Scripture Calls for Inmate Rights

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We are told to be a “voice to the voiceless, a defense for the defenseless”.
One sadly underrepresented group is prison and jail inmates. The main issue I’m bringing to the table is advocacy for humane medical and psychiatric care and medication administration that each rehabilitation facility is STRICTLY FORCED to provide inmates from day 1 of incarceration on.
Currently inmates are most often denied access to regular medications ordered at home and the mentally ill can be refused necessary medications for any length of time or at all for no reason!
It should be law that psychiatric patients are provided ALL formerly prescribed medications from the very first day they arrive until they leave!
Is this an issue that one could safely say is widely agreed upon by Catholics?
I work in legal activism so any other suggestions for inmate rights that need to be supported or enforced? Please let me know!
 
That is shocking to read that inmates in the US are having their medications witheld.
In the UK prisoners are given their medications as prescribed by their doctor.

It is good for us all to remember the Corporal works of mercy and visit and care for inmates.There is a prayer thread going for all prisoners and their families in the prayers intention forum

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=9921775#post9921775

Prayers are so very important. If you or anyone else would like to join us in prayer for all prisoners and their families please do join us.You will be very welcome!

I very much feel inmates need to have their human rights stood up for.

God bless
 
Yeah, let them make phone calls for free. They charge an insane amount to use the phone. Some of them can’t even talk to their lawyers on the phone, this hurts their defense. Plus, they can’t talk to their family. I’m talking about people who haven’t even been convicted of a crime or even been arraigned.

Let them have a day with their wives every once in a while, wow. Our judgment is not perfect and innocent men have spent life in prison while their wives were almost forced to become adulterers. Family day once a week sounds acceptable. I forget which state it is, but once a year they actually let them have a cabin with their family if they have good conduct. They should do this everywhere. Not only would most of the discipline problems all but dissipate, but it is just the right thing to do. They do have to be judged by God, all we are supposed to be doing here is protecting society.

People don’t understand. It is supposed to be about protecting society not vengeance. We are supposed to rehabillitate not punish.

Stop forcing people to break the rules in prison. Also, let them have cell phones wow what is the big deal. We can keep letting people make a killing smuggle them in, and force the tax payers to pay more for their incarceration after they get caught smuggling them in OR - we could just let them have them.

To be honest, never mind. You are wasting your time. These people out here are cold-hearted and judgmental they will not listen to any form of reason. It is a racket after all.
 
Oh and also let them take showers individually instead of in groups. This is a common sense thing. Some are gay in there and some are killers in there. Some are both. Should we allow anyone to get killed or raped? They were judged by humans not God. Remember that.

Also,for people unmarried in there, why not let the male and female prisons visit? Come on people this is very very very simple stuff. Who cares about the contraband issue? Stop the violence. If you can hold that over the inmates head how much of a freaking discipline issue do you think you will have?

Oh and food! If they manage to scrounge up the change why not let them order pizza?

Are we judging and punishing people or protecting society? I sure don’t get paid for the work they are doing so they must not owe me a debt. Private prisons anyone? The guy taking your tax money is the one that is collecting on your debt as well.
 
If you think prison inmates are defenseless please try walking among them in the exercise yard.
 
If you think prison inmates are defenseless please try walking among them in the exercise yard.
Is this a serious statement? If you consider the reality of it, it is humorous at best and evil at worse.
 
Everybody should have access to religious services he’s required to attend (those that aren’t optional). Prohibition from attending should not be an available punishment, only a precaution if the particular inmate won’t behave during services.

Non-violent ones should be separated from violent ones, not just who got how many years of a sentence. No more blind eye on inmate vs inmate violence. One can be sentenced to hard labour. One can’t be implicitly sentenced to inmate beating and rape, nor is that appropriate punishment for a crime. Especially not for a non-violent crime.

Psych tests for guards, supervisors and others in authority. Strict enforcement of protection against inhumane and degrading treatment. Proper investigation and prosecution for abuse by staff. No blind eye here. (But without prejudice to due process and presumption of innocence in disciplinary proceedings for guards. If possible, things should take place with witnesses, records, perhaps video recording.)

Privacy and modesty of inmates should trump “equal employment opportunities” of guards (unfortunately, no such luck with many a court, I’ve seen some shameful rulings), so that opposite-sex strip searches and the like procedures are strictly banned out of existence. When such things do need to happen, they should be strictly by same-sex, preferably not known gay or bisexual personnel, outside the presence or view of any unnecessary people but especially opposite sex. Deprivation of clothing has no place in 21st century and yet it is conceived by sick minds employed in the wrong positions and it does happen. Sometimes in connection with very cold temperature in the cell. Whoever comes up with such stuff needs a serious wake-up call. I would be in favour of corporal punishment for such sadists and/or perverts, but we live in 21st century even if they don’t.

Some real due process and not just on paper and in theory for every request that gets denied, every complaint that is attempted to be filed, every punishment that is awarded or executed. Staff should receive appropriate training. Disciplinary offences (types of, descriptions) should come from a list that’s put on paper as a written policy. Available penalties should also come from a list that’s put on paper. Both offences and penalties should be vetted by at least inhouse lawyers if not external ones but any any rate accessible to humanitarian organisations and any other interested NGOs. Investigations into abuse reports need to become real and reaction need to be real too (more psych tests before = less need for investigations after).

Transfers out of the reach of abusers for those who are abused, whether by other inmates or by guards. Transfers of abusive inmates to separate facilities for like company. Transfers of violent or otherwise abusive staffers to desk positions.

Some rights for families. Spouses, children, parents, siblings and others did not kill or steal. Or even cheat on taxes. They typically did nothing to deserve to be separated.

Work. People who want to work should have the right to work, especially if it’s not about getting some pocket money but about doing something productive. There’s always some community work that needs to be done, or some vocational work. In this connection, people don’t have a right, strictly speaking, to learn a job while in prison. But preventing people from having a way of supporting themselves other than the life of crime they’ve tasted is bound to place a released inmate before a very hard choice. Not all will resist. Nor should they be made to become welfare recipients–there are already enough people who need it. So occupational learning should be there, along with some assistance with getting a job once out. Perhaps in the same places that employ current inmates. This is really a favour to the society in general rather than just to them. That fact that they “don’t deserve” such a benefit does not justify punishing the society with idle, skillless former inmates tempted to turn back to crime for a living once they’re out.

As has been mentioned: medicines. Savings on medical care are understandable. Being mean or disorganised about access to doctors and medicines is not.
 
People don’t understand. It is supposed to be about protecting society not vengeance. We are supposed to rehabillitate not punish.
I believe that rehabilitation is KEY for prisoners, in particular for those who are going to eventually be released back into society at some point. It’s my understanding that the behavior of prisoners, any rule breaking, is now common practice to officially charge prisoners with all crimes committed while in prison. While I think charging them with some crimes is important (such as violent assaults with weapons), I think that the micro-management of their negative behavior and rule breaking works against rehabilitation. This seems to be the focus of prison guards. Someone caught with ‘contraband’ while in prison being brought up on charges I think can go too far…such as possession of cigarettes or even ‘hooch’/homemade alcohol…I think this stuff should just be taken away from them when found and have it be left at that.

In the USA prisons are definitely NOT focused on rehabilitation. They are focused on punnishment and control. While some of the hard cases (murderers, etc) I think might need to be treated differently and maybe the focus on them should be micro management of their behavior and control over them due to their dangerousness…I think that doing that in general to prisoners works against rehabilitation. IMO prison guards in the USA do NOT have the mindset of rehabiliation. I know a few of them but am basing my opinion from what I see on TV and the fact that there are private for profit prisons now. They lobby for harsher sentences, madatory minimums, and it should be obvious that such prisons are out to have prisoners in prison for as long as possible and to have them re-offend and come back to prison based on simple economics. They make more profit this way and less profit if prisoners are rehabilitated. And we the taxpayers are paying for this. So we are paying to have people once in prison treated in such a way that their chances of coming back are increased rather than decreased based on simple economics of for profit prisons.

I want prisoners rehabilitated. For themselves, their families, and for society in general. I think any other approach just makes no sense. The whole structure of the system is upsidedown and backwards. I realize that there are opportunites for rehabilitation while in prison, but this is very, very different than having the climate, the culture, the mileau of prisons to be one of rehabilitation. This means that the administration and the guards need to have the mindset to be devoted to working towards rehabilitation. Doing this is not some wildly difficult task. Of course rehab isn’t going to ‘stick’ to all the prisoners, but if the culture, the mileau of life inside prison were one of rehabilitation society would be much better off. I think it’s crazy for us to be paying to have people locked up and then treated in such a way that they are likely to return rather than having the expectation on prisons that they produce rehabiliated prisoners. And the successful prisons, the one’s with the lowest rates of recividation should be mimmicked and the ones with the highest rates of recividism closed down.

As it stands now people who go to prison pretty much become career criminals. Sure, not everyone can be rehabed, but I don’t even think that prisons are even really trying at all to rehab the prisoners. I think the guards have an us against them mentality rather than a mentality that they should be role models for the prisoners and sort of counselors to prisoners, promoting rehab. Most people going to prison are not going for life so it’s imperitive for them to be rehabed for society. I believe this is what God, this is what Jesus Christ, want for people sent to prison. I know it’s what I want as a Christian and as a member of society and a taxpayer. I hope others want the same and hope that prisons can and do shift toward rehabilitation ASAP for the good of us all.

God Bless,
Bill
 
I have walked among them in the prison yards 🙂 I was one of the ones to whom mercy was shown, and to cover that mercy for myself would be pure evil.
Many become, as several of you thoughtful respondents for whom I pray for blessings undoubtedly know, more brutal than before while incarcerated… Because how can a man who is shown no mercy show mercy himself, and what can a man give when all he is given is abuse?
Thank you for your thoughtful replies. I am praying about what to do next and will be in touch.
 
Is this a serious statement? If you consider the reality of it, it is humorous at best and evil at worse.
As for “reality” have you ever tried it?

As for being socially defenseless, what a joke. Access to free lawyers, communication devices and computers - they can still make life hard for their victims from their cell.
 
GREAT NEWS! The enforcement of inmate rights has been accomplished! And not by me, has to be your prayers and a loving higher power!
District court judge Karen Sage just succeeded in getting a bill passed that will:
  1. Show mercy to mentally ill non-violent offenders who, due to their mental illnesses, would suffer immensely if put in jail or prison.
  2. Dictate federal laws mandating that ALL mentally ill inmates receive adequate and complete treatment for their conditions, thus rehabilitating and preparing them for a return to society.
  3. Get this- reduce sentence time by a whopping 50% for all non-violent offenders with mental illness!!!
    I have no comment on the un-Christian insults thrown at me for being a “voice for the voiceless” as Scripture commands. I’ll just say to everyone who responded to my post that the Judge of Judges has made his verdict that mercy reigns!
    I do wonder what the person who called me evil and the one who rudely called me out of touch with reality were trying to accomplish? You didn’t for one second diminish my joy, hope, or my determination to obey Scripture. Did you openlu sin and set a bad, hypocritical example? I’m not the judge.
    To everyone with a love of what’s right, please search for my post about another social justice mission. It’s about parental rights and reform within the DSS/Child Protective Services system. I’ll look back at the title and get back to you.
 
teslaeden I am so happy to hear this news!
God is good

Thankyou Lord for guiding us to have compassion for our brothers and sisters in prison as You called us to do.Amen

God bless you teslaeden…you are a good example to us all.
 
I find it strange, ironic, perhaps hypocritical that some here are hurling invectives and suggesting harsh treatment for prison employees who mistreat prisoners, but demand that priviledges (cell phones, computer access, privacy, early release, paid work) be declared “rights” for convicts. Once said prison employees are found guilty they’ll be prisoners and then you’ll be on their side? :rolleyes:

Jesus commands us to visit the prisoners and have compassion for them. This is not the same thing as declaring that convicts have a RIGHT to a comfortable and pleasant time in prison. We have a duty of charity, which is a word for love. Nobody has the right for me to love him, but I do have the duty. See the difference?

The problem with the language of rights here is that is removes much of the power of love. When a person voluntarily loves another by giving to him what he needs, three things happen:
  1. The physical need is met.
  2. The giver is changed by experiencing Christ in the receiver.
  3. The receiver is changed by experiencing Christ in the giver.
#s 2 and 3 don’t happen when institutional rights are implemented. And I rather think those are actually more important than #1. It’s not that much different than long term welfare. Are the poor REALLY better off when they are told that they have a RIGHT to expect to be fed and housed and that their rights are being violated by someone if that isn’t happening properly? Or would we all be better off if the poor experienced generous and voluntary giving by people who didn’t have to out of love? Worth thinking about.
 
I’m not going to pretend to understand the intricacies of the justice system, or say that “I know best” how to do it.

Instead, I will merely express my disappointment and outrage that rape is considered a fact of life in many prisons, so much so that outsiders make jokes about it. Surely we should be concerned about this.
 
Prisoners and Prisons are something I greatly fear. I’ve been around Forensic psych patients a few times and it really gave me the heebie jeebies but I think thats just the evolutionary reaction to a known predator.

I have never been to prison and I don’t have any convicted ex-prisoners in my family or amongst my friends. However, I’ve heard so many terrible things about what happens in prisons. Here’s my brain storm.
  1. I think any measures that can be taken to lessen the likelihood of ‘institutionalization’ should be taken for prisoners who are expected to eventually re-enter society. This includes encouraging and maintaining modesty: private showers, private bathrooms, the ability to have privacy from other inmates in their cells. Private cells.
  2. Utmost protection from rape or other sexual violation. I know in Canada we don’t have nearly as many prisons as the US but I have read some disturbing statistics about sexual assault and harassment in prisons. I personally think those known to prey on other prisoners should be the ones placed in isolation, not the one’s preyed upon. Isolation is terrible thing to go through and it’s almost like punishing the victim for having been punished.
  3. Cut off access to outside bank accounts. I hear that in prisons some criminals continue to run their crime endeavors from inside or use their money to pay other inmates to do them favors like assault other prisoners or hunt and harass guards outside the prison.
  4. Cell blocks should be smaller. More segregation I think would make the population easier to manage and make it easier on the guards to keep tabs on everyone and the social environment going on in the block. Kind of like smaller class sizes being more effective. The same goes for meals and yard time. When there are less people to supervise I think guards would have an easier time preventing ‘mishaps’.
  5. Stop the influx of drugs into the prison! I don’t understand how these high security facilities can have so many drugs circulating around the prison. Any medications required by a patient should be administered by the medical officer or nurse in that professional’s office, even that means they have to see the same patient six times a day every day.
  6. Higher ratio of Guards-to-Prisoners. I think if the guards are happier and feel more secure and less over-worked this will translate to better treatment and report with the inmates.
  7. More frequent conjugal visits and family days in private places. I saw a prison in a documentary once that had little cottages on the grounds with kitchens and bedrooms and television and backyards for prisoners having their conjugal or family days to go to.
  8. More private visiting areas. More comfortable, more aesthetic, private visiting rooms, at least for inmates considers fit by the guards for such things so that families don’t have to feel threatened by other inmates while visiting their loved one and they can have privacy.
  9. Maybe don’t imprison non-violent, drug offenders. I mean users. Put them in high-security rehab instead.
  10. Lessen the age-gaps of inmates in cell blocks.
  11. No child tried as an adult should serve time with adults.
  12. Zero tolerance for inter-inmate harassment, including cat-calls and verbal abuse. Allowing some abuse I think encourages inmates to push the envelope and could part of what leads to assaults, murders, and rapes.
These things may not be realistic. I don’t believe a lot of prisoners are capable of being rehabilitated really. And I think a lot that could be come out traumatized by the experience. At least for those that seem to have a good prognosis of rehabilitation they should also have realistic hope of their prospects when they leave prison, which might mean changing what happens to them when they leave.

Rape is thing that scares me the most about prisons. Not belittle female rape, but of all the rape victim’s I’ve had to work with in the ER, it is the men who have the worst prognosis.

I also think we should work on changing the public attitude towards prisoners. Maybe if we don’t treat them like animals they won’t live up to our expectations. I hate when I hear people say things like “Yup, and He’ll get raped until he has a size 11 ******* for what he did” when they learn someone is going to prison. Two wrongs don’t make a right and the public disregard for the safety of people in prison I think contributes to dehumanization everywhere, not just within the walls of these places most of us will never go to.

I’m going to pray for prisoners everywhere tonight, no matter where they are or what they’ve done.

It would be great to get (name removed by moderator)ut from someone who works with inmates. They would REALLY know.

Regards,
  • Mharren
 
even paul was in jail before sadly a wedding ended his life.

I think no matter the crime you should be treated with dignity. You may spend the rest of your life in Jail but your not a animal.
 
Human life is sacred -ALL Human life…whether prisoners unborn babies elderly infirm disabled terminally ill or whatever …all life is sacred …we are ALL God’s children.

We are to have compassion for those in prison and pray for them to have remorse for their actions.Prison should be a place where they can have an opportunity to rehabilitate.

We have a duty of care and protection to keep people safe from danger, that is one reason why we need prison’s.We should treat all prisoners with dignity and care as human beings.We do not have the right to abuse them or allow abuse of any kind.We can pray for them to change their behaviour and come to know God.They are human beings just as we are.

If we are to say we are a civilised people then we are to behave in a civilised manner.

Corporal works of mercy

Feed the hungry
Give drink to the thirsty
Clothe the naked
Shelter the homeless
Visit the sick
Visit those in prison
Bury the dead

It is not for us to treat them poorly or unfairly…that would make us as criminal in our actions…though they may have done wrong and committed a crime,they are still our neighbour.

Luke 6:41 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

Jesus’ teaching (Matthew 25:31-46) called us to be with those in prison; He didn’t qualify it with why they were there. And in the story of the prodigal son (Book of Job), Christ urged compassion for all, even those in prison.

“Remember those in prison as if you were their fellow prisoners…”
–Hebrews 13:13

“I am the Lord, I have called you in righteousness to open blind eyes, to bring out prisoners from that dungeon, and those who dwell in darkness from the prison.”
–Isaiah 42:6,7

“For you had compassion on those in prison, and you joyfully accepted the plundering of your property, since you knew that you yourselves had a better possession and abiding one.”
–Hebrews 10:34

What you do to these men, you do to God"
–Mother Teresa during her visit to San Quentin Prison

We are all sinners…not one of us is without sin.We are to pray for all prisoners.
 
Are we judging and punishing people or protecting society?
Are those things mutually exclusive? I think not.

I think all three are in play, to one extent or another. From a Christian perspective, we should leave the punishment to the Almighty and focus on judging from a legal perspective with the intent of protecting society.
 
A reminder to those reading this thread that those incarcerated in jails and prisons are often–NOT ALWAYS and not necessarily the majority of them, but OFTEN–incorrigibly violent and aggressive, highly deceptive, and out to exploit any weakness and/or victimise any person who happens to enter their sphere of influence. I work with a great many current and/or former correctional officers, who have dealt with prisoners in many different settings. While things can and should be better, while it would be nice to see more community involvement on many levels in our American prison system, the kinds of things tossed-out in this thread are either outright WRONG, or display dangerous naivete. Remember that not only are many of these prisoners dangerous as individuals, but also are often linked with others through gang networks or similar associations. And remember that it is often in the interest of such incarceratees to LIE, spread unfounded myths, or exaggerate.things.
 
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