Sedevacantist Marriages

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Why is it that when two baptized Protestants marry (for example Methodist Baptist etc.) their marriage is valid while two members of the sedevacantist sects who are baptized and confirmed in those communities marriages are considered invalid?
 
poche said:
Why is it that when two baptized Protestants marry (for example Methodist Baptist etc.) their marriage is valid
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Because the Church does not currently extend its canonical jurisdiction to those Christians baptized into non-Catholic Churches and ecclesial communities.
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while two members of the sedevacantist sects who are baptized and confirmed in those communities marriages are considered invalid?
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You will need to provide a source for this assertion.
 
If true, it would be because they are Catholics (and thus subject to the Church’s rules regarding marriage), and the required Church witness (the priest or deacon) does not actually have faculties to act in that capacity.
 
If the Catholic Church doesn’t extend its jurisdiction to Christians baptized into non Catholic Churches then how is it that the marriage between two Protestant, baptized into their communities is valid while the marriage between two members of a sedevacantist community who were baptized into that community are not valid?
 
For years now every so often our more traditional groups are visited by members of the clergy who remind us that certain dissident communities are not part of the Catholic Church. I am not arguing with that. What I think is problematic is that situation exists where one who belongs to one non Catholic group (ie the Baptists) can be baptized into that community and then married into that community and their marriage is called valid by the Catholic Church while a person can be born into a family into what a non Catholic community, be baptized into that community, come of age, get “married” and in that case the same Catholic Church that calls our Baptist neighbors’ marriage wedding valid while the sedevacantist marriage is called invalid.
 
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the same Catholic Church that calls our Baptist neighbors’ marriage wedding valid while the sedevacantist marriage is called invalid.
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The reason has to do more with the fact that the sede folks are Catholic- and the Baptists never were. Although if one of the folks in the Baptist wedding were baptized as catholic, converting to the Baptist faith, their marriage would NOT be recognized
 
You were asked for a source to document your claim that the Catholic Church has declared sedevacantist marriages invalid.
 
If the sede folks are Catholic then why do the priests and deacons say that they are not?
 
poche said:
If the Catholic Church doesn’t extend its jurisdiction to Christians baptized into non Catholic Churches then how is it that the marriage between two Protestant, baptized into their communities is valid while the marriage between two members of a sedevacantist community who were baptized into that community are not valid?
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Please supply a source for your assertion that members baptized into a sedevacantist group cannot marry validly.
 
Their marriages are considered valid, as long as they are both in the same religion.
 
poche said:
If the sede folks are Catholic then why do the priests and deacons say that they are not?
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I don’t know who says they’re not.

But if someone has been received into the Catholic Church, they are bound by the rules even if they are associated with a sede group. Catholics are expected to have their marriages in an approved Catholic Church unless they are dispensated.
 
If a person is baptized into a sedevacantist community and the community is recognized as not Catholic then they are not baptized into the Catholic Church. Yet the Catholic Church has an expectation that they would approach them to be married? Yet at the same time the Catholic Church calls their marriages invalid.
 
That only applies to the SSPX and their affiliated communities. It also requires some good will and cooperation on the part of the SSPX priest and the diocese in question. I don’t see that happening where I live.
 
Like many people on this very board, the priests and deacons might be using “not Catholic” to mean “not in line with the Church and not to be followed or imitated,” even when the people involved are Catholics by every objective measure.
 
The people are baptized Catholics. The organization to which they belong is not in line with Catholic teaching.
 
poche said:
Yet at the same time the Catholic Church calls their marriages invalid.
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You keep making this claim then dodging the question: WHERE does the Catholic Church say that their marriages are invalid?

Why do you think this?
 
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