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What happens to a reigning pope that publically proclaims heresy during his reign? Does he lose the office?
He does, as SFD has said. but to be honest there is no infallible statements from popes on the topic of already validly elected popes. But there are no statements to the contrary.
Pope Paul IV “Cum ex Apostolatus Officio” only applies prior to election.
Saints who proclaimed that if God allowed a valid pope to proclaim heresy, that pope would ipso facto lose his dignity as pope and automatically place himself outside the Church. He cannot be the head of what he is not a part of.
 
He does, as SFD has said. but to be honest there is no infallible statements from popes on the topic of already validly elected popes. But there are no statements to the contrary.
Pope Paul IV “Cum ex Apostolatus Officio” only applies prior to election.
The saints who proclaimed that if God allowed a valid pope to proclaim heresy, that pope would ipso facto lose his dignity as pope and automatically place himself outside the Church. He cannot be the head of what he is not a part of.
Actually, the theologians all teach that a non-Catholic cannot hold office in the Church. This is a matter of Divine Law.
St Robert Bellarmine:
"Therefore, the true opinion is the fifth, according to which the Pope who is manifestly a heretic ceases by himself to be Pope and head, in the same way as he ceases to be a Christian and a member of the body of the Church; and for this reason he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the opinion of all the ancient Fathers, who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction, and outstandingly that of St. Cyprian (lib. 4, epist. 2) who speaks as follows of Novatian, who was Pope * in the schism which occurred during the pontificate of St. Cornelius: ‘He would not be able to retain the episcopate *, and, if he was made bishop before, he separated himself from the body of those who were, like him, bishops, and from the unity of the Church.’

“There is no basis for that which some respond to this: that these Fathers based themselves on ancient law, while nowadays, by decree of the Council of Constance, they alone lose their jurisdiction who are excommunicated by name or who assault clerics. This argument, I say, has no value at all, for those Fathers, in affirming that heretics lose jurisdiction, did not cite any human law, which furthermore perhaps did not exist in relation to the matter, but argued on the basis of the very nature of heresy. The Council of Constance only deals with the excommunicated, that is, those who have lost jurisdiction by sentence of the Church, while heretics already before being excommunicated are outside the Church and deprived of all jurisdiction. For they have already been condemned by their own sentence, as the Apostle teaches (Tit. 3:10-11), that is, they have been cut off from the body of the Church without excommunication, as St. Jerome affirms.”**

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Actually, the theologians all teach that a non-Catholic cannot hold office in the Church. This is a matter of Divine Law.

SFD
yes that is correct. which is why i said that once he proclaims heresy he places himself outside the church (which makes him non-catholic) and he can’t be pope if he is not a Catholic
 
Can you guys create a new thread? If you want to debate it, let other people participate and this thread is about something else.
 
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