Seattle university--a traditional? catholic? university

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SEATTLE UNIVERSITY TO BE RENAMED SODOM AND GOMORRAH UNIVERSITY
Got your attention, didn’t it. Well, consider the following.

SEATTLE UNIVERSITY CELEBRATES THE START OF LENT WITH TRANSGENDER AWARENESS WEEK

This week is “Transgender Awareness Week” at Seattle University, including a session on allegedly transgendered Bible heroes and heroines and “Criss-Cross Day,” where students are encouraged to “come dressed for the day in your best gender-bending outfit.” The events are sponsored by the university’s Office of Multicultural Affairs and the student Trans and Allies Club.

That a Catholic university would permit this event on it’s campus at any time of the year is unthinkable, but to do so during the holy season of Lent is unconscionable.
SEATTLE UNIVERSITY CELEBRATES VALENTINES DAY WEEKEND WITH PRODUCTION OF THE LEWD VAGINA MONOLOGUES
The Vagina Monologues is made up of a varying number of monologues read by a varying number of women . Every monologue somehow relates to the vagina, be it through all manner of sex, masturbation, and orgasm, the variety of names for the vagina, or simply as a physical aspect of the body. A recurring theme throughout the piece is the vagina as a tool of female empowerment over men.
SEATTLE UNIVERSITY NEWSPAPER PROTESTS SUPERBOWL COMMERCIAL PROMOTING THE OPTION OF CHOOSING LIFE
Yes it’s true. The innocent little ad in which Tim Tebow’s (Heismann trophy winner) mom alludes to a difficult pregnancy decision in the face of being encouraged to abort little unborn Tim, has garnered even the anger of the Seattle University newspaper. Readers are encouraged in a Feb 3, 2010 edition to protest the pro-life ad by signing petitions against CBS’s airing of it.
It’s really not surprising that such an article would come from a Seattle University newpaper. Just a five years ago a philosophy professor at Seattle U. published a book entitled A Brief Liberal Catholic Defense of Abortion in which he supports abortion well into the 3rd trimester and compares abortion to “mowing grass” and “pruning a rose bush.”

And just a few months ago an interfaith dialogue on abortion was held (only faiths which promoted abortion were were asked to participate.)

SADDEST PART
The saddest part of this story is that there is no indication that Seattle University is ashamed or embarrassed by what is taking place on it’s “” Catholic?"" campus. Parents and potential students might begin to wonder how Seattle University can in good conscience consider themselves Catholic when they allow such perverse distortions of Catholic teaching on faith and morals to take place.

BOTTOM LINE:

If you want an authentically Catholic education for your child and are considering Seattle University as an option-----SAVE YOUR MONEY. Your child can encounter all kinds of sin and perversion at a state school for a lot less and without the confusion of bobble-headed Jesuit priests nodding in assent to it.

ALTERNATIVES:

The Cardinal Newman Society has a recommended list of Catholic colleges which still remain faithful to Catholic teaching. They are as follows : Ave Maria University, Aquinas College (Tenn.), Belmont Abbey College, Benedictine College, The Catholic University of America, Christendom College, The College of Saint Thomas More (Texas), DeSales University, Franciscan University of Steubenville, Holy Apostles College & Seminary, John Paul the Great Catholic University, Magdalen College, Mount St. Mary’s University, Our Lady Seat of Wisdom Academy, St. Gregory’s University, Southern Catholic College, Thomas Aquinas College, The Thomas More College of Liberal Arts (N.H.), University of Dallas, University of St. Thomas (Texas), and Wyoming Catholic College.

Research, led by Andrew Gillen, PhD, a leading expert on college affordability issues found that average tuition for students at the recommended faithful Catholic colleges is nearly $3,000 less than at other Catholic colleges and about $1,000 less than the average private college. In addition, the Newman Guide colleges provide a larger percentage of financial aid (39%) than the average private college (29%).
“The combination of faithful Catholic education and lower costs should put Newman Guide colleges at the top of any family’s list as they begin to make decisions on which college to attend in the fall,” he added.
The study can be accessed online at: www.TheNewmanGuide.com
 
Its a Jesuit university. What do you expect from a Jesuit University? John Carroll in Cleveland is just as worse. They dont sell serve their students products with tomatoes because the administration think the illegal immigrant workers in Florida are slaves to the capitalist system. Many of the John Carroll professors are radical feminists. And they charge a fortune in tuition for the privilege of this kind of indoctrination. Christendom might not take federal aid but if you want a good Catholic college that is an example of a good one. Steubenville, Ave Maria, Wyoming are other examples.
 
USF (another Jesuit University) is just as bad. My husband is in a graduate program and was recently asked by a professor “why the hell” he was going to school there because he’s an orthodox Catholic. I also did a couple posts on my blog earlier this month about the pagan god statues they had set up in the gallery they’ve made in a part of the chapel that used to house confessionals.

Then there’s my alma mater. Saint Mary’s College of California. They seem to go out of their way to deny Church teachings every single chance that they get. Pre-conversion I even had a professor set up a internship for me at Planned Parenthood as part of a class assignment. And they also named a scholarship after a Planned Parenthood director this past month.

Yup, there’s a lot to be disappointed with lately with certain Catholic colleges. My husband will definitely be picking his next school more carefully (we’re praying the Angelicum works out!).
 
Well said. I was going to shorten the answer by asking; can you spell “Liberal?” But its been well documented.
 
Well----I have been disseminating this info about Seattle U. anonymously via email to all Seattle parishes. So far I have received an equal amount of supportive and hate mail.

I’ve received some criticism for being anonymous and so I have sent out a second email.

Dear friends,

I have been threatened with a lawsuit for exposing what goes on at Seattle U under the leadership and approval of Jesuit priests. And so, I remain anonymous.

During the Archbishop’s hour on Catholic radio on Friday, he mentioned his frustration with Seattle U. and having to censure the school repeatedly.

You cannot thumb your nose at Church teachings on issues of morality and call yourself Catholic.

The Catholic Church does have apostalates to help those who have experienced abortion or struggle with same sex attraction-----Project Rachel and Courage. And the Church encourages respect and compassion for these individuals.

Seattle U. does not seek to help and save the sinner, but rather encourages the sinner to continue sinning. I imagine this is very confusing to students who come from good Catholic homes.

I send this letter out primarily as a warning to parents who may be considering sending their sons or daughters to this institution.

marys messenger
 
Mary’s Messenger

How is our One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church doing in the Diocese of Seattle?
 
Lormar said:
Mary’s Messenger

How is our One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church doing in the Diocese of Seattle?
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So then the question would be - whats being done about it by the Magisterium? I find it ironic that situations like this occur and no one says or does anything about it in Rome until it becomes an embarrassment like the pedophile scandal here in the US and now the one in Germany.

But let a Catholic talk about SSPX or Sedevacantism and this forum explodes with Anathemas. But I am certain that no one would object If I went to a Paul the XI Mass in ANY Chapel in the entire Diocese of Seattle provided they are in UNION with ROME , right?

Thus the hypocrisy.
 
“You cannot thumb your nose at Church teachings on issues of morality and call yourselves Catholic.”

Why not? They’ve been doing it since Humanae Vitae and getting away with it. Plus, they’re given a fabulous send-off by the Church when they die.
 
Does anyone know of a particular reason Jesuit operated universities have become increasingly liberal over the years?
 
PA650 said:
Does anyone know of a particular reason Jesuit operated universities have become increasingly liberal over the years?
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Jesuits tend to be very academic. They like to think a lot about philosophy and theology, and to discuss those things. It can be very tempting to delve into heresy because it often looks new, and makes people look at things in a way they hadn’t thought of looking at them before. The Church already has a lot of theology- to explore philosophy and theology in the areas that are acceptable to the Church, you have to find some way to go even deeper than all the Catholic theologians and philosophers of the past- to say something Catholic that no Catholic has ever said before- that’s pretty tough to do, because there is already so much out there. It is much easier to step out of line with the Church, because that can happen in as many ways as you can imagine, so you don’t have to step very far out of line to say something new. That’s a lot easier than trying to say something faithful to the Church that none of the great philosophers and theologians of the past haven’t even considered.
 
SpaceNeedle said:
Go Zags. LOL
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I recieved a letter from a woman whose son went to Gonzaga. A Jesuit priest there told him it wasn’t necessary at all to attend Mass to be close to God. He hasn’t been to church since.
 
I am asking everyone who reads here to send an email to the pope
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[email]benedictxvi@vatican.va[/email][/email]  asking him to sever all Catholic ties with Seattle University.
There is no intent on the part of any of the religious leaders at this Seattle University to change. They have been censured for years by the archbishop. As a Seattle resident, I am embarassed by and fed up with this institution.
 
Holy Cross College in nearby Worcester Mass is another Jesuit school which I had heard mixed things about, but one recent development looks promising - thsi Friday they are having a sung Mass in the Extraordinary Form 🙂 for the Feast of St. Joseph. So maybe there is hope yet.
 
RedSoxWife said:
USF (another Jesuit University) is just as bad. My husband is in a graduate program and was recently asked by a professor “why the hell” he was going to school there because he’s an orthodox Catholic. I also did a couple posts on my blog earlier this month about the pagan god statues they had set up in the gallery they’ve made in a part of the chapel that used to house confessionals.

Then there’s my alma mater. Saint Mary’s College of California. They seem to go out of their way to deny Church teachings every single chance that they get. Pre-conversion I even had a professor set up a internship for me at Planned Parenthood as part of a class assignment. And they also named a scholarship after a Planned Parenthood director this past month.

Yup, there’s a lot to be disappointed with lately with certain Catholic colleges. My husband will definitely be picking his next school more carefully (we’re praying the Angelicum works out!).
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Whatever University he decides upon, I just hope it’s not one of the Jesuit’s. That once great order has been destroyed. There are now more former Jesuits than active Jesuits.

The following article was written 8 yrs. ago, & it’s even more true today than it was then"

[SIGN]Jesuits Implode(USF)

Were Ignatius of Loyola alive today, the Jesuit order he founded wouldn’t ordain him. His once-formidable society is now a corrupt club for homosexual dilettantes and anti-papal dissenters. Real Catholics need no longer apply.

The order is in the throes of a collapse as historically significant as its suppression in 1773. This disintegration, known to traditional Catholics for years (and to bishops too cowardly to stifle its corruption), is now even admitted by liberal pundits. Garry Wills’ article about the book “Passionate Uncertainty: Inside the American Jesuits” appears in the New York Review of Books under the title, “Jesuits in Disarray.” Jonathan Kirsch, a Los Angeles Times reviewer of the same book, notes that the order is in demographic free fall: “former Jesuits now outnumber active Jesuits in the United States.”

Meanwhile, traditional Jesuits who stay and seek to recover the order’s original spark find themselves in exile. The office for the Jesuit Province in California confirmed to TAP that Joseph Fessio, the prolific San Francisco Jesuit publisher of orthodox books and publications, has been ordered to leave San Francisco for a new assignment, effective in May, at an obscure Catholic hospital in Duarte, California. Fessio’s banishment coincides with his recent announcement to start a traditional Catholic school called Campion College next door to the openly dissenting Jesuit University of San Francisco, a school which in recent years has advertised such pagan oddities as a “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Student Alliance.”[/SIGN]
 
Evangelization isn’t some project set in stone. It means reaching out and finding a way to dialogue with people who formerly may have had no interest in conversing with you in the first place. If the first century church would have remained some inert force linked to Judaism Christianity would have died. Thank God for progressives like Peter and Paul.

Sorry, but life is messier than catechism categories and citations. If we’re called to evanglize we sure better not be afraid of meeting people where they’re at. If what we claim is true people will be drawn in and grow - just like the rest of us.

And btw…the Jesuits especially in San Francisco did wonderful things turning a moribund, archdiocesean parish four blocks from the University of San Francisco in the Haight-Ashbury into a thriving Catholic parish. Visit St. Agnes some time if you go to San Francisco. That’s what evangelization looks like!
 
I wonder MJS 1987 if you’ve bothered to visit the Immokalee Workers website. Perhaps you would be surprised to learn that the Catholic bishop of that diocese has also endorsed their efforts to rise above the exploitive conditions under which they live and work.

And believe it or not capitalist systems can enslave people in their own way. While capitalism is better than communism it isn’t without its faults. Catholic social teaching going back to 1891 and continuing through the present has confirmed this.

I’d submit if a Catholic university isn’t offering courses in Catholic social teaching it’s hardly Catholic.
 
We receive SU’s alumni magazine. Noticed in the section, which has marriages, deaths, job info etc, that they started using the term partner instead of husband, wife, or spouse.
I wonder why they do this?(sarc)

Also noticed that they use CE and BCE rather than AD and BC.

I have been throwing away their mail for several years now.
 
I am starting to worry a little about attending Loyoal University in Chicago. I just got accepted there, but for what ever reason I felt that thats where the Lord wants me, I have no idea why. Being 25 and returning to the Church must have it’s benefits as I feel my faith is on more solid foundation. It’s really sad how these groups no linger hide begind the Catholic name, they are becomming much more arrogant and blunt with their views. I feel that this is their desperate attack as they are loosing more power in the Church. But remember an injured animal thats desperate is a much more dangerous animal than a healthy one.
 
Why have Jesuit universities gone this way? I just retired from a “Catholic university” in the Eastern U.S. with many such problems. And so for example the sister-President of the school founded the gay group (who are not celebate) that meets–and meets in the Campus ministry. Why have these things happened since the 1960s at Catholic universities? I have decided that is simply due to pride. Those at universities can easily come to consider themselves superior. Due to pride, they follow their own judgements rather than the Church’s teaching and liturgical law.
The Jusits were noted for their intellectual culture and training. So they faced special temptations to intellectual pride and a loss of humility, temptations to which those in U.S. higher education unfortunately fell.
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Does anyone know of a particular reason Jesuit operated universities have become increasingly liberal over the years?
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