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liquidpele
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Wow. Just wow.
I mean, the court ruling is interesting, I wouldn’t mind reading the judge’s ruling to see his reasoning there…
The rest of the video is perhaps one of the most ignorant and deceiving propaganda videos I’ve ever seen. Ever. I’m not a big Obama fan, or Dawkins fan, but the ad hominem attacks on everything not USA religious-conservative was so thick you could taste it.
I mean, the court ruling is interesting, I wouldn’t mind reading the judge’s ruling to see his reasoning there…
The rest of the video is perhaps one of the most ignorant and deceiving propaganda videos I’ve ever seen. Ever. I’m not a big Obama fan, or Dawkins fan, but the ad hominem attacks on everything not USA religious-conservative was so thick you could taste it.
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James_S_Saint
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You must not watch Atheist videos much.
Ooorrrr… perhaps its just that colored glasses thing.
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liquidpele
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I try not to. A lot of the atheist videos are pretty bad too.You must not watch Atheist videos much.
Ooorrrr… perhaps its just that colored glasses thing.
Youtube is the cesspool of “I’m right” propaganda when it comes to religions or political topics.
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James_S_Saint
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The next major revelation will be the demonstration that Secularism and Satanism are actually one and the same thing.
But that one will be a while in coming…patience.
But that one will be a while in coming…patience.
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James_S_Saint
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I even had a short Blog on it on a rather bizarre Atheist site, if you are interested;
The Secular Religion
It merely points out;
I had been arguing the details for years and finally in a short disconcerted moment, I just let loose.God == Evolution
Holy Order == Socialism
Science Consortium == Lord and Master
Science Magazines == Scriptures
Scientists == Prophets
Scientific Method == Holy Ritual
Thinking == Best left to superiors
Morality == “Don’t get caught”
To Love == Secularism
To Hate == Christians
Faithful, belligerent, do-or-die devotee; “Jawbone of an ass” == …doone
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liquidpele
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WTF is “secularism”? I mean, secular governments are wonderful as they allow for freedom of religion, but I suspect this is not what you are referring to?The next major revelation will be the demonstration that Secularism and Satanism are actually one and the same thing.
Second, after looking into it, the court case cited is stating that you cannot discriminate against groups that do not believe in a God because they are also religiously oriented. It expands the legal definition of a religion to include atheist for religious protection reasons.
caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=367&invol=488
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism#Controversy
atheism.about.com/library/decisions/religion/bl_l_TorcasoWatkins.htm
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James_S_Saint
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Btw, Wiki is hardly a credible reference when it comes to anything vaguely political, but…
The case that you are pointing out is merely what brought the issue to the Court. That case was about non-discrimination based on a belief in God.
The case that you are pointing out is merely what brought the issue to the Court. That case was about non-discrimination based on a belief in God.
But that was upheld based on 101 U.S. App. D.C. 371, 249 F. Which declares that Secular Humanism is, in fact a religion.
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James_S_Saint
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And btw, Secularism is the attempt to believe in “no beliefs”. Which is why it can never succeed.
Currently it merely focuses on the disbelief in God, but it’s aim is to prevent any gathering based on beliefs from reigning. Yet it can never escape that it is a belief system in itself.
Further, and more seriously, if any one religion believes that God is defined to be Truth itself (which many do), then that religion cannot reign over any others which directly says that Truth CANNOT be allowed to reign.
Thus Secularism requires, by law, that the populous always be more greatly deceived than not. This is done through the process formerly known as Satanism - rule through lustful deceptions leading to judgments and condemnations.
Currently it merely focuses on the disbelief in God, but it’s aim is to prevent any gathering based on beliefs from reigning. Yet it can never escape that it is a belief system in itself.
Further, and more seriously, if any one religion believes that God is defined to be Truth itself (which many do), then that religion cannot reign over any others which directly says that Truth CANNOT be allowed to reign.
Thus Secularism requires, by law, that the populous always be more greatly deceived than not. This is done through the process formerly known as Satanism - rule through lustful deceptions leading to judgments and condemnations.
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liquidpele
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The attempt to believe in “no beliefs” is a simplification… we all believe things all the time. I think this label then is meaningless and should not be brought up in serious discussion.
God is defined to be truth because it’s the argument for the religion. A religion that claims it didn’t have “truth” behind it wouldn’t last very long now would it? By the way, Buddhism is one that claims to have truth that does not involve a God.
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James_S_Saint
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If the God itself is defined as “the Truth, whatever that Truth might be”, then your concern is invalid. You are seeing what they claim through biased eyes.
All religions and governments claim that they “are the truth”. But how many actually claim that “Truth, whatever that turns out to be, is what we worship and will obey”?
Not being able to know for certain exactly what the real truth is, is what brings that lack of definition with which you are so familiar. They claim, “We can’t know Truth, we can only have faith that it exists and give it a name, but is in all places, contains all knowledge, and is all powerful.”
But any such religion making such a claim in a Secular governed world, must be kept isolated from spreading such a devotion, else the Secular concern gets overcome by too many people following actual truth. It loses the diversity and conflict that brings its wealth and control.
"I AM that which IS" (and you can’t conceive of whatever that might be)
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Kamalayka
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Watch TV and see how much anti-Christian sentiment there is.
Ever see “Family Guy”?
They devote entire episodes to making fun of God and Christianity, yet, not once have they ever made fun of liberals or atheists.
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James_S_Saint
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Almost everything out of Hollywood for 40 years has been very anti-Christian. The priests are always weak or corrupt. The cross no longer has power against the evil monster. Whereas the Jew is all good and wise.
It is 100% psychological programming of the masses. They have specific courses to teach how. It is a game of manipulation of beliefs and steering who to love and who to hate on a deeply psychological level.
It is 100% psychological programming of the masses. They have specific courses to teach how. It is a game of manipulation of beliefs and steering who to love and who to hate on a deeply psychological level.
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liquidpele
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The creator of Family Guy is atheist… so that’s not surprising. If you liked that, you should check out Moral Oral.
But seriously, please stop with the persecution claims and “atheists are taking over” BS. The country is like 70% Christian, so even if TV and movies were non-Christian, it seems the huge majority of Christian Americans don’t mind this - or even like the fact that it doesn’t focus on religious notions all the time. Claiming it’s a conspiracy is ridiculous and pure paranoia. TV networks and Film companies will put out anything that makes money (see Transformers… ugh was that horrible). If you think Christian oriented TV and film will sell well, start up a business and put your money where your mouth is.
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Matthias123
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I do concur with this. It isn’t really that atheism is persecuting us, it is that the vaules of secular society are currupting us. Atheism is on the rise in places such as Europe, but I don’t see it as a perseucution. The problem is not with atheists the problem is with the Christians not behaving how Christians should.
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Oreoracle
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Actually, the newest episode of Family Guy was committed to making fun of Judaism. 
Saying that Family Guy is anti-Christian is misleading because Family Guy is anti-everything. It’s satire.
To quote a different episode of Family Guy:
(Peter is in the middle of a speech pertaining to Jesus’ role in the tradition of Christmas, getting several details wrong in the process)
Anonymous Man #1: “He can’t just speak these blasphemies! I’m gonna get up there and do something!”
Anonymous Man #2: “Paul (I believe it was Paul), there’s nothing you can do.”
Paul: “Oh, well, I guess I’ll just have to develop a sense of humor!”
Saying that Family Guy is anti-Christian is misleading because Family Guy is anti-everything. It’s satire.To quote a different episode of Family Guy:
(Peter is in the middle of a speech pertaining to Jesus’ role in the tradition of Christmas, getting several details wrong in the process)
Anonymous Man #1: “He can’t just speak these blasphemies! I’m gonna get up there and do something!”
Anonymous Man #2: “Paul (I believe it was Paul), there’s nothing you can do.”
Paul: “Oh, well, I guess I’ll just have to develop a sense of humor!”
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Kamalayka
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I would say 70% claim to be Christian.The creator of Family Guy is atheist… so that’s not surprising. If you liked that, you should check out Moral Oral.
But seriously, please stop with the persecution claims and “atheists are taking over” BS. The country is like 70% Christian, so even if TV and movies were non-Christian, it seems the huge majority of Christian Americans don’t mind this -
I would bet that about 0.5% of them were ACTUAL Christians.
( I am not playing the “holier than thou” card- I am far from being Christ-like.)
If you can name even just one episode, or even one line where they explicitly make fun of either atheism, materialism, liberalism, or so-called “rationalism,” I will admit that I am wrong.
The last time I ever watched that show was when they cut to a scene of the Stewie watching Jesus masturbate in a tub.And what is their response? They say, “get a sense of humor”???
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