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Isambard
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ID is not a theory. They’ve effectively legalized teaching religion as science which will be a redardant for the these kids in the future.
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strugglingalong
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What in Intelligent Design theory makes it religion? How is the idea that it would take an intelligent being to create complex creatures religion? It is a logical conclusion based on facts. What makes it religious in nature?ID is not a theory. They’ve effectively legalized teaching religion as science which will be a redardant for the these kids in the future.
Pax Christi tecum.
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Isambard
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First off. ID is not a theory in scientific usage.What in Intelligent Design theory makes it religion? How is the idea that it would take an intelligent being to create complex creatures religion? It is a logical conclusion based on facts. What makes it religious in nature?
Pax Christi tecum.
“In scientific usage, a theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. It originates from or is supported by rigorous observations in the natural world, or by experimental evidence (see scientific method). In this sense, a theory is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations, and is predictive, logical, and testable. In principle, scientific theories are always tentative, and subject to corrections, inclusion in a yet wider theory, or succession. Commonly, many more specific hypotheses may be logically bound together by just one or two theories. As a rule for use of the term, theories tend to deal with much broader sets of universals than do hypotheses, which ordinarily deal with much more specific sets of phenomena or specific applications of a theory.”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory#Science
ID is not falsifiable, it is not testable, makes no predictions, produces no research, no peer review/publishing in scientific journals, and ID paper dont follow the scientific method.
ID is not a science then, it is a religion as it appeals to superstition.
For more info.
youtube.com/watch?v=xO7IT81h200
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reggieM
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Some scientists do not share your opinion.ID is not a theory. They’ve effectively legalized teaching religion as science which will be a redardant for the these kids in the future.
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edwest2
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A retardant in the future? How so? I have yet to see any proof that anything at all negative will happen. If there’s no legitimate science behind it, why worry? Sunday schools have been teaching kids that God created for the better part of 200 years in the US. Clearly, the implication is to abandon God, the science aspect is secondary or just not important at all.
I find it harder and harder to believe that most here are concerned about science in any way, shape or form, but have cordoned off public schools, watching 24 hours a day unless someone should attempt to ‘sneak in’ ID.
Peace,
Ed
I find it harder and harder to believe that most here are concerned about science in any way, shape or form, but have cordoned off public schools, watching 24 hours a day unless someone should attempt to ‘sneak in’ ID.
Peace,
Ed
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Just_Lurking
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What do those scientists say the testable predictions of ID are?Some scientists do not share your opinion.
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Orogeny
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Why the quotation marks, reggie? Would you identify yourself as a “Catholic”, quotation marks and all?I asked a “Catholic” scientist here on CAF about that and he really had no idea why 70% of scientists identify themselves as atheist.
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reggieM
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The quotations marks mean “self-identified”, or “a person who calls himself a Catholic”.Why the quotation marks, reggie? Would you identify yourself as a “Catholic”, quotation marks and all?
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No, I wouldn’t identify myself that way.
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Orogeny
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Why not? We just have your word that you are Catholic. I accept your word. Do you still not accept mine?The quotations marks mean “self-identified”, or “a person who calls himself a Catholic”.
No, I wouldn’t identify myself that way.
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reggieM
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I accept what you said, but I don’t know if it’s true or not.Why not? We just have your word that you are Catholic. I accept your word. Do you still not accept mine?
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Tim
Normally, I would just accept that you are a believing Catholic. But you did say …
Additionally you said:I guess I should be happy that your idea of orthodoxy isn’t the rule for all of us.
So again, without any additional information I don’t really know what you mean when you say you are a Catholic.I don’t agree with what you consider to be a good Catholic
Additionally, I wouldn’t say that you fully accept my word that I am a Catholic – although you may have a very broad defintion of the term.
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Orogeny
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Well, I do fully accept your word that you are Catholic.Additionally, I wouldn’t say that you fully accept my word that I am a Catholic – although you may have a very broad defintion of the term.
I accept the full teaching of the Church. I believe every single word of the Creed.
You may have your own definition of what a real Catholic is, but I am confident that the Church would have no problem with my claim.
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reggieM
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Ok, that’s all I was wondering about and that helps very much. Thanks. You seemed to question my orthodoxy so I didn’t know what you believed or not.I accept the full teaching of the Church. I believe every single word of the Creed.
You’re a Catholic scientist and that is very good to know.
As I said elsewhere, I don’t want to press you on your personal beliefs or attitudes on things like how you respond to atheism or the implications of Darwinian theory with regards to Faith.
I referred to you indirectly here because I didn’t know where you really stand before. I appreciate the clarification.
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