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It seems that so many time in the past as I have gotten close to God, I have become “hyper-spiritual” as it were, regarding sin; often getting to the point of making myself miserable over the thought of doing/saying/thinking something unholy. My dad has always told me that “the Lord has come to give us life, and give it to us abundantly.” And that I should not get so legalistic over things. It makes me feel miserable when it gets to that point; and in the past has caused me to give up on living a Spiritual life. Do you guys have any advice?
 
This is one of the most often asked questions on CAF.

Have you used the search button for “scrupulosity”?

There are a number of extremely useful references, such as Scrupulous Anonymous, which is both an on-line and snail mail newsletter from the Redemptorist Fathers in, I think, St. Louis.

Anyway, it is excellent.

Check it out.

They are extremely helpful.
 
I know exactly how you feel. It is very frustrating to live life as though walking through a mine field. After reading some literature on the saints I feel like curling up under my bed all day to avoid contact with people so I don’t sin.
 
It seems that so many time in the past as I have gotten close to God, I have become “hyper-spiritual” as it were, regarding sin; often getting to the point of making myself miserable over the thought of doing/saying/thinking something unholy. My dad has always told me that “the Lord has come to give us life, and give it to us abundantly.” And that I should not get so legalistic over things. It makes me feel miserable when it gets to that point; and in the past has caused me to give up on living a Spiritual life. Do you guys have any advice?
Hi Zeldarocks,

I deal with this problem of scrupulosity too. I"ve found that the cause of mine is due to my tendency towards OCD. Obsessive thinking in general can contribute to scruples. And secondly, not trusting enough in God’s understanding of me. Many times things written on scrupulosity blame only a lack of trust in God, but this is not always the case for everyone. Only you can know if you tend towards obsessive thinking in general or only with sin.
I’ve also found that learning more about what is a sin and what isn’t has helped. For instance sometimes lustful or angry thoughts pop into our minds. Sometimes the strangest most disturbing things can pop into our minds and they can shake us. This is normal. This is the human brain. There is no sin in having a terrible thought come into your mind. Even if it keeps coming up. The sin would be in comjuring up the thoughts willingly, churning it around in your mind, relishing in it, prolonging it, etc.

When a sinful thought comes into my mind, I try to say a quick prayer or distract mysefl and even laugh about it—"Oh, here we go again with my obsessive mind! "

I’ve also found though, that while it can be difficult at times to live with, it also can be a blessing to our spiritual lives if we can learn to let it work for us. The bad thing is that we can take sin too seriously. The good thing is that we can take sin too seriously. Of course, the trick is to find the balance.

The one good thing is that our scruples keep us away from many situations that other people might have trouble with. It can keep you from putting yourself in sinful situations or situations that can weaken us to commit sin in the future. I know it has kept me from speaking too much and getting myself in trouble. Ultimately it has led me to trust more in His mercy, which of course is a good thing.

I became Catholic in 2005. I know that as I was making my way towards the Catholic Church I was concerned about the teachings on mortal sin and how I would handle that knowing how my obsessive mind could mess with me. But I came anyway and it has all worked out. In the beginning I used to read a lot of stuff about hell or purgatory. This is not good for sensitive people. So I would suggest you not read about those things. You already know you want to avoid hell and there’s no need to feed into your fears of sinning.

Like I said, It’s a battle at times, but it gets easier the more you learn and grow in the faith. As a priest once said to me–“You have to really work to committ a mortal sin!” If you love God and take sin seriouusly, stay close to Him, you can be assurred that you will stay out of trouble.

But don’t beat yourself up about it. This life of faith is a learning process and everyone is different. God is patient. Don’t let your scurpolosity keep you from living a spiritual life or considering the Catholic Church. There have been many holy people who have struggled with this problem. And I would recommend a book on scrupulosity by Fr. Santa. I forget the exact title, but if you google it, it’ll come up, I’m sure.
 
I know exactly how you feel. It is very frustrating to live life as though walking through a mine field. After reading some literature on the saints I feel like curling up under my bed all day to avoid contact with people so I don’t sin.
That was funny tho I mean no offense. That was good and I know what you mean.
In some ways the saints have the opposite effect on people.

I found somewhat of a solution when I was learning to play golf. I was reading all these
magazines by the pros and trying to follow all their suggestions. It was doing more
damage than good. After a while I threw away the books and started to try different
ways of golfing on my own observation. And it worked. I found that what works for me
is to find “my way”. It didn’t mean I didn’t use their principles but that I quite trying to be
them and copying them in every way. Now I enjoy the game and improved.

I also learned that the pros give different advice on the same thing.

Spirituallity uses as a basis the same principles, but is executed differently, that is, what
works for one may not work for another, for people are different. Just be yourself and see what Jesus wants of you, and do it in a way that would please Him.

Just an idea.
 
“Who can detect his own failings?
Wash out my hidden faults
And from pride preserve your servant,
never let it dominate me
So shall I be above reproach, free from grave sin
.” [Psalm 19:12-13]
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The basic problem regarding scrupulosity is is that he or she is a person is living out of fear rather than our of love, however much they want to love.
It also seems based on the idea that we can be perfect though what we do.

It probably won't be very convincing on an emotional practical level as even if we acknowledge something we learn as true, that doesn't guarantee we can take it on board.
However a couple of thoughts came to mind so I'll post them I guess, the first being:

“God is asking me, the unworthy, to forget my unworthiness and that of my brothers, and to dare to advance in the love which has redeemed and renewed us all in God’s likeness…to laugh, after all, at the preposterous idea of ‘worthiness’” Conjectures of a Guilty Bystander, Thomas Merton. 

The scriptural text that might accompany that is :
**“I am no longer trying for perfection by my own efforts...but I only want the perfection that comes through faith in Christ, and is from God and based on faith.**” [Philippians 3:9] 

The bulk of what I thought of sharing was painstakingly typed into my journal from some letters between St Therese and her sisters, and from her sister Leonie's writings, and from Carmel in the World. The trouble is it's a lot of writing so I have to try to be judicious, which isn't always easy.

However, firstly, this is a profound scriptural text, one that all scrupulous persons and all discouraged persons  need to keep before their eyes. As I become discouraged too sometimes, that's me too!

"**Let honesty prompt your thinking about the Lord, seek Him in simplicity of heart; since He is to be found by those who do not put Him to the test, He shows Himself to those who do not distrust Him. But selfish intentions divorce from God.” **[Wisdom 1:1-2] 

That text is awesome and worthy of careful meditation, as is the following text:
Jesus says, **“I tell you solemnly, anyone who does not welcome the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.” **[Luke18: 17] 

We know that text well and it may seem odd to some. Does God expect us to be childish? No. To be childlike in our faith is to be trusting of our Father and loving. like Jesus.

St Therese of Lisieux, who is not only a canonized saint but also a Dopctor of the Church, taught:
“**The only way to advance rapidly in the path of love is to always remain very little” “‘Remaining little’ means—to recognise ones nothingness, to await everything from the goodness of God, to avoid being much troubled at our faults; finally, not to be worried about amassing spiritual riches.”** “There is but one means of compelling God not to judge us, and it is—to appear before Him empty-handed...spend your treasures as you gain them...All my earnings [merits] are spent immediately on the ransom of souls...Our Lord is justice Himself, and if He does not judge our good actions, neither will He judge our bad ones.” 

Have to get back to you later. My son just phoned
 
In retrospect, my scrupulosity appears to be made manifest through the power of suggestion: “you should do this or do that.” I often feel that God could be telling me to do something and thus feel miserable if I don’t do it. I’ve asked my dad “How can I tell if it’s God or not?” He would say something like “All good things come from God” meaning that if I’m being driven to a charitable work or such thing, then it would be of God.

Any advice on how to handle those situations?
 
In retrospect, my scrupulosity appears to be made manifest through the power of suggestion: “you should do this or do that.” I often feel that God could be telling me to do something and thus feel miserable if I don’t do it. I’ve asked my dad “How can I tell if it’s God or not?” He would say something like “All good things come from God” meaning that if I’m being driven to a charitable work or such thing, then it would be of God.

Any advice on how to handle those situations?
Zeldarocks,

That sounds like you may be experiencing a bit of obsessiveness. Some people, like myself, have overactive minds. Not saying you do for sure, just that often our minds can become very busy and confused, escpecially when we are in the process of major change.

I was a Protestant before I became Catholic, so I know that in the Protestant world there tends to be the notion that whatever thought or desire one has after prayer that it must be from God. Especially, when it seems like a good, charitable thing., or, if it is pleasing to our senses or temperment. But in the Catholic view, it is very different. We have to be careful with thinking that because a particular path is “good” that it is definitely from God.

I’ve read many times that if the devil can’t get sensitive souls to commit sin he will try to get them “busy”. Busy with goals, ambitions, desires, etc. And we can get so busy that we lose our prayer life and our peace.

For example, I am a writer and can get very obsessive about it. Because I write about my faith and and the logic of the Catholic faith, in the beginning, I often didn’t put as much focus on my wife and daughter. I would think—yes, but the feeling do to this is so strong. It is good after all, people might benefit from my writings.

Over time I had to realize that I had become very busy and my prayer life was suffering as well. So we learn how to do this over time.We have to come to know ourselves too. Self knowledge is key. What are the strengths, what are your weaknesses…

So like I said, the first thing is to realize that God is not calling you to do everything that comes into your mind, even if it feels right. You have to submit it to reason and your knowledge of yourself and even seek the (name removed by moderator)ut of others who are fiuther along in living the spiritual life.
There are many methods for discerning one’s path and I’m sure others could elaborate on that as well.

God Bless
 
In retrospect, my scrupulosity appears to be made manifest through the power of suggestion: “you should do this or do that.” I often feel that God could be telling me to do something and thus feel miserable if I don’t do it. I’ve asked my dad “How can I tell if it’s God or not?” He would say something like “All good things come from God” meaning that if I’m being driven to a charitable work or such thing, then it would be of God.

Any advice on how to handle those situations?
First of course is the question --Is he really telling you such and such…I sometimes joke that there are some who seek to discern if they are to eat Frosted Flakes or Fruit Loops that day…sometimes people over think --over concern themselves with such…much is left to our simple choice.

Distinguish between what one may be obliged to (like Mass on Sunday) …and what is “counsel” -where it is good to do but we need not do it per se here and now.

And of course focus more on joyfully following Christ.
 
Discuss with your confessor if you have a difficulty with scruples…

Some things for those with such:

Regular confessor (best if they have some background in this…but do not wait) whom one can trust (indeed entrust yourself to for the time being!). He can give not only direction in general etc but note certain principles or confirm them for you that you can follow. Obedience …is important here…it is the age old remedy.

(of course one seeks a confessor who is faithful to the Church… if something is clearly wrong…like he tells you to murder his secretary…or tells you to use contraception…well that will be clear …and one should change confessors (and perhaps tell the Bishop) …but one should not change due to scruples…by taking this responsibility for you if he makes a mistake…it is on him)

Perhaps some studies in (orthodox) Catholic Theology such as what is in the Catechism (I say perhaps cause some need to not read etc for a while…but simply follow their confessor…depends on the scruples etc)

**Prayer **

**Frequenting the Sacraments **(within reason…confession every day…is prob. not a good idea unless one really falls into mortal sin…)

Contra scruplos agendum est, et fixo operis pede certandum

(Act contrary to scruples and with a firm foot overcome them)

Overcoming ones scruples…ones fears with a “firm foot”. Learning to act against them under the guidance of your confessor. Dismiss them. Not argue with them. (ie. ones confessor says…“unless you are certain you have committed a mortal sin…go to communion”…and you feel the fear and the doubts and the worries at the time of communion “but perhaps I committed one…?” you tell yourself “I am not certain of any mortal sins and my confessor told me to go” and you act against your fears and go to Communion!) etc

(in a way one needs be “scrupulous” about attending to ones scruples…)

Simplicity

One must distinguish between a scrupulous conscience and a delicate conscience.

A ‘tender conscience or delicate conscience’ sees the finer distinctions and seeks very much to avoid even very small sins …and …who can judge normally between mortal and venial sin…when in doubt is able to make judgments overcoming his doubt by prudence or abide by good advice etc

as for scruples…or scrupulosity

scruples or those who are even of a higher degree of scrupulosity take venial sin to be mortal…or non sins to be sins…or are plagued by doubts…unreasonable fears/anxieties about sins…seeing them or fearing them where they need not…etc etc

The french call it the doubting disease (though it is not a disease) for one has lot of problems knowing one knows…thus with doubt (or more often “apparent doubt”)

of course there are degrees and it is possible for a person to have generally a delicate conscience or a normal conscience and still have a struggle with scruples in certain areas…or have very transient scruples at the time of their conversion …

and a person may go from one to the other…

one combats scruples with a good regular confessor…

by forming ones conscience…(with such as the Catechism etc)

and with his guidance acting against ones scruples…

possibly by general principles given often historically by confessors to deal with scruples

by prayer…

by trust and joy in living the Christian life…

(if I can be of further help feel free to pm me)
 
I have been hearing this a lot lately:
I deal with a lot of the same issues as you do. I have become “overly-scrupulous” and it is hard to keep going. It is hard to discern whether or not what I am hearing is from myself, God, or evil. The good news is that the fix is a very simple one.

Just wake up in the morning and ask “Lord God, what would you have me do this day as I give myself to your will”, and for the rest of the day you just follow the Ten Commandments. If you are following the commandments, God will take care of the rest and lead you where you need to go. Just follow the commandments.

God’s blessings,
Joshua
 
In retrospect, my scrupulosity appears to be made manifest through the power of suggestion: “you should do this or do that.” I often feel that God could be telling me to do something and thus feel miserable if I don’t do it. I’ve asked my dad “How can I tell if it’s God or not?” He would say something like “All good things come from God” meaning that if I’m being driven to a charitable work or such thing, then it would be of God.

Any advice on how to handle those situations?
The 8th Commandment for the Scrupulous (from Scrupulous Anonymous- highly recommend!):
"8. You shall believe and act accordingly, so that whenever you are in doubt as to whether or not you are obliged to do or not to do something, you can take it for certain that you are not obligated. "

You are not under any obligation to follow these extra ‘inspirations’ and you should not consider yourself guilty of anything whatsoever if you do not follow them. God loves a cheerful giver. Don’t make yourself miserable trying to do everything. Its better if you can do one small thing cheerfully than 10 big things with a heavy heart. ‘Come to Me and I will give you rest’ He said.
 
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