her on earth or calling on her for help on earth. I have only read one or two Catholic experiences, one from Gloria Polo, which is also very scary. I have no one to talk to about these things, which is why I am posting it here. Any thoughts about this?
 
The experiences expressed in these kind of videos would be, at best, private revelation. Catholics are never obliged to accept private revelation. This is particularly true when the experiences are not vetted by the Church, as in the case of the major visitations of the Virgin Mary.

Since the Church has not approved these experiences, and even if it had, you would not need to accept them, I would advice ignoring these videos altogether.

Christ is a loving Son, who protected His mother from all sin. He would never speak so dismissively about people’s honest attempts to honor his mother.
 
While some of those NDEs might be true, I have a feeling that many people make them up for various reasons, or their experiences might have been from the devil, in order to induce the kind of fear you’re experiencing from hearing about them. It seems that there’s been a trend lately for people to ‘share’ these kinds of experiences. Of course, there are always a few nutcases that will make things up just to get attention. Just take them all with a grain of salt.

I know there are some that are real. My father had one when he suffered a massive coronary heart attack (I was 7) and his heart stopped beating for over 4 minutes, but he didn’t like to talk about it because it was very emotional for him. My mother said there were some things he said he couldn’t tell anyone because they were personal messages for him alone. So, don’t be too concerned about them. Most NDEs are probably not meant to be spoken about to other people.
 
I can’t vouch for the truth of these stories, but I do know that studies have found that many near death experiences are merely products of biological causes such as high levels of carbon dioxide. We can never really know for certain if a person has really seen the afterlife or not, no matter how sincere he or she is. Not to say that they never happen, but that any such experience needs to be considered from within the framework of our faith, not as things to define what we believe.
 
I believe I have read the same youtube account of hell that you describe and I have to say that it shook me to the core. The Catholic church does, in its catechism books, tell of the existence of heaven and hell, but has not always shared that teaching with the masses. Many christian churches, though not all, preach about the end of days (of which we are in the last days), while the Catholic church remains curiously silent on the matter.

I for one think it is good to read accounts of hell (and heaven) because it reminds us of our true destiny and purpose. We were made for a relationship with God and one of the reasons we are hearing so many cases of people returning from heaven and hell is I believe, because God is making a last final effort to open the eyes of His people who have forgotten Him. It is only within the last few decades that these stories are coming through and I attribute it to God’s mercy and compassion that He is allowing people to return from hell (and heaven) and back. Medical science too has made such advances that resuscitating people from the dead is more commonplace than ever–as grateful souls are returning from the beyond with stories of either a heaven that is indescribable in its’ beauty or a hell that is indescribable in its’ horror.

So, I wish more people would take these stories more seriously because, while these personal accounts tell of God’s unending love and mercy for His people, know that in the days to come, we will be seeing and experiencing firsthand the wrath and vengeance of a just and mighty God. If you have any doubts about what it to come, go to the Book of Revelation to discover the final judgement that awaits all of us.

As for your concerns, I would say this. If anything, let these horrible stories of hell move you to a closer relationship with God and Jesus. I believe that, when all is said and done, we will be judged on the two commandments which Jesus gave us–to love God with your whole heart and soul and to love your neighbor as yourself. If we work on having that relationship with God (through Jesus who is the way, the truth and the life and the ONLY way into heaven), we shouldn’t be afraid of not making it to heaven. When you have a close relationship with God where you can talk to Him (in good times and bad), when you put Him above all else (the first commandment to love), and walk in real faith (prayer and action), then I believe you are on the path that leads to Jesus, that leads to your eternal salvation.

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I believe I have read the same youtube account of hell that you describe and I have to say that it shook me to the core. The Catholic church does, in its catechism books, tell of the existence of heaven and hell, but has not always shared that teaching with the masses. Many christian churches, though not all, preach about the end of days (of which we are in the last days), while the Catholic church remains curiously silent on the matter.
We’ve been in ‘the last days’ ever since Jesus walked the earth, so we are all living in the last era and have been for a very long time. That’s not a big secret to most Catholics. That being said, we might very well be getting much closer to the Second Coming for that reason. I do have to disagree with your opinion that the Church has not always taught about hell, though. If you read the lives of many Saints of the Church throughout history, you will see that a good number of them have spoken at great length about the existence of hell and the fact that many souls do fall into hell. There are also many Saints that have had visions of both hell and Purgatory. I think the problem is that there are too many Priests these days that have moved away from preaching any sermons about hell. They hardly ever mention the word, at all, anymore.

When I was much younger, I remember hearing many more sermons on hell, and, we were certainly taught about it in CCD classes. Some Priests seem to be afraid to bring the subject up in sermons because it tends to make people ‘feel’ very ‘uncomfortable’. So, they tend to focus more on the ‘positive’ aspects of the faith, and not as much on sin and its punishment. I think they need to go back and start reminding people that sin really does exist, and that we will all be punished for it if we continue to disregard it as if we never sinned.
I for one think it is good to read accounts of hell (and heaven) because it reminds us of our true destiny and purpose. We were made for a relationship with God and one of the reasons we are hearing so many cases of people returning from heaven and hell is I believe, because God is making a last final effort to open the eyes of His people who have forgotten Him. It is only within the last few decades that these stories are coming through and I attribute it to God’s mercy and compassion that He is allowing people to return from hell (and heaven) and back. Medical science too has made such advances that resuscitating people from the dead is more commonplace than ever–as grateful souls are returning from the beyond with stories of either a heaven that is indescribable in its’ beauty or a hell that is indescribable in its’ horror.
I totally agree that we don’t hear enough about hell anymore, but some of these ‘accounts’ are not very credible and can mislead people about what they really need to do to avoid hell, or to get to heaven. If you want to read about hell, there are many Catholic books about the subject, along with those on Purgatory, angels and Heaven. Tan Books is a good place to search for Catholic books on any of those subjects.
So, I wish more people would take these stories more seriously because, while these personal accounts tell of God’s unending love and mercy for His people, know that in the days to come, we will be seeing and experiencing firsthand the wrath and vengeance of a just and mighty God. If you have any doubts about what it to come, go to the Book of Revelation to discover the final judgement that awaits all of us.
We have always seen evidence of God’s punishments, but these accounts can contain grave errors and misconceptions. People tend to misinterpret the meanings and symbolism in those types of visions. They may not be very accurate.
As for your concerns, I would say this. If anything, let these horrible stories of hell move you to a closer relationship with God and Jesus. I believe that, when all is said and done, we will be judged on the two commandments which Jesus gave us–to love God with your whole heart and soul and to love your neighbor as yourself. If we work on having that relationship with God (through Jesus who is the way, the truth and the life and the ONLY way into heaven), we shouldn’t be afraid of not making it to heaven. When you have a close relationship with God where you can talk to Him (in good times and bad), when you put Him above all else (the first commandment to love), and walk in real faith (prayer and action), then I believe you are on the path that leads to Jesus, that leads to your eternal salvation.
I agree. 😉
God Rocks
Amen! 👍
 
I always thought The Church teaches that once in Hell, there is no return. Same for Heaven God bless:thumbsup:👍👍
 
Hi Coco

I just had a look at one of the videos, the Gloria Polo “testimony”. It looks like just another scam, probably to draw people into their group “Jesus of Mercy Foundation.” I wouldn’t really take it seriously.

If you want to know about heaven and hell, read the scriptures. Jesus tells us how to live to attain heaven and what actions lead to hell. If you like You Tube, I reccommend, looking at some videos by theologians like Father Robert Barron (he has done an excellent series of Catholicism) and the late Bishop Fulton Sheen and also you can watch many archived EWTN programmes.

God bless you and sweet dreams,
Clare 🙂
 
I’ve been reading and watching on youtube people interviewed who have had near death experiences and went to hell instead of heaven. ?
it’s youtube
the internet
where people are free to post any garbage they want

why on earth would you believe any random thing you see there?
why moreover would you allow it to disturb you?
why not spend your time on worthwhile sites that improve your education and spirituality and avoid the rest of the dreck which is 90% of what is out there

who is posting these things? what are the links? my bet is either they are scams, they are trying to lure you to a site where you will spend money, or get more confused, or doubt yourself, which will lead you to other sites where you will separated from your money, if not your common sense
 
I’ve been reading and watching on youtube people interviewed who have had near death experiences and went to hell instead of heaven. Many of them are similar, one account more horrible than the next. These people seem to be sincere, but if what they experienced is true, then some of the reasons they went there were what we would consider venial sins. Also, one young lady from South America said that she saw different celebrities there and also someone I can’t even mention for fear the mod will remove it. I couldn’t sleep after reading this. So very disturbing and left me feeling like there is little hope for anyone. These were not “Catholic” experiences considering the conversations they had with “jesus” or whoever they were speaking with. One said that Jesus told her that his mother has no idea that people are worshiping her, or praying to her on earth or calling on her for help on earth. I have only read one or two Catholic experiences, one from Gloria Polo, which is also very scary. I have no one to talk to about these things, which is why I am posting it here. Any thoughts about this?
These are untrue. You only go to Hell, Purgatory or Heaven when you are dead and your soul departs your body and that is permanent.The soul does not leave the body and then come back.
 
I’ve been reading and watching on youtube people interviewed who have had near death experiences and went to hell instead of heaven. Many of them are similar, one account more horrible than the next. These people seem to be sincere, but if what they experienced is true, then some of the reasons they went there were what we would consider venial sins. Also, one young lady from South America said that she saw different celebrities there and also someone I can’t even mention for fear the mod will remove it. I couldn’t sleep after reading this. So very disturbing and left me feeling like there is little hope for anyone. These were not “Catholic” experiences considering the conversations they had with “jesus” or whoever they were speaking with. One said that Jesus told her that his mother has no idea that people are worshiping her, or praying to her on earth or calling on her for help on earth. I have only read one or two Catholic experiences, one from Gloria Polo, which is also very scary. I have no one to talk to about these things, which is why I am posting it here. Any thoughts about this?
All the things you mention above that people shared in their experiences are not valid. It sounds like they put forth their own beliefs in their experiences, which were somewhat like dreams, or that they came from a demon.

You mentioned that one said that “Jesus told her that his mother has no idea that people are worshiping her…” is absolute nonsense. It is typical anti-Catholic rhetoric. First of all we do not worship her. And many Catholics and saints can attest to the powerful intercession of Our Blessed Mother. It sounds more like demons or bad dreams were telling these things.

We should never say we think this or that person is in hell, which is what another person stated.

Do not be afraid or disturbed by what these people have related. I remember many years ago Oprah had several people on that stated they had “religious experiences”, and then went on to share outlandish things which were very un-Catholic.
 
I think these videos should be avoided. What has been revealed in Fatima and to St. Faustina (and to a number of other saints) about the reality of hell should be enough to get us thinking and to make us more fervent in our faith. It exist and people go there. That is enough for me to take it seriously. Plus, Jesus mentioned hell a lot, as the Gospels witness. I think we should trust him on that one. But watching videos like the one you mention will just scare you and not necessarily give you hope and direction on how to get to heaven.
 
I had a very similar experience last summer. I watched some videos about private revelations that scared the heck out of me! I won’t mention which ones b/c I don’t want you to see them if you’re already scared. And since I have OCD, this caused it to be manifested as scrupulosity, which I am still fighting months later. I don’t know if the experiences were real or not (they have not been approved by the Catholic church) and I think they could even be from demons. In any case, I have decided to stay away from them b/c they scare me too much. But I will say this though…IT WOKE ME UP!! And it turned me back to God and away from some things that I shouldn’t have been doing. God knows us, and He knows what will affect us most profoundly. He knows what we’re scared of (and so does the devil). But while the devil hopes that we’ll be so scared that we will despair and give up hope, God hopes we will turn to HIM! I find that praying the Rosary (for faith/trust in God and to love Jesus as much as Mary loves Him) has helped a lot, and I also talked to my priest, and I have made use of the Sacrament of Reconciliation. Reading the scriptures (daily readings) and visiting church just to be with Jesus also give me peace. But I have the feeling I am going to be fighting this for a long time and that God is permitting it in order to bring me closer to Him. At the same time, the devil does not like that I have turned away from sin, and he does not like that I am praying for the salvation of others as well, and so I’m sure he likes to put thoughts of despair/guilt in my mind. Most of all, just pray for the Lord to NEVER LET YOU GO, no matter what and to help you make it to heaven to be with Him. Message me privately if you want to talk more.
 
“Jesus told her that his mother has no idea that people are worshiping her, or praying to her on earth or calling on her for help on earth.”

Since reading this, I’ve been to Mass - a great place for discernment! This ‘being of light’ that so many identify as Jesus may be a different kind of spirit altogether - definitely was here. This pseudo-jesus told 2 lies.
  1. Mary does not know that people are worshiping her - Catholics do NOT worship Mary. If some misguided people do, she knows about it. (see lie 2!)
  2. Mary does not know that people pray to her or ask her help - The Bible clearly teaches in several places that those in heaven know what happens on earth; and are very interested - see Heb. 12:1 for just one - this is what convinced me when I was still a Protestant. The "cloud of witnesses’ is described in Chapter 11 - the saints. There are not two Churches - one on earth and one in heaven - but only one. Jesus did not say “I will build my Churches”. I suspect some anti-Catholic bias at work - certainly not Jesus speaking.
 
I’ve been reading and watching on youtube people interviewed who have had near death experiences and went to hell instead of heaven. Many of them are similar, one account more horrible than the next. These people seem to be sincere, but if what they experienced is true, then some of the reasons they went there were what we would consider venial sins. Also, one young lady from South America said that she saw different celebrities there and also someone I can’t even mention for fear the mod will remove it. I couldn’t sleep after reading this. So very disturbing and left me feeling like there is little hope for anyone. These were not “Catholic” experiences considering the conversations they had with “jesus” or whoever they were speaking with. One said that Jesus told her that his mother has no idea that people are worshiping her, or praying to her on earth or calling on her for help on earth. I have only read one or two Catholic experiences, one from Gloria Polo, which is also very scary. I have no one to talk to about these things, which is why I am posting it here. Any thoughts about this?
I’ve got good reason for believing in hell, as my own father turned up in my room the night he died. He started with an apology, we argued and conversed, and then he disappeared. However just before he disappeared, he gave this absolutely terrifying scream that was so frightening that I started to scream, and all I could see was him. I didn’t see what was coming for him, but from the way he was standing, his actions, and the sheer terror, it obviously wasn’t very pleasant.

On the other hand, I wouldn’t take any notice of this South American lady if I were you. The person you “can’t metion” was allegedly Pope JPII, and as soon as she said that, I knew she was lying. In her case I think she and her mother cooked up the whole thing to make a name for themselves.

One thing that always gets to me about all these hellish experiences is how political a lot of them are. And I’d make the same comment about some Marian visions. There is supposed to be a visionary in Conyers, Georgia, but whenever I read the alleged condemnation of some US presidents for example, the first thing that comes to mind is that she’s a Republican in spiritual drag.

The other thing that I find hard to take is the detail of conversations that a lot of them go into. When I see that, I get a bit cynical.

Oh, don’t get me wrong. I have a strong conviction that hell exists, reinforced by what happened the night my father died. But I also take a lot of these “testimonies” with a grain of salt. I know it is to be feared - my father really screamed.

That doesn’t mean you’re going there. If you’re worried enough about it to want to do something to avoid it, you probably won’t go there. It’s a paradox, but the better the person the more they worry about things like this. The worse the person, the less they worry about it. A hit man for example wouldn’t even consider it, since his entire world would revolves around him, and nothing else. He’s one dimensional.

But Hell does exist. I believe my own father is there for example.
 
I’ve been reading and watching on youtube people interviewed who have had near death experiences and went to hell instead of heaven. Many of them are similar, one account more horrible than the next. These people seem to be sincere, but if what they experienced is true, then some of the reasons they went there were what we would consider venial sins. Also, one young lady from South America said that she saw different celebrities there and also someone I can’t even mention for fear the mod will remove it. … Any thoughts about this?
Don’t believe everything you see on You Tube. Srsly - celebrities? Everybody wants to go viral.

There are good websites about NDEs. iands.org/index.php
 
I’m reading the book of Revelations now and if 144,000 people are saved… uh oh. 😊

I am in no way worthy of being saved, and it just makes me try harder. Good motivation you know?
 
These are untrue. You only go to Hell, Purgatory or Heaven when you are dead and your soul departs your body and that is permanent.The soul does not leave the body and then come back.
Do you remember when Paul was taken up to the “third heaven” and he said, “whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows?” I’m not sure how this works, I also agree that there is no complete severing of body and soul in these experiences, but I do believe the experiences of many are quite real, whatever “real” means here.
 
I’ve got good reason for believing in hell, as my own father turned up in my room the night he died. He started with an apology, we argued and conversed, and then he disappeared. However just before he disappeared, he gave this absolutely terrifying scream that was so frightening that I started to scream, and all I could see was him. I didn’t see what was coming for him, but from the way he was standing, his actions, and the sheer terror, it obviously wasn’t very pleasant."

I strongly believe in hell; and just as strongly don’t want to go there. But please don’t put such confidence in this apparition. The Church has NEVER said that anyone was in hell. But the Bible warns against ‘familiar spirits’. These are demons who are so ‘familiar’ with a life that they will convincingly imitate that person. The devil’s job description is deception. You may have had an encounter with one of these. The purpose - to stop you from praying for your father. Both my parents deserved hell (so do I for that matter) but I pray for them; and entrust them to the mercy of God. Don’t let the enemy disturb you. These apparitions can seem so real; as can some phony apparitions of Jesus and our Blessed mother. I will pray for you today.
 
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