Seeing an exorcist

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TheHolyTrinity said:
There is no chain of command. If you feel that your pastor will not take you seriously, there is no point going there. Been there done that, disheartening and delayed with significant spiritual detriment of a family member in need.

Please phone the secretary of your diocese, state that you have a preternatural concern and ask to have contact with the diocese exorcist. Now most times there is a lay person that work alongside the exorcist and if so you may be referred to to that person first.

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That’s completely wrong on every point.

The diocese WILL NOT put someone in contact with an exorcist (or his assistant).

That is not how things are done.

The local pastor investigates first. Then, if he sees a need, he refers the matter to the bishop (or vicar general or vicar forane) who decides on the next steps.

People should not be phoning the diocese asking to speak with the exorcist. That will get you no where.
 
MtnDwellar said:
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Irishmom2:
Please read Fr. David’s response above to find out the correct answer. There most certainly is a chain of command.
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Please read my post. There can be more than one correct answer.
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No. Not in this case.

The first step is to bring in the local pastor.

The diocese staff will not release the name of any exorcist over the phone—not even if he’s already known to the public.

What the staff will do is say “talk to your local pastor.”
 
Sadly, a couple of “famous internet exorcists” have encouraged a sort of DIY attitude.
 
Hi Father,

Do you have information about this case that was not included on this thread? We have very little info. We don’t know if it’s a case of suspected possession or not. I don’t think the OP was looking for an exorcist on his own behalf. He has responded in the plural, such as “We” tried this or that. I think he is trying to help someone else.

You are correct in saying the diocese does not release the name of an exorcist over the phone. They take your name and number and you get a call back. Some dioceses have deliverance ministries. They handle it the same way. I know that it can work this way, because I’ve done it. My diocese did not have an exorcist and they put me in touch with one of three deliverance ministries. All three are headed by a priest. I’ve known people who have made contact with exorcists both ways. My suggestion was offered as an alternative, if he is not taken seriously by the pastor.

I know one exorcist who has told me to give his contact information to those who need help. He considers advising and praying for people over the phone part of his ministry. I know of several people who were delivered through his prayers.

My suggestion has nothing to do with a DIY attitude. I am suggesting the contrary. My suggestion is a means of getting help. So is yours.
 
FrDavid96 said:
That’s completely wrong on every point. The diocese WILL NOT put someone in contact with an exorcist (or his assistant).

That is not how things are done.
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A person who suspects praeter naturam beyond their control can indeed contact their diocese when parish priests and surrounding parish priests do not hear or understand. One does have the right to the next step. As the OP stated earlier he did not feel that his parish priest would listen.
FrDavid96 said:
The local pastor investigates first.Then, if he sees a need, he refers the matter to the bishop (or vicar general or vicar forane) who decides on the next steps
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In the ‘ideal’ world this is what priests should do. In this secular world not all priests believe that the praeter naturam exists. This is what I was told by three individual priests that: praeter naturam does not exist. This shocked me incredibly, it was my father who directed me to phone the Diocese.
FrDavid96 said:
People should not be phoning the diocese asking to speak with the exorcist. That will get you no where.
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This is not a true reflection of at all. I spoke directly with the Bishop of my diocese and I got immediate help from the diocese in terms of a contact number to the Exorcist assistant and a home visit the next week by both the Exorcist priest and his assistance.
 
TheLittleLady said:
Sadly, a couple of “famous internet exorcists” have encouraged a sort of DIY attitude
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@TheLittleLady your quote is condescending to those who have experienced and had to go through the process of seeking the help of the Church in the praeter naturam.
FrDavid96 said:
That’s very very dangerous. Demons don’t play games.
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Nor do they like it when another person seeks help for the one that the whom the Evil One is trying to ruin.
 
I actually got to sit down with a Priest in my Diocesan Offices. He told me that they have procedures in place for dealing with Exorcism. He seemed pretty open about it. I can’t speak for all Dioceses but I think mine could get someone help pretty quick.
 
MtnDwellar said:
Hi Father,

Do you have information about this case that was not included on this thread? We have very little info. We don’t know if it’s a case of suspected possession or not. I don’t think the OP was looking for an exorcist on his own behalf. He has responded in the plural, such as “We” tried this or that. I think he is trying to help someone else.

You are correct in saying the diocese does not release the name of an exorcist over the phone. They take your name and number and you get a call back. Some dioceses have deliverance ministries. They handle it the same way. I know that it can work this way, because I’ve done it. My diocese did not have an exorcist and they put me in touch with one of three deliverance ministries. All three are headed by a priest. I’ve known people who have made contact with exorcists both ways. My suggestion was offered as an alternative, if he is not taken seriously by the pastor.

I know one exorcist who has told me to give his contact information to those who need help. He considers advising and praying for people over the phone part of his ministry. I know of several people who were delivered through his prayers.

My suggestion has nothing to do with a DIY attitude. I am suggesting the contrary. My suggestion is a means of getting help. So is yours.
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The proper way to handle this is to contact the pastor.

Nothing posted here will change that.

The OP needs to contact the pastor BEFORE considering anything (yes, anything) else.
 
TheHolyTrinity said:
A person who suspects praeter naturam beyond their control can indeed contact their diocese when parish priests and surrounding parish priests do not hear or understand. One does have the right to the next step. As the OP stated earlier he did not feel that his parish priest would listen.

In the ‘ideal’ world this is what priests should do. In this secular world not all priests believe that the praeter naturam exists. This is what I was told by three individual priests that: praeter naturam does not exist. This shocked me incredibly, it was my father who directed me to phone the Diocese.

This is not a true reflection of at all. I spoke directly with the Bishop of my diocese and I got immediate help from the diocese in terms of a contact number to the Exorcist assistant and a home visit the next week by both the Exorcist priest and his assistance.
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Nothing you wrote here changes anything.

The right thing to do is to contact the pastor.

The WRONG thing to do is to attempt to bypass the pastor and go straight to the diocese—who are only going to refer the matter right back to “contact the pastor first.”

No matter what your personal opinions might be, there is a right way to do things and a wrong way.

You are suggesting the wrong way. It’s that simple.

The OP needs to contact the pastor.
 
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