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captainmike
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can someone point me to the scriptural support for us re-presenting christ’s body and blood to God, as we do in every Mass. Thanks.
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Corki
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I recommend “The Lamb’s Supper” by Scott Hahn and “Worthy is the Lamb” by Thomas Nash.
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ckbrown
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1 Corinthians 11:23-26, the basis for “Do this in memory of Me” as requested by Jesus
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jean29
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mike,
See 1Cor.11:24-26 Verse 26 reads For whenever you eat this bread and DRINKS this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.
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Mt.26 26-27. I hope you will read these passages.
God bless,
Jean
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Luke65
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And here is where it was prophesied:
“For from the rising of the sun to its setting My name shall be great among the nations, and in every place incense shall be offered to My name, and indeed a pure offering; for My name shall be great among the nations, says the Lord of hosts.” (Malachi 1:11)
And only the Catholic Church, the universal Church of Christ, fulfills this prophecy. And here is much more:
scripturecatholic.com/the_eucharist.html
“For from the rising of the sun to its setting My name shall be great among the nations, and in every place incense shall be offered to My name, and indeed a pure offering; for My name shall be great among the nations, says the Lord of hosts.” (Malachi 1:11)
And only the Catholic Church, the universal Church of Christ, fulfills this prophecy. And here is much more:
scripturecatholic.com/the_eucharist.html
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Br.Rich_SFO
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Mal 1:11
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bpbasilphx
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And only the Catholic Church, the universal Church of Christ, fulfills this prophecy. And here is much more:
So do Orthodox and the non-Chalcedonian Eastern Churches. And they are much more likely to be using incense than the typical Latin church.
So do Orthodox and the non-Chalcedonian Eastern Churches. And they are much more likely to be using incense than the typical Latin church.
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Luke65
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Actually, the Orthodox churches don’t fulfill the prophecy. They are nationalized for the most part, the U.S., the “melting pot”, being the major exception. The Russian Orthodox Church is not in “every place” - the Catholic Church is.
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JJ59
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"For from the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts."
-Malachi 1:11
"I am the bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the desert, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven; that if any man eat of it, he may not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world.The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat? Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him."
-John 6:48-57
"For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, ‘This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.’ In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, ‘This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.’ For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes."
-1 Corinthians 11:23-26
Those are only a few, but it definitely shows that the Mass is entirely biblical, and was practiced in the early church.
God Bless,
-Malachi 1:11
"I am the bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the desert, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven; that if any man eat of it, he may not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world.The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat? Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him."
-John 6:48-57
"For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, ‘This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.’ In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, ‘This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.’ For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes."
-1 Corinthians 11:23-26
Those are only a few, but it definitely shows that the Mass is entirely biblical, and was practiced in the early church.
God Bless,
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Todd_Easton
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Also see 1 Corinthians 10:14-22, where the Eucharistic sacrifice and Pagan sacrifices are contrasted.
And 1 Corinthians 5:7-8, where the celebration of the Eucharistic sacrifice is compared to celebration of the Old Testament Paschal (Passover) sacrifice.
And 1 Corinthians 5:7-8, where the celebration of the Eucharistic sacrifice is compared to celebration of the Old Testament Paschal (Passover) sacrifice.
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SonofMonica
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+1 on the Scott Hahn book – a must read!!!
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ryanoneil
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The other references are great. Here is another.
The main point of what has been said is this: we have such a high priest, who has taken his seat at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, a minister of the sanctuary and of the true tabernacle that the Lord, not man, set up. Now every high priest is appointed to offer gifts and sacrifices; thus the necessity for this one also to have something to offer. (Heb 8:1-3)
Jesus is described as “High Priest.” But in order to be a priest, “it is necessary for Him to have something to offer.” As minister in the sanctuary He is offering up (present tense) His eternal sacrifice to the Father which is perfected in heaven.
Therefore, it was necessary for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified by these rites, but the heavenly things themselves by better sacrifices than these. For Christ did not enter into a sanctuary made by hands, a copy of the true one, but heaven itself, that he might now appear before God on our behalf. Not that he might offer himself repeatedly, as the high priest enters each year into the sanctuary with blood that is not his own; if that were so, he would have had to suffer repeatedly from the foundation of the world. But now once for all he has appeared at the end of the ages to take away sin by his sacrifice. (Heb 9:23-26)
Jesus’ sacrifice, which is presented eternally to the Father in heaven, is described as “sacrifices” (in the plural) in the context of its re-presentation on earth. “Once for all,” refers to Jesus’ appearance in heaven, which is perpetual, and also refers to Jesus’ suffering and death (never to be repeated). “Once for all” never refers to Jesus’ sacrifice, which is eternally presented to the Father. Through our celebration of the Mass we enter the sanctuary and join Jesus’ perpetual sacrifice.
Therefore, brothers, since through the blood of Jesus we have confidence of entrance into the sanctuary by the new and living way he opened for us through the veil, that is, his flesh, and since we have “a great priest over the house of God,” let us approach with a sincere heart and in absolute trust, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed in pure water. (Heb 10:19-22)
No, you have approached Mount Zion and the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and countless angels in festal gathering, and the assembly of the firstborn enrolled in heaven, and God the judge of all, and the spirits of the just made perfect, and Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and the sprinkled blood that speaks more eloquently than that of Abel. (Heb 12:22-24)
The main point of what has been said is this: we have such a high priest, who has taken his seat at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, a minister of the sanctuary and of the true tabernacle that the Lord, not man, set up. Now every high priest is appointed to offer gifts and sacrifices; thus the necessity for this one also to have something to offer. (Heb 8:1-3)
Jesus is described as “High Priest.” But in order to be a priest, “it is necessary for Him to have something to offer.” As minister in the sanctuary He is offering up (present tense) His eternal sacrifice to the Father which is perfected in heaven.
Therefore, it was necessary for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified by these rites, but the heavenly things themselves by better sacrifices than these. For Christ did not enter into a sanctuary made by hands, a copy of the true one, but heaven itself, that he might now appear before God on our behalf. Not that he might offer himself repeatedly, as the high priest enters each year into the sanctuary with blood that is not his own; if that were so, he would have had to suffer repeatedly from the foundation of the world. But now once for all he has appeared at the end of the ages to take away sin by his sacrifice. (Heb 9:23-26)
Jesus’ sacrifice, which is presented eternally to the Father in heaven, is described as “sacrifices” (in the plural) in the context of its re-presentation on earth. “Once for all,” refers to Jesus’ appearance in heaven, which is perpetual, and also refers to Jesus’ suffering and death (never to be repeated). “Once for all” never refers to Jesus’ sacrifice, which is eternally presented to the Father. Through our celebration of the Mass we enter the sanctuary and join Jesus’ perpetual sacrifice.
Therefore, brothers, since through the blood of Jesus we have confidence of entrance into the sanctuary by the new and living way he opened for us through the veil, that is, his flesh, and since we have “a great priest over the house of God,” let us approach with a sincere heart and in absolute trust, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed in pure water. (Heb 10:19-22)
No, you have approached Mount Zion and the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and countless angels in festal gathering, and the assembly of the firstborn enrolled in heaven, and God the judge of all, and the spirits of the just made perfect, and Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and the sprinkled blood that speaks more eloquently than that of Abel. (Heb 12:22-24)
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Luke65
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Great post, Ryan, and let me add this verse, which often gets overlooked:
“But I have written very boldly to you on some points so as to remind you again, because of the grace that was given me from God, to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles, ministering as a priest the gospel of God, so that my offering of the Gentiles may become acceptable, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.” - St. Paul (Romans 15:15-16 NASB)
“But I have written very boldly to you on some points so as to remind you again, because of the grace that was given me from God, to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles, ministering as a priest the gospel of God, so that my offering of the Gentiles may become acceptable, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.” - St. Paul (Romans 15:15-16 NASB)
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