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psyche23
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Are there any Scientologists on this forum that can help explain some of your beliefs???
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StBenMom
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Good question! I have often wondered how a science fiction writer could start a “religion” that has gotten as big as Scientology.
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psyche23
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Ya, I’m just sorry there isn’t too many posts on this just yet. Fingers crossed right???
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StBenMom
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In the meantime, maybe some of these links will help.
Does Anyone Know What Scientology Is?
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=210187
Scientology Weddings: F.A.Q.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=119496
The first link has several external links to sites that might help. Crossing my fingers with you!!
Does Anyone Know What Scientology Is?
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=210187
Scientology Weddings: F.A.Q.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=119496
The first link has several external links to sites that might help. Crossing my fingers with you!!
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psyche23
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Wow! 
It’s hard to believe all that! That one person so screwed up could influence so many people so easily and no one bothered to look up his factual history… Those links are just INSANE!!! Thanks for posting them…
It’s hard to believe all that! That one person so screwed up could influence so many people so easily and no one bothered to look up his factual history… Those links are just INSANE!!! Thanks for posting them…
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holdencaulfield
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These fake religions are really evil. They give people a false sense of hope in something that is a lie, when they should be leading the lost towards God.
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dolphinlove
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This religion is a plague waiting to happen.
I dont know how people believe in it, its crazy.
Do all these hollywood types just have too much money and not enough sense???
its scary to think they can actually think they can save this earth… well thats according to Tom Cruise on one of his scientology rants…
I dont know how people believe in it, its crazy.
Do all these hollywood types just have too much money and not enough sense???
its scary to think they can actually think they can save this earth… well thats according to Tom Cruise on one of his scientology rants…
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holdencaulfield
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It’s so sickening that this cult convinces people to belief (and pay money) on this nonsense. Famous people think that they are cool for joining a cult, thats why they do it.
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thistle
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Its only called a “religion” because the group gets tax breaks. Its nothing more than a nonsensical control cult!
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MSParrott
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From what very little I know about this cult (and that’s exactly what it is), I can’t believe some people actually believe this garbage. I’m going to check these links out later today when I get home from work. Morbid curiosity, I guess.In the meantime, maybe some of these links will help.
Does Anyone Know What Scientology Is?
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=210187
Scientology Weddings: F.A.Q.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=119496
The first link has several external links to sites that might help. Crossing my fingers with you!!
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Auriel
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Scientology is a cult. L. Ron Hubbard was also heavily involved in the Occult. One of his favorite book was the writings of Alister Crowley, his “Book of the Law”
He was also witness to the great “Babylon Working” which is still considered the greatest occult working ever. Very depraved.
Here is a WIKI article that barely scratches the surface. It was much worse than they describe, it also involved animal sacrifice. What I always found interesting is that it was after that when the first rash of aliens and UFO sightings began.
Many believe that they were successful but could not close the rip in the veil they had opened.
Jack Parsons, a participant, was a great scientist working on several projects for the government at the time.
He was also witness to the great “Babylon Working” which is still considered the greatest occult working ever. Very depraved.
Here is a WIKI article that barely scratches the surface. It was much worse than they describe, it also involved animal sacrifice. What I always found interesting is that it was after that when the first rash of aliens and UFO sightings began.
Many believe that they were successful but could not close the rip in the veil they had opened.
Jack Parsons, a participant, was a great scientist working on several projects for the government at the time.
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holdencaulfield
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In Germany they are considered a cult, and don’t get tax breaks.
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PoliSciProf
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Here’s an article from the New Yorker (1/14/08) about the famous scientology home base, the Hollywood castle and its strategy of targeting celebrities. It is very revealing and for me confirms its cult status.
newyorker.com/reporting/2008/01/14/080114fa_fact_goodyear
newyorker.com/reporting/2008/01/14/080114fa_fact_goodyear
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hopelessrom_grl
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how can people actually believe something that is clearly like a fiction story?
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albert_n
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What you guys have to understand about scientology is, all the crazy stuff does not appear for a long time. Mention aliens or xenu to 95 percent of scientologists and they honestly wont know what you are talking about.
That’s how people end up believing it. You have to be a good 100 k worth of auditing in to get to that stuff, and you are slowly eased into it up until that point OT3 where the aliens come in. They call OT 3 the ‘wall of fire’.
Its like the way you humanely cook a lobster, you slowly raise the heat rather than droping them into boiling water, and they don’t even know its happening. There are ballpark no more than 5000 scientologists at the level of OT. And a lot of those only afford it by signing their lives and souls away to the SEA ORG, whose billion year contract (not kidding) means that coming out is very hard. Sure you can choose to leave, but, then you have to pay for all the courses you got free or at reduced price. How many people making 20-30 dollars a week in the sea org can afford a six figure bill for leaving? Not many, thats why the freeloaders debt is such a powerful tool for them.
Scientologists are by and large good people. They are people who are being told they can make the world better, and who honestly do want to. Because of the way the religion is structured, they cant just peek at the high level stuff, because if they do, they believe they will die of a pneumonia like disease.
By making low level scientologists aware of the shadier aspects of the faith, they can hopefully feel the boiling water, and get out of the pot.
You guys are smart, you know how to google and check wikipedia for stuff like ‘scientology controversies’
Anyone who wants to make a peaceful stand, don a mask or otherwise hide your identity for your own safety, and visit your local COS on march 15th or any month after on a date that will be made widely known to you. You wont be going alone.
That’s how people end up believing it. You have to be a good 100 k worth of auditing in to get to that stuff, and you are slowly eased into it up until that point OT3 where the aliens come in. They call OT 3 the ‘wall of fire’.
Its like the way you humanely cook a lobster, you slowly raise the heat rather than droping them into boiling water, and they don’t even know its happening. There are ballpark no more than 5000 scientologists at the level of OT. And a lot of those only afford it by signing their lives and souls away to the SEA ORG, whose billion year contract (not kidding) means that coming out is very hard. Sure you can choose to leave, but, then you have to pay for all the courses you got free or at reduced price. How many people making 20-30 dollars a week in the sea org can afford a six figure bill for leaving? Not many, thats why the freeloaders debt is such a powerful tool for them.
Scientologists are by and large good people. They are people who are being told they can make the world better, and who honestly do want to. Because of the way the religion is structured, they cant just peek at the high level stuff, because if they do, they believe they will die of a pneumonia like disease.
By making low level scientologists aware of the shadier aspects of the faith, they can hopefully feel the boiling water, and get out of the pot.
You guys are smart, you know how to google and check wikipedia for stuff like ‘scientology controversies’
Anyone who wants to make a peaceful stand, don a mask or otherwise hide your identity for your own safety, and visit your local COS on march 15th or any month after on a date that will be made widely known to you. You wont be going alone.
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LDNCatholic
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Is it really necessary to hide my face? The freaks I met outside the scientology office in London back in October tried to intimidate me with angry faces and confusing words when I called them members of a murderous cult.
As the two of them came a little too close for comfort I introduced them to my ten black belt students standing behind them. Was quite funny to see their faces change and suddenly the arguement dissapated.
Oh it was a good day
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As the two of them came a little too close for comfort I introduced them to my ten black belt students standing behind them. Was quite funny to see their faces change and suddenly the arguement dissapated.
Oh it was a good day
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LDNCatholic
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psyche it all depends on how much money you’re willing to shell out. Got a spare hundred grand?
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albert_n
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Yes, you absolutly need to conceal your identity. Use a mask, use large glasses a hat and scarf, whatever.
If you go without concealing your identity, you are not only taking your future into your hands, you are taking your familys future too.
Most of the 10000 world wide protesters on february 10th concealed their identity. Some didn’t. They are now paying the price for that mistake in the form of scientology’s fair game policy.
This policy states that an enemy of scientology can be lied to and destroyed without remorse. If you are wondering why the anonymous protesters wear masks, its because of fair game.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology
We have video evidence from those unlucky enough to be identified of private investigators tailing them when they are giving out flyers. We have a guy working in a communications job who is currently being followed, having false complaints filed against him at work, and also most distressingly, his wheelshair bound mother was followed, and then confronted by the strangers and told to say hi to the target for them.
This is very very light stuff, compared to what the old critics, who were fighting these guys more or less alone for decades had to deal with. Paulette cooper wrote a book criticizing scientology, they ruined her life. No more, no less.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout
To this day they still harass critics using fake companies, like
the religious freedom watch and the cult awareness network, which was a strong critic of scientology until it was bankrupted by them and then taken over.
cultawarenessnetwork.org/
If you want to be framed for bomb threats, have people drop flyers into your neighbours mail boxes saying you are a drug addict or child molester, by all means, don’t wear a mask.
Protip.
WEAR A MASK.
These guys successfully infiltrated the US GOVERNMENT , and many other governments in the 80’s., then sued the irs into giving them better tax cuts than any other religion in the US. They are masters of abusing the system. Masters of stomping on your rights. But they can only do it if they know who you are.
So please, conceal your identity if you plan to protest. There is no cowardice in it, it is no different to wearing gloves when handling a poisonous snake. That mask is all that will separate you from what is a horrifically powerful legal team, which uses up 80-90 percent of the churches money.
LDN catholic, you are at the stage a lot of people get to. Scientology is to you, that weird thing tom cruise does. This is possibly the most dangerous place to be, because you are flirting with something very very dangerous without even knowing it.
Infact, one of the things that you wont read about so easily is linked below.
geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1896/achubbard.html
factnet.org/Scientology/satanism.htm
So seriously, if that does not make you take them seriously i dont know what will.
Please, wear a mask.
If you go without concealing your identity, you are not only taking your future into your hands, you are taking your familys future too.
Most of the 10000 world wide protesters on february 10th concealed their identity. Some didn’t. They are now paying the price for that mistake in the form of scientology’s fair game policy.
This policy states that an enemy of scientology can be lied to and destroyed without remorse. If you are wondering why the anonymous protesters wear masks, its because of fair game.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology
We have video evidence from those unlucky enough to be identified of private investigators tailing them when they are giving out flyers. We have a guy working in a communications job who is currently being followed, having false complaints filed against him at work, and also most distressingly, his wheelshair bound mother was followed, and then confronted by the strangers and told to say hi to the target for them.
This is very very light stuff, compared to what the old critics, who were fighting these guys more or less alone for decades had to deal with. Paulette cooper wrote a book criticizing scientology, they ruined her life. No more, no less.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout
To this day they still harass critics using fake companies, like
the religious freedom watch and the cult awareness network, which was a strong critic of scientology until it was bankrupted by them and then taken over.
cultawarenessnetwork.org/
If you want to be framed for bomb threats, have people drop flyers into your neighbours mail boxes saying you are a drug addict or child molester, by all means, don’t wear a mask.
Protip.
WEAR A MASK.
These guys successfully infiltrated the US GOVERNMENT , and many other governments in the 80’s., then sued the irs into giving them better tax cuts than any other religion in the US. They are masters of abusing the system. Masters of stomping on your rights. But they can only do it if they know who you are.
So please, conceal your identity if you plan to protest. There is no cowardice in it, it is no different to wearing gloves when handling a poisonous snake. That mask is all that will separate you from what is a horrifically powerful legal team, which uses up 80-90 percent of the churches money.
LDN catholic, you are at the stage a lot of people get to. Scientology is to you, that weird thing tom cruise does. This is possibly the most dangerous place to be, because you are flirting with something very very dangerous without even knowing it.
Infact, one of the things that you wont read about so easily is linked below.
geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1896/achubbard.html
factnet.org/Scientology/satanism.htm
So seriously, if that does not make you take them seriously i dont know what will.
Please, wear a mask.
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LDNCatholic
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Fine fine fine, well If I turn up (hell if they’re reading this they probably already know who I am) I’ll wear my shemagh.
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albert_n
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To the original poster if you want to learn about scientology just listen to some of the things that are part of their religion, said in the voice of the religions own founder L RON.
Like the fact that there was no christ. There are trains on venus, and black people talk to their hats.
au.youtube.com/watch?v=Hakj0mlVhwY&NR=1
Of course, this is the stuff 95 percent of scientology dont know about because they have not paid in enough cash yet. So there is no point arguing it with them.
Like the fact that there was no christ. There are trains on venus, and black people talk to their hats.
au.youtube.com/watch?v=Hakj0mlVhwY&NR=1
Of course, this is the stuff 95 percent of scientology dont know about because they have not paid in enough cash yet. So there is no point arguing it with them.
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