Scholars' Corner--Big Bang

[Jim_Baur]

This is from memory, therefore I am not sure. Steven H. seems to say that he comes up with an idea, then looks to see if it could have happened. This is what I mean by “a priori.” There is no way of witnessing the event over and over again. That is what I mean by science “a posteriori.”

Those that do not have the ability to accept or comprehend the five philosophical arguments for the existence of a god(s) attack it on the grounds of saying it is “a priori.” It is not. In a Brief History of Time it seems that the Big Bang believers actual do use “a priori.”

Again, I do not know, but it seems that there are accredited scientists with Ph. D.s that do not accept the Big Bang. I am not sure, but I think that in the documentary Expelled, Stein interviews some of them.

In other words, the jury is really still out, in my limited comprehension of the math and science.

The philosophy, not the religion and theology,is against the Big Bang without a designer.

Therefore there are really two Big Bangs, one designed, one that is self-caused. Really, really, really, really big differences in the two.

Also, there are galaxies and stars coming at us by the billions upon billions. I know that the percentage is really, really small. But they are coming at us. Oh, it could easily be in the trillions upon trillions.

Also, we have not witnessed the edges of the physical universe. This is a really, really, really big point, in my judgment, limited as it is.

Again, the Big Bang theory put forth by A Brief History of Time, will not allow philosophy in the area of the origin of the universe. Human reason created math, science, technology,logic and philosophy. To exclude it is unreasonable.

 

[runningdude]

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seems that there are accredited scientists with Ph. D.s that do not accept the Big Bang. I am not sure, but I think that in the documentary Expelled, Stein interviews some of them.

In other words, the jury is really still out, in my limited comprehension of the math and science.

There are a few competing theories which have garnered some academic support. A large minority are pursuing research into a “Big Crunch” theory, which suggests a never ending cycle of universes forming and collapsing unto themselves over the course of billions of years. This idea has, I believe, the rather obvious flaw that it denies the doctrine that universe had a defined beginning.

My point that just because not all astrophysicist promote the Big Bang theory doesn’t mean that they support a more “Christian-friendly” version of events.

 

[runningdude]

Again, the Big Bang theory put forth by A Brief History of Time, will not allow philosophy in the area of the origin of the universe. Human reason created math, science, technology,logic and philosophy. To exclude it is unreasonable.

I haven’t seen this particular documentary, so it may very well have an un-Christian agenda, but most scientists are neutral to religion. They simply pursue a line of inquiry and see where it goes.

These scientists handle a staggering array of data, much of it extremely subtle and difficult to communicate outside of the astronomy community. They are tracking millions, if not billions of stars an galaxies, analyzing multiple spectra of light, and are plugin numbers into terrifyingly long equations. Other astronomers have the background knowledge to understand and criticize their conclusions, but outsiders without the educational background might not be able to do so. Heck, I have an engineering degree, and I can’t fathom every they do!

As for excluding philosophy from the mix, it really depends on the discipline involved. Theology for example is the exclusive domain of the Catholic Church, an institution created by God Himself. We really don’t have much of a need to explore philosophy too much (so much “modern” philosophy is used to justify immoral behavior).

Studying time and space however is basically a mechanical art. It does not add or subtract directly to our knowledge of God, just the workings of our universe. I don’t see any need to add philosophy to astronomy, but maybe their is a need to better communicate the limits of the discipline of astronomy in matters of faith.

 

[Jim_Baur]

Steven Hawking wrote the book A Brief History of Time. I read it twice, at least.

The documentary Expelled is done by Ben Stein.

I have watched Expelled once, so I am not all that certain of what it does. But one of the themes is not all scientists agree. There is logomachy and internecine battles in science.

Again, there are accredited scientists who do not accept the Big Bang. Also, they do not accept seven days creation account as a scientific treatise. Where that places them, I do not know. I think that the jury is for from out.

runningdude,
thanks!

Thanks for your patience and kindness.