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simply can’t bear modern secular music for 1 min. :banghead: methinks all modern music should be thrown into fire. I also never believe Christian music can be composed for jazz and rock.
 
Wasn’t it St. Thomas Aquinas who said that the definition of beauty is “That which when seen (or heard in this case); pleases.”

In this case I have to go with that which makes me turn my heart to those things which are above, whether it is my pure love and desire for my beloved wife (Santana’s Love of My Life) (Ever read Song of Solomon? Whew!!!) or to consider what might make a person want to throw away their life for some spiritual deception, (Don’t Fear the Reaper, Hotel California) or just the emptiness of the lives that produce so much of the lyrics that we hear today. Still: consider Creed, whose songs almost always point to some aspect of a relationship to God. (Higher, My Own Prison, With Arms Wide Open.) or even back to 60’s music with it’s neverending call for social justice and the emptiness of materialism as well as so many of the anti-war songs.

Music should provoke us…if it is offensive then turn it off (I do), but when a song causes me to consider how my relationship with God applies to what is being said then perhaps the Holy Spirit is there. I think that stupidity and overt obscenity are not only offensive but are desecrating to the nature of music as well,so that gets turned off, but I love some of the questions I hear todays rock songs asking questions that I know I have answers for in my heart because of my relationship with the Almighty. Cherry pick and choose your music, but use it to make openings to share your faith with people who identify with those empty songs that ask those questions about who we are and why we’re here and how can my life be abundantly worth living.
Pax vobiscum, :irish1:
 
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antiaphrodite:
you guys think you have it bad? i’m a frustrated metal fan!!!:o :(😦 i like the music, but the lyrics… smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_4.gif
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I know what you mean. I’m a frustrated industrial, and darkwave fan.😦

Unfortunately, most industrial has the same attitude of antipathy for religion, and Christianity in particular, as it compliments a recurring theme of rebellion, and alienation from humanity, and society in general.

My best friend listens to the same type of music as I do, and she says she is getting rid of most of her CDs, since they serve no productive purpose for the better. She’s right. Music, and industrial, in particular, has meant A LOT to both of us for years now, which is why it’s so hard for us to surrender some of it. Listening to blasphemous lyrics isn’t going to influence us enough to make us stop dead in our tracks, and denounce our belief that God exists, but blasphemy against God is also definitely not something we should be holding dear, and important to our lives. Of course, not all of our CDs contain such offensive lyrics, so we’re not going to get rid of all of them, but a good portion of them do. We’re making ourselves subject to some severe ridicule right now. In fact, if some people I know read this post, they’d have a good laugh for months. But no one ever said trying to live a more righteous life was easy.
 
Lisa N:
Say would anyone have suggestions for music to send to a soldier in either Iraq or Afghanistan? I am sending a package to “My Soldier” and one of the things they suggest is a CD of music. You are not supposed to send religious music so I’m trying to find something inoffensive from the secular realm. I do not know the soldier who will receive my package as yet so I have no clue about what kind of music he/she likes. A friend who is also doing this project sent some country western “remakes” by the Eagles. That sounded relatively inoffensive and something that has broad appeal.

Any suggestions? “Greatest Hits” of someone? Grammy award winners (yikes will there be rap on that one?). I don’t HAVE to send music but it was one of the items suggested that is hard for the soldiers to get while overseas.
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Well, as for music that almost everybody seems to like, I would suggest the “Remember the Titans” soundtrack, as it has a good mix of oldies that everyone seems to like. I bought it for my sister and though I generally don’t listen to oldies (classic rock/alternative fan myself), I find myself borrowing the CD more and more often. Everyone I play it for loves it. Check it out, it is a great CD.

Eamon
 
sea oat:
I know what you mean. I’m a frustrated industrial, and darkwave fan.😦
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industrial, darkwave, ah yes…🙂
sea oat:
My best friend listens to the same type of music as I do, and she says she is getting rid of most of her CDs, since they serve no productive purpose for the better. She’s right. Music, and industrial, in particular, has meant A LOT to both of us for years now, which is why it’s so hard for us to surrender some of it.
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my sympathies!
sea oat:
Listening to blasphemous lyrics isn’t going to influence us enough to make us stop dead in our tracks, and denounce our belief that God exists
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true, at least not immediately, especially for those who have a strong faith. but in the long run…
sea oat:
but blasphemy against God is also definitely not something we should be holding dear, and important to our lives.
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of course.
sea oat:
We’re making ourselves subject to some severe ridicule right now. In fact, if some people I know read this post, they’d have a good laugh for months. But no one ever said trying to live a more righteous life was easy.
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yep, it’s hard, but do-able:)

keep up the good work!🙂 👍 we’ll be praying for you.

:blessyou:
 
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turboEDvo:
Well, as for music that almost everybody seems to like, I would suggest the “Remember the Titans” soundtrack, as it has a good mix of oldies that everyone seems to like. I bought it for my sister and though I generally don’t listen to oldies (classic rock/alternative fan myself), I find myself borrowing the CD more and more often. Everyone I play it for loves it. Check it out, it is a great CD.

Eamon
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Thank you! I prefer to get a personal opinion than look at what’s ‘hot’ at the music store.

Lisa N
 
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Poisson:
I was listening to a radio program where a priest was being interviewed who was suggesting that most if not all secular music is evil. He mentioned a few examples, he said that Queen songs are all about homosexuality and Hotel California glamorizes hell to name a few. He most songs have underlying themes of sex, drugs or satanic messages. Even if they are not overt there are things that your subconcious will pick up on.
Last week I was reading Jimmy Akins blog and he said that you can refuse to accept the subtext of a song I quote: “I can take the song in whatever sense I want in the privacy of my own mind…”
His example was “Looking Out My Back Door” by CCR. There are many many songs which could fit this bill.
So what do you think. Where do we draw the line at what we will accept in secular music.
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What is wrong with “Lookin out my back door”? I have no idea what that song is about. Its basicly like a bunch of lines thrown together. It sounds like a circus.
 
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jimmy:
What is wrong with “Lookin out my back door”? I have no idea what that song is about. Its basicly like a bunch of lines thrown together. It sounds like a circus.
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I’m curious as well. Do do do, lookin’ out my back door…I just don’t see anything too satanic about it. Silly but not satanic.

CCR was pretty light as far as lyrics go but at least there was a MELODY unlike today’s rap and hip hop. The appeal of that genre is simply lost on me. They often play rap at my health club. One day I listened to the lyrics and complained at the front desk. ‘There you go jus’ shakin yo a**, shakin’ yo a**, shakin’ yo a**" over and over and over. I about lost it and told them that if they looked around the club, most of the people were over 40, white and probably not real fans of that kind of music. OK rant mode off!

Lisa N
 
Lisa N:
I’m curious as well. Do do do, lookin’ out my back door…I just don’t see anything too satanic about it. Silly but not satanic.

CCR was pretty light as far as lyrics go but at least there was a MELODY unlike today’s rap and hip hop. The appeal of that genre is simply lost on me. They often play rap at my health club. One day I listened to the lyrics and complained at the front desk. ‘There you go jus’ shakin yo a**, shakin’ yo a**, shakin’ yo a**" over and over and over. I about lost it and told them that if they looked around the club, most of the people were over 40, white and probably not real fans of that kind of music. OK rant mode off!

Lisa N
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Yeah, I agree, CCR knew how to make music. Rap is not music.
 
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antiaphrodite:
you guys think you have it bad? i’m a frustrated metal fan!!!:o :(😦 i like the music, but the lyrics… smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_4.gif
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I have sympathy for you. I am/was a metallica fan myself. I love the sound of really hard guitars. I have a fifteen year old son who has inheriated my younger taste. I am torn between giving him a moral lecture and asking him to turn the music up.😛

I also like some country but only by the rebels like Hank William JR. and Johnie Cash. I guess that isn’t much better, actually.

I’m not that wild about secular Christian music and I hate slow, love songs. So I often feel that I’m left with nothing to listen to.

I did attend a very fundamentalist church were all rock music, even Christian, was considered evil. I am so happy that I no longer belong to that church
 
The whole discussion is amusing in a way. In 1961, I remember a particular song called “Quarter of Three” by Gary US bonds, being banned from radio. It was said that the song contained the word “hell”. All us kids used to slow the 45 RPM down to 33 1/2 to hear the word but it was so garbled that we never did hear it. THAT was controversial!
Some songs just stick in your head that you wish you’d never heard to begin with because they are not the stuff of “good” thought. Maybe it’s a Satanic way of messing with our minds.
 
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deb1:
I have sympathy for you. I am/was a metallica fan myself. I love the sound of really hard guitars. I have a fifteen year old son who has inheriated my younger taste. I am torn between giving him a moral lecture and asking him to turn the music up.😛
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LOL! my sympathies. we’ll be praying for you.

(p.s. metallica pre-“load”, after, or both? just curious:D )
 
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catsrus:
The whole discussion is amusing in a way. In 1961, I remember a particular song called “Quarter of Three” by Gary US bonds, being banned from radio. It was said that the song contained the word “hell”. All us kids used to slow the 45 RPM down to 33 1/2 to hear the word but it was so garbled that we never did hear it. THAT was controversial!
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wow. things have changed, huh? 😃
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catsrus:
Some songs just stick in your head that you wish you’d never heard to begin with because they are not the stuff of “good” thought. Maybe it’s a Satanic way of messing with our minds.
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maybe:) 😉
 
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Poisson:
Maybe maybe not. When I listen to a song by Melissa Etheridge, there are some very sensual lyrics, I can listen to them and apply them to my relationship to my wife even though I am certain she was writting them about her lesbian lover. Something like we are the Champions is usually used in a sport context however it would be safe to say that Freddie was writting about the homosexual struggle since he cared nothing about sport.
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I once worked with a lady with a strong devotion to the Blessed Mother despite the fact that this lady was also an astrologer (Makes you wonder why some fundamentalist Protestants admire us so). Every time a Melissa Etheridge song would come on the radio at work she would say, “There’s that devil lady again.” When I asked her what she meant, she said listen to the words of her songs. When I did, I found that she mentioned the devil numerous times. Needless to say, it came as no surprise to me when Melissa Etheridge came out and declared she was a lesbian.

Personally, I grew up with all types of music. Much of it about sex and love and money (and sticking it to the man). It doesn’t phase me because, unless I really like the song, I don’t take it to heart.
 
I used to go out a lot with my friends and we’d dance to a lot of hip-hop, rap music, and some pop, that probably wasn’t very Christian…I feel kinda bad sometimes 'cause I still listen to that kinda stuff on occasion…I just really like the beat of the music. And Christian rock is so…I just don’t like it.

I am also a fan of alt and metal. Lately I’ve been getting into the punky bands, I saw Blink 182 in concert last summer. Good Charlotte is another favorite, and Simple Plan.
To the Metallica fans out there…I’m one of you…listening to them sparked my interest in hard rock in the first place.
As I get a little older (22 soon…yikes) I’ve found some country that I like too, not a lot, but some, as my husband listens to it practically exclusively…
Sheesh, I guess I like pretty much everything, huh. :o 😛
 
I’m glad someone besides me picked “All secular music is of the devil” so I’m not alone : )
 
I think if you are into metal/hardcore and don’t want to go the secular route you are pretty much out of luck. Somehow listening to angsty kids scream about struggling in their walk with Jesus doesn’t quite measure up alongside slayer.
 
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