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Well I do know one thing. Dr. Hahn got 220 posts so he must mean something to many people. He’s definitely done alot for a lot of people…teachccd
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i am reading one of my favorite authors right now, Pope Benedict XVI.
i am half way through the book he wrote titled The Apostles. i highly recommend it. especially to notsmart.
i also have one of his books titled Many Religions-One Covenant ----Israel,
the Church and the World. the foreword is by Scott Hahn.
i am learning a lot of things about the apostles i didn’t know, especially andrew.
i am half way through the book he wrote titled The Apostles. i highly recommend it. especially to notsmart.
i also have one of his books titled Many Religions-One Covenant ----Israel,
the Church and the World. the foreword is by Scott Hahn.
i am learning a lot of things about the apostles i didn’t know, especially andrew.
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he had a greek name and he mainly preached to the greeks and he was peter’s brother and he is known as andrew the protoclete. protoclete is the nickname meaning “the first called”. in greek it is protokletos.
the Church in Rome and the Church in Constantinople were seen as sister churches because of the family tie between peter and andrew.
it was andrew who brought Jesus to peter saying “we have found the Messiah”.
there is a lot more, but that is all i am going to put in my post.
the Church in Rome and the Church in Constantinople were seen as sister churches because of the family tie between peter and andrew.
it was andrew who brought Jesus to peter saying “we have found the Messiah”.
there is a lot more, but that is all i am going to put in my post.
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You provided plenty. That is super cool information! I didn’t know any of that. I hear protestants say that Paul alone ministered to the Greeks. This is an interesting point. Is Phillip adopted strongly by the Eastern Orthodox?
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It’s late. I meant to write:
Is Andrew adopted strongly by the Eastern Orthodox?
Is Andrew adopted strongly by the Eastern Orthodox?
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philip and andrew both had greek names. andrew is known as the Apostle
to the Greeks. he was the Apostle to the Greek world.
Pope Paul VI, in 1964, to demonstrate the connection between the two sister churches, returned the important relic of St. Andrew, which had been kept in Rome, to the Orthodox Metropolitan Bishop of the city of Patras, in Greece, where it was said that Andrew was crucified.
the book talks about several instances in the Gospel that andrew is part of.
the chapter is only 6 pages long. the book is not very thick. but it gives a brief story of each of the 12 apostles.
there are also 4 chapters on the origins of the church and 5 chapters on the co-workers of the Apostles.
it is easy to read and shows how the Church was built on the foundation of the Apostles. it answered some questions for me.
to the Greeks. he was the Apostle to the Greek world.
Pope Paul VI, in 1964, to demonstrate the connection between the two sister churches, returned the important relic of St. Andrew, which had been kept in Rome, to the Orthodox Metropolitan Bishop of the city of Patras, in Greece, where it was said that Andrew was crucified.
the book talks about several instances in the Gospel that andrew is part of.
the chapter is only 6 pages long. the book is not very thick. but it gives a brief story of each of the 12 apostles.
there are also 4 chapters on the origins of the church and 5 chapters on the co-workers of the Apostles.
it is easy to read and shows how the Church was built on the foundation of the Apostles. it answered some questions for me.
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masha
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I’m sorry if I left several people hanging, especially in regard to top journals and my own issues with Scott Hahn.
The top theology journals that I have found very solid, and very interesting, are “Communio”, “Modern Theology,” and “The Catholic Philosophical Quarterly” (which is only sometime theological, but very very good). “Homiletic and Pastoral Review” is not 100% theology either, but it is generally very solid.
As I said before, Scott Hahn is not considered a theologian by theologians. He would do better not to present himself as such.
My other issues with him are more related to his attitude and way of presenting himself. I have no issue with him making money (I’m really not sure how that got started) though I do wish he would slow down the book writing and take some time to edit.
Pax et bonum,
Masha
The top theology journals that I have found very solid, and very interesting, are “Communio”, “Modern Theology,” and “The Catholic Philosophical Quarterly” (which is only sometime theological, but very very good). “Homiletic and Pastoral Review” is not 100% theology either, but it is generally very solid.
As I said before, Scott Hahn is not considered a theologian by theologians. He would do better not to present himself as such.
My other issues with him are more related to his attitude and way of presenting himself. I have no issue with him making money (I’m really not sure how that got started) though I do wish he would slow down the book writing and take some time to edit.
Pax et bonum,
Masha
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Hello Masha!
Perhaps I have been wrong about Scott Hahn. I have only read a few of his books and since I don’t even consider myself a scholar I have enjoyed them. Perhaps I am one of the “unsuspecting” and very gullible.
My husband is a recent convert and would like to know if you would kindly name a few theologians who are trustworthy as he is always seeking to learn.
I was under the impression that Steubenville University was a highly respected institution. You said in an earlier post that Hahn teaches theology there. Would he not have to be a theologian to do that?
Please advise and thank you
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Honestly, the best living theologian is our Pope (isn’t that exciting). Read anything by Benedict (Ratzinger). Also, Hans Urs Von Balthasar (its a very intimidating name, but he’s excellent), Augustine (very old, but necessary and beautiful), Guardini is very good as well. There are also plenty of very good, apologetics writers who don’t interject their own speculations into church teaching. If your husband is looking for reliable Catholic books in general, I’d highly recommend Bishop Fulton Sheen, John Paul II, and David Scott’s “The Catholic Passsion.”
Steubenville is a very respected institution, in Catholic circles. But most professors of theology are not theologians in the proper sense. They have studied (and hopefully are still studying) theology, and the can teach the theological ideas that they’ve learned, but they don’t contribute to the field of theological study in any original way…“Those who can’t do, teach.” to use a harsh, and only occasionally true cliche.
I studied at Franciscan University, and enjoyed it. There are some excellent professors, and some not-so-excellent professors; it’s is a good school, but it isn’t prefect.
Pax,
Masha
Steubenville is a very respected institution, in Catholic circles. But most professors of theology are not theologians in the proper sense. They have studied (and hopefully are still studying) theology, and the can teach the theological ideas that they’ve learned, but they don’t contribute to the field of theological study in any original way…“Those who can’t do, teach.” to use a harsh, and only occasionally true cliche.
I studied at Franciscan University, and enjoyed it. There are some excellent professors, and some not-so-excellent professors; it’s is a good school, but it isn’t prefect.
Pax,
Masha
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Thank you very much. You are right Ratzinger is AMAZING and we are so fortunate.
Cheers:wave:
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Andrew is huge in the Eastern Orthodox and Byzantine churches. The name Andrew (Andrzej) is so popular and St. Andrew’s feast (and the eve before) are pretty important.
Pax,
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Well, the OP has your post stating you were skeptical. Why are you skeptical?
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When you say “Scott Hahn is not considered a theologian by theologians”, how do you know this? Dr. Alan Schrek is considered a theologian and surely he and other very good theologians voted to give Dr. Hahn full professor status. Full professor status requires publications in top theological journals.
You are saying this but it appears like unfounded detraction.
You are saying this but it appears like unfounded detraction.
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masha
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Hmm…
What is your definition of theologian, may I ask?
I think this might be our problem.
The definition of Theologian that I’m working from is a very limited one (as it should be really). It’s similar to philosopher:
Sartre is a philospher, though I disagree with most of what he writes, because he has made serious contributions to the study of philosophy. His writing is interesting and exciting in his field, and to those in his field, even if his conclusions are absolutely wretched.
Ratzinger is a theologian because he has made serious contributions to the field of theology. He has taken what was theologically accepted, and brought it to a new level of understanding. Ratzinger also happens to have been a professor of theology, his students were especially blessed.
Most professors of theology and philosophy are not themselves theologians or philosophers, they are students of theology and philosophy who have attained a certain amount of proficiency in the subject.
Scott Hahn and Alan Schrek are professors of theology, not theologians. Though their books can be helpful to non-theologians, they make no significant contributions to their field. Even Scott Hahn’s very speculative ideas are not new, they were tried and rejected many times before.
It sounds very harsh and very closed, but it is a good working definition. It doesn’t mean that Scott Hahn may never become a theologian, he simply hasn’t become one yet, and doesn’t seem inclined to try.
I hope this clears up the confusion. I am not making an unfounded detraction, I just think definitions are given too freely. Scott Hahn can be called an apologist, a Bible scholar, even a doctor of theology, but not a theologian.
Pax,
Masha
What is your definition of theologian, may I ask?
I think this might be our problem.
The definition of Theologian that I’m working from is a very limited one (as it should be really). It’s similar to philosopher:
Sartre is a philospher, though I disagree with most of what he writes, because he has made serious contributions to the study of philosophy. His writing is interesting and exciting in his field, and to those in his field, even if his conclusions are absolutely wretched.
Ratzinger is a theologian because he has made serious contributions to the field of theology. He has taken what was theologically accepted, and brought it to a new level of understanding. Ratzinger also happens to have been a professor of theology, his students were especially blessed.
Most professors of theology and philosophy are not themselves theologians or philosophers, they are students of theology and philosophy who have attained a certain amount of proficiency in the subject.
Scott Hahn and Alan Schrek are professors of theology, not theologians. Though their books can be helpful to non-theologians, they make no significant contributions to their field. Even Scott Hahn’s very speculative ideas are not new, they were tried and rejected many times before.
It sounds very harsh and very closed, but it is a good working definition. It doesn’t mean that Scott Hahn may never become a theologian, he simply hasn’t become one yet, and doesn’t seem inclined to try.
I hope this clears up the confusion. I am not making an unfounded detraction, I just think definitions are given too freely. Scott Hahn can be called an apologist, a Bible scholar, even a doctor of theology, but not a theologian.
Pax,
Masha
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OK. You define theologian as one might philosopher. Being a professor of either theology or philosophy does not make one either a theologian or a philosopher. Yet, one must be a scholar to be a professor of either theology or philosophy.
So, then, we will say that Dr. Hahn is a scholar in theology who regularly publishes in top-tier, peer reviewed publications in his field.
Likewise, we will also declare with this point you make that not ever theologian is a scholar nor a professor of theology.
Sounds reasonable.
So, then, we will say that Dr. Hahn is a scholar in theology who regularly publishes in top-tier, peer reviewed publications in his field.
Likewise, we will also declare with this point you make that not ever theologian is a scholar nor a professor of theology.
Sounds reasonable.
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I would suggest adding Frank Sheed to your list. I recommend two of his books for those interested in theology: Theology For Beginners and the more advanced Theology And Sanity. Sheed has one of the best expositions of the Holy Trinity (IMHO) that I have ever read.
Also, his To Know Christ Jesus is an excellent devotional read.
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I like his book with apologetics training outlines- co-authored with his wife Maisie Ward- also.
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I really have enjoyed reading Scott Hahn 's books.
They have really edified me in my journey in the faith, and he writes simply for everyone to be able to understand the biblical teachings.
God Bless You.
They have really edified me in my journey in the faith, and he writes simply for everyone to be able to understand the biblical teachings.
God Bless You.
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