Scripture vs Tradition

[mgrfin]

Why should a Protestant answer a question directed at Catholics.

You said you had no problem answering DLC’s question.

Then you said you would answer it.

Now you say 'why should a Protestant answer a question directed at Catholics".

You can’t seem to answer anything here. You are embarassing yourself.

peace

 

[Janet_S]

Why should a Protestant answer a question directed at Catholics.

You claimed at the start of this thread that there is disagreement among Catholics about interpretations of Scripture.

In light of your original post, it makes sense that you should answer this question: “WHAT SCRIPTURES ARE CATHOLICS DISAGREEING ABOUT?”

You must have had something specific in mind when you started this. What specifically did you have in mind?

 

[mgrfin]

I am a Catholic who believes Sacred Tradition helps to illuminate Sacred Scripture.

Here’s an example of what I mean by Tradition illuminating Scripture: As a Catholic, I believe in the Trinity on the basis of Sacred Tradition. Why do I say that? Because I cannot discern the doctrine of the Trinity from the Bible alone for the simple reason that the word “Trinity” is not even in the Bible. Yet I and everyone else who accepts this Tradition can read the Bible and clearly see the doctrine of the Trinity throughout–from Genesis to Revelation.

Yet if you discard Tradition, and rely only on the Bible, not everyone comes to the conclusion that the doctrine of the Trinity is true. Many religious groups accept the Bible and don’t believe in the doctrine of the Trinity. The Jews don’t. The LDS’s and the JW’s don’t. The Arians didn’t, and they argued from the vantage point of sola Scriptura. The oneness Pentecostals don’t.

The doctrine of the Trinity is a part of Sacred Tradition that is not explicitly taught in the Bible. Those who accept this Tradition, though, will read the Bible in this light. We see the Trinity throughout salvation history–from the Creation story of Genesis to the beginnings of the Church at Pentecost.

It is an excellent post, Janet.

Ginger has a real problem with Tradition. That is why she started this thread.

But the thesis of this thread is very weak. And she has refused to answer the question which she assumed the answer to: what scriptures do Catholic dispute each other with.

Ginger, why can’t you answer that question. You had it in post #2(Edited).

peace

 

[Ginger2]

You said you had no problem answering DLC’s question.

Then you said you would answer it.

Now you say 'why should a Protestant answer a question directed at Catholics".

You can’t seem to answer anything here. You are embarassing yourself.

peace

I think you know I meant "I have no problem with DLC’s question being answered/ discussed. He was directing his question to Catholics. I can and will be happy to answer his question from a Protestant point of view if that is what DCL is seeking. Is that what you want DLC?

 

[Ginger2]

You claimed at the start of this thread that there is disagreement among Catholics about interpretations of Scripture.

In light of your original post, it makes sense that you should answer this question: “WHAT SCRIPTURES ARE CATHOLICS DISAGREEING ABOUT?”

You must have had something specific in mind when you started this. What specifically did you have in mind?

There have been several instances. If you want me to give specific examples, it will take some time to go through threads to find posts. I did not have a specific instance in mind when posting the question.

Have you never stated that the Catholic church teaches something only to have that Catholic say you misunderstand the stated position of the church?

 

[Ginger2]

Not so fast, Ginger. You could not find the post. Therefore, there seems to be no error.

There is no apology therefore.

This thread is going nowhere, Ginger.

peace

Are you doubting my integrity?

 

[mgrfin]

There have been several instances. If you want me to give specific examples, it will take some time to go through threads to find posts. I did not have a specific instance in mind when posting the question.

QUOTE]

You did not have a specific instance in mind when posting the question?

Why and how did you posit this thread in the first place. You can’t seem to be trusted with any thought from us without twisting it to serve your own agenda.

You have us answer why Tradition is spelled with a capital “T”.
so, please answer the question, even if you have to go through the posts. You have an obligation to do this.

peace

 

[mgrfin]

Are you doubting my integrity?

Do you have any reason to wonder why?

peace

 

[John_Romanoski]

As always I am happy with the answers giving by members of CA on Scripture vs. Tradition. John R.

 

[Ginger2]

You can’t seem to be trusted with any thought from us without twisting it to serve your own agenda.

You have us answer why Tradition is spelled with a capital “T”.
so, please answer the question, even if you have to go through the posts. You have an obligation to do this.

I did not say I wouldn’t provide specific instances,(mostly from your posts) I said it would take some time.

Also it will be a lot of work since work.

 

[mgrfin]

As always I am happy with the answers giving by members of CA on Scripture vs. Tradition. John R.

???
What’s ‘CA’???

peace

 

[Ginger2]

Not so fast, Ginger. You could not find the post. Therefore, there seems to be no error.

There is no apology therefore.

This thread is going nowhere, Ginger.

peace

You’ll be happy to know I found your post - I know I am.

Posted By mgrfin
Re: Protestants:If you don’t pray to Saints, do you pray to Angels?

As usual, Ginger, you misstate our Theology. Scripture and Tradition are not on equal footing. Tradition trumphs Scripture all the time.

In another thread you say the Catechism is irrelevant.
Posted By mgrfin
Re: Sola Scriptura Defined

What does the Catechism say? Totally irrelevant. The Catechism is a small volume in the Vatican library.

(Edited)

 

[Ginger2]

[You can’t seem to be trusted with any thought from us without twisting it to serve your own agenda.

I’m waiting for my apology.

Then, if you don’t mind, quit wasting everyone’s time with these useless and endless posts that bring no benefit to the discussion.
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[mgrfin]

I would recommend to the Moderator that this thread be closed since Ginger2 is running around in circles, and can’t define the question of the thread, and refuses to answer questions.

peace

 

[Ginger2]

I would recommend to the Moderator that this thread be closed since Ginger2 is running around in circles, and can’t define the question of the thread, and refuses to answer questions.

peace

mgrfin, I took the time and painstaking effort to find the quote you made about Tradition trumps Scripture.

Now you accuse me of refusing to answer a question, but I needed time to do so.

It is you who takes these threads off topic. With your nasty accusations.

You are the reason this thread is stalled - because I have to spend all my time looking through thousands of posts to satisfy your nonsense.

I wish you would stop joining thread that I start.

 

[mgrfin]

You’ll be happy to know I found your post - I know I am.

Posted By mgrfin
Re: Protestants:If you don’t pray to Saints, do you pray to Angels?

As usual, Ginger, you misstate our Theology. Scripture and Tradition are not on equal footing. Tradition trumphs Scripture all the time.

In another thread you say the Catechism is irrelevant.
Posted By mgrfin
Re: Sola Scriptura Defined

What does the Catechism say? Totally irrelevant. The Catechism is a small volume in the Vatican library.

Now where is that apology? and while you’re at it you owe me a personal apology for posts # 67 & 68 as well as several others.

Move on with the thread, Ginger, instead of trying to score points, and win ‘gotchas’.

peace

 

[Ginger2]

I would recommend to the Moderator that this thread be closed since Ginger2 is running around in circles, and can’t define the question of the thread, and refuses to answer questions.

peace

I proved that I was truthful after you slandered me - so now you want the thread closed. It would be better if you just managed to stay on topic and stop attacking me.

 

[mgrfin]

You claimed at the start of this thread that there is disagreement among Catholics about interpretations of Scripture.

In light of your original post, it makes sense that you should answer this question: “WHAT SCRIPTURES ARE CATHOLICS DISAGREEING ABOUT?”

You must have had something specific in mind when you started this. What specifically did you have in mind?

Janet,

Ginger is not going to anwer you or me. She started this thread on two false premises, and when she realized she had made mistakes, she has no where to go but to argue with posters, and blame them.

peace

 

[mgrfin]

I proved that I was truthful after you slandered me - so now you want the thread closed. It would be better if you just managed to stay on topic and stop attacking me.

Please stay on topic, Ginger.

peace

 

[Ginger2]

(Edited)



The point of the thread is that if Tradition’s purpose is to help the faithful Catholic understand the true meaning of the Scriptures, but Catholics can sometimes disagree in how Tradition is interpreted,

How is this any different that using the Scriptures themselves to understand God?