Science & Religion

[You]

On the grounds that first, it was not exactly “soft tissue” but the degraded fragments of same; second, that it was found in rock reliably dated at about 68 million years old. Soft tissue does not survive under most conditions. Now an exception has been found. It will take more than one exception in one field to overturn the evidence for an old earth from many fields repeatedly confirmed, all of which corroborate each other.

What does

degraded fragments of same

mean?

 

[You]

Sorry, but I find Celtic mythology no more credible than Hebrew mythology or Norse mythology or any other mythology. They are fun stories, but irrelevant to reality. When you can investigate the real world and find out what happened, you don’t need to make up stories about it.

You don’t believe in the bronze-age and the Iron-age?

 

[You]

That’s not what happened. Mammoths didn’t die out because they drowned in a flood, nor did dinosaurs or Neanderthals and I never heard that’s how they died out. Maybe in history animals died in floods but that’s about it.

England…

 

[StAnastasia]

If Noahs flood was local then as you say God must have broken His promise, which I do not agree with. Since He left the rainbow with us to remind us of that promise.

The rainbow is a prismatic effect of sunlight on water droplets, that on earth antedated Noah’s flood by several billion years.

 

[You]

The rainbow is a prismatic effect of sunlight on water droplets, that on earth antedated Noah’s flood by several billion years.

That does not change the fact that it was a reminder of His promise.

 

[StAnastasia]

Thanks for the compliment. I attribute it to my innate wackiness, which I wouldn’t presume to attribute to God; but who knows? There is the platypus, after all.
Interesting point about the negative approach… May I ask what theologians?

SGWessells, it was Bishop John Wilkins, Principles and Duties of Natural Religion (1677):

“If it be said that none of these proofs do so infallibly conclude, but that there does still remain a possibility that the thing may be otherwise: to this I have showed before, that there may be an indubitable certainty, where there is not an infallible certainty, and that a mere possibility to the contrary is not a sufficient cause of doubting.”

 

[Lui]

If Noahs flood was local then as you say God must have broken His promise, which I do not agree with. Since He left the rainbow with us to remind us of that promise.

I actually thought you considered the story as Noah as symbolism but at the end of the day you’re just a bible literalist who actually believes that the story is historical fact.

The promise with the rainbow deserves an extra

England…

When did Noah live according to you? I’m pretty sure England was never under water during the period humans showed up in England which is about 40000 years ago, The Neanderthal showed up in England around 130000 years ago until about 30000 years ago…

 

[StAnastasia]

When did Noah live according to you? I’m pretty sure England was never under water during the period humans showed up in England which is about 40000 years ago, The Neanderthal showed up in England around 130000 years ago until about 30000 years ago…

Lui, if You is a literalist and counts his generations right, the global flood was much more recent than 30,000 years.

 

[tonyrey]

It seems you don’t want to commit yourself to an explanation of the precise scope of science but your reference to magic and the possible elimination of free will leaves the impression that no other explanation of human activity should be considered. That is not surprising because many scientists are not prepared to limit the scope of their subject - even though science is clearly incapable of explaining itself! The religion plays for such scientists in interpreting reality seems neglible and hardly distinguishable from deism…

Correction:

The role that religion plays for such scientists in interpreting reality seems negligible and hardly distinguishable from deism…

 

[Lui]

Lui, if You is a literalist and counts his generations right, the global flood was much more recent than 30,000 years.

I have to admit he lost me. His repeating that all land was under water at some period of the history of the earth made me believe that he meant the story of Noah was a symbolic story and there was never a global flood but at different times each part of the earth was covered by water. Now that it sounds like he ACTUALLY believes in Noah, his ship, the global flood and the rainbow.
England was never under water in the last 30,000 years.

 

[StAnastasia]

I have to admit he lost me. His repeating that all land was under water at some period of the history of the earth made me believe that he meant the story of Noah was a symbolic story and there was never a global flood but at different times each part of the earth was covered by water. Now that it sounds like he ACTUALLY believes in Noah, his ship, the global flood and the rainbow.
England was never under water in the last 30,000 years.

Mt. Shasta in northern California was never under water at any time during the last 595,000 years.

 

[Rachel_Malloy]

This thread is now closed as it is well over the advised 1000 post limit for threads.

Please continue the discussion with charity.

God bless-