Fitzer wasn’t and its irrelevant. When he said the universe he means all quantifiable physical activity. Even if he thinks the known universe is all there is (not everyone thinks there is a multiverse) metaphysics as a method is not dependent on scientific discovery in-order to achieve genuine knowledge about the act of existence since it deals with existence as an act in general and not particular physical activities.If that were true, Spitzer/Fitzer would not have needed to constrain physics to the known universe (as he did in the quote I provided.)
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I don’t believe in a supernatural** realm**. I believe in the existence of beings that are not physical.You believe there is a realm of the supernatural, right? And that it is inhabited by supernatural beings, right?
So you don’t believe in the feast of Christ the King?I don’t believe in a supernatural** realm**. I believe in the existence of beings that are not physical.
An important point to address. I am thinking that this world may be considered unnatural in that sin has put it out of sync with what would be our natural place. As part of the ensuing “Babelish” consequences, we are subject to arguments such as these. I am positive Kappa has absolutely no idea what he means when he writes something like “supernatural realm”. My guess would be something vague and cartoonish, having to do with ghosts and witches, connoting “superstition”. It is important to be on the same page when there is disagreement. In this case one should know specifically what the person means by a “supernatural realm”. Are the intellect, love, knowledge, courage considered part of that realm, as that should be if the physical is synonymous with nature?. . . “My kingdom is not of this world” - Jesus
This is an equivocation on the definition of “natural.” When I say “natural” I do not mean nature in the sense of “the way things are intended to be” but in the “the world as accessible to us” sense.An important point to address. I am thinking that this world may be considered unnatural in that sin has put it out of sync with what would be our natural place.
And do these non-physical beings exist entirely inside of the physical world? If not, then the part of them that does not exist inside the physical world must exist in some other realm, right?I don’t believe in a supernatural** realm**. I believe in the existence of beings that are not physical.
There is not a space apart from this world where they reside. They are simply beings with no physical nature. What is a realm that is not physical? These beings are not physical, so ideas like existing in a particular place or space or realm does not apply to them; they just exist.And do these non-physical beings exist entirely inside of the physical world? If not, then the part of them that does not exist inside the physical world must exist in some other realm, right?
Ah yes, I see. They can not have a physical location, because that is an inherently physical relationship. They can not be involved in physical cause or effect, because that is an inherently physical relationship.There is not a space apart from this world where they reside. They are simply beings with no physical nature. What is a realm that is not physical?
They don’t inhabit a realm. But sure, they are distinct from physical natures.a realm whose inhabitants are distinguished from one another by whatever respect makes them distinct.