Scott Hahn's The Lamb's Supper

[iohannes13]

I read Scott Hahn’s book ‘The Lamb’s Supper: The Mass as Heaven on Earth.’ The premise of the book is more or less that the Book of Revelations is actually about the Eucharist and the Mass. According to Hahn, everything has been fulfilled, even Jesus’s promise that he would return before the generation died (1st century disciples). He makes some interesting points, and they do sound pretty but…

Never in my life have I heard Hahn’s interpretation being preached or explained by any priest. Nor had I ever encountered literature explaining Revelations in that way.

For instance, Hahn explains that Jesus kept His promise to those listening to Him that day because He did return in their life-time in the form of the Eucharist. That’s fine I guess, but I was always taught and always read that the Parousia was the promised return. So if, according to Hahn, the promise was already fulfilled and Jesus already returned to Earth, then what are we waiting for?

Are Scott Hahn’s interpretations about Revelations novel ideas or are they rooted in teachings from our Fathers and Doctors of the Church?

 

[Battleaxe]

For instance, Hahn explains that Jesus kept His promise to those listening to Him that day…

So if, according to Hahn, the promise was already fulfilled and Jesus already returned to Earth, [or has remained?] then what are we waiting for?

Now, Jesus is on Earth under the appearances of bread and wine. In the end, though, He will return in His own resurrected and glorified bodily form:

…we shall see Him as He really is. 1 John 3:2

Are Scott Hahn’s interpretations about Revelations novel ideas or are they rooted in teachings from our Fathers and Doctors of the Church?

Probably not official, but Scott doesnt dabble in heresy. His case is strong. As he says, Johns great vision is full of liturgical action: the lampstands, Jesus the Priest in His priestly garb, incense, scrolls etc. All of it would have had meaning to the Christians of that time.
“All Saints Cathedral” in Heaven: says Scott!

 

[cspb56]

I ahve read the book adn found it quite interesting. However, I too have never heard or seen any church documentation supporting his ideas. But again, defiantely food for thought.

 

[odhiambo]

Does the book have the Bishop’s stamp of “Nihil Obstat,” and “Imprimatur” ?

 

[MrTambourineMan]

I have the book but haven’t read it yet. I’m excited to because I’ve read many Scott Hahn’s books and learned very much. He’s very smart, I would think he knows what he’s talking about.

 

[MrTambourineMan]

Does the book have the Bishop’s stamp of “Nihil Obstat,” and “Imprimatur” ?

I don’t think so, but he’s highly regarded in the Church. He has received many episcopal endorsements.

 

[odhiambo]

I don’t think so, but he’s highly regarded in the Church. He has received many episcopal endorsements.

I see. I have the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible which has commentary from him and Curtis Mitch. I have also read his book " A Father Who Keeps His Promises", and found to be an excellent book. I will try and get a copy of “The Lamb’s Supper” and read for myself.
Thanks for the info.

 

[KScoyote]

I don’t think so, but he’s highly regarded in the Church. He has received many episcopal endorsements.

Yes!

This book has:

Nihil Obstat = Rev. James Dunfee, Censor Librorum

Imprimatur = Most Rev. Gilbert Sheldon, Bishop of Stubenville

I have read it and would recommend it and any of Scott’s books.

 

[iohannes13]

Probably not official, but Scott doesn`t dabble in heresy.

I’m not saying he’s wrong. Everything in his book sounds and looks good except I just don’t understand how Jesus kept His promise to the first century disciples in the manner that Scott Hahn explained. “Generation” could have meant any number of things. I think he’s really pushing it with that one. But what do I know.

I’m just curious if any Church Fathers or Doctors of the Church had similar interpretations of the Book of Revelations.

 

[LucyLou]

Jeff Cavin has an excellent bible study on the book of Revelations, it is at Ascension Press. I highly recommend obtaining it and reading through his material and watching the videos. Jeff’s material complements Hahn’s material and supplements it. You need to understand to whom St John writing to in the early church and what was going on in the early church and the context in which it was written in order to understand the message of Revelation. Don’t stop with Hahn’s book, do some more studying, you will find what you are seeking.

 

[KScoyote]

Jeff Cavin has an excellent bible study on the book of Revelations, it is at Ascension Press. I highly recommend obtaining it and reading through his material and watching the videos. Jeff’s material complements Hahn’s material and supplements it. You need to understand to whom St John writing to in the early church and what was going on in the early church and the context in which it was written in order to understand the message of Revelation. Don’t stop with Hahn’s book, do some more studying, you will find what you are seeking.

I agree. My wife and I have gone through Jeff’s Revelation video series and it is a “Great Adventure”.

He has many other “Great Adventure” studies that equally great.

 

[babs57]

I read Scott Hahn’s book ‘The Lamb’s Supper: The Mass as Heaven on Earth.’ The premise of the book is more or less that the Book of Revelations is actually about the Eucharist and the Mass. According to Hahn, everything has been fulfilled, even Jesus’s promise that he would return before the generation died (1st century disciples). He makes some interesting points, and they do sound pretty but…

Never in my life have I heard Hahn’s interpretation being preached or explained by any priest. Nor had I ever encountered literature explaining Revelations in that way.

For instance, Hahn explains that Jesus kept His promise to those listening to Him that day because He did return in their life-time in the form of the Eucharist. That’s fine I guess, but I was always taught and always read that the Parousia was the promised return. So if, according to Hahn, the promise was already fulfilled and Jesus already returned to Earth, then what are we waiting for?

Are Scott Hahn’s interpretations about Revelations novel ideas or are they rooted in teachings from our Fathers and Doctors of the Church?

“The Parousia is the highest intensification and fulfillment of the Liturgy. And the Liturgy is Parousia, a Parousia-like event taking place in our midst.” -Joseph Ratzinger, Eschatology, p202

I know he’s not an early church father, but he should know what the church teaches. Hope that helps.