Self-Mortification

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Oh, maybe I’ve mislead you. I do go to mass and study Church doctrine- it probably makes up the greater part of my life- I just REALLY, REALLY hate it when I do this particular sin because it feels, to me, as if I;ve given right in to Satan. The sin is outlined in section 2352 of the Catechism.
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Make an Act of Contrition, try not to perform this sin again. Do you pray the rosary, or any other devotion? Maybe when the desire to sin comes to mind you should pray (not particularly easy I know, but life isn’t supposed to be, especially the life of the Christian).

Do you have a crucifix, or pictures in the room, you wouldn’t do it in public would you? A visual reminder that you are always in the watchful eye of God, His Angels and His Saints couldn’t hurt.
 
Obedience is a higher form of worship than any pennace you can do upon your self. So your obedience to what your parents and others tell you is what God wants from you.
Gods mercy is greater than any sin you can think of. God knows you desire confession so don’t worry, just pray and love God the best you can until the opportunity for Baptism comes.
 
What is Childern’s Aid…and who are they to tell you that you cannot recieve the Sacrament of Baptism.

If it’s government…God comes first. Giving Cesar his due had to do with secular matters…the other part of it was give God what is God’s. He has control in Spiritual/Religious matters…so it isn’t for the government to say you cannot be baptised.

If it’s your parents…obediance to God is higher. If your parents wanted you to murder…it would still be wrong.
 
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no, to be honest, I was kinda talking about, like, hitting myself with a belt on the back- I really feel like I deserve that for what I’ve just done. I hope I get punished somehow- cause I really deserve it.
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no one as a rule should undertake any penitential practice including and especially corporal mortification, above and beyond the traditional disciplines of the Church (such as the Lenten fasting rules) without permission of one’s confessor and spiritual director. St. John of the Cross, among other orthodox directors, warns about the faults of beginners in going overboard in this area, and why obedience to one’s director is of more spiritual value than the discipline itself. the main reason is exactly what you state, your feelings, because the individual is not the best judge of the state of his soul, nor the best judge of penance that will be helpful. talk to your priest in confession before even considering such a practice.

if you can’t go to confession, make an appointment to talk to him
 
031064 said:
no, to be honest, I was kinda talking about, like, hitting myself with a belt on the back- I really feel like I deserve that for what I’ve just done. I hope I get punished somehow- cause I really deserve it.
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A moderate amount of that kind of thing is not a bad idea. We tend to over-do it with pleasures of every kind – and when that goes into sinful pleasures, some compensating punishment is a good remedy. Again, to a moderate degree, what you mentioned will not do permanent damage and can provide some healing of sin. Moderate fasting also – giving up things you enjoy at times – is something very good to add to this. That kind of self-punishment can help free you from guilt. Confession is the best and fullest remedy, of course, but we still need to make up for sins in the past.
 
I believe that there’s some official statement on self mortification. I’d look it up if I were you.
 
I am in a somewhat similar situation. I have the same sin upon my soul that I feel so guilty for, but thanks be to God, He granted a large amount of grace to me and I haven’t done it for two and a half years. I am a baptized Christian, but I am not Catholic. I want so badly to go to Confession, but I cannot because of parents. I am eighteen, but still cannot because my father feels I should wait until I am married, and since I am living under his roof I have to be obedient. I feel like I am sinning against God for not becoming Catholic. However, someone told me that I am receiving graces from God for being obedient to my parents and that this is God’s plan for me. Oh, how I cannot wait until I move out!

I would also not suggest mortification. If not done under spiritual instruction, it can get out of hand and actually be detrimental to the spiritual life. A person can abuse their bodies which are temples of the Holy Spirit, or they may become proud. Trusting in the mercy of God is, in my opinion, worth a lot more than any corporeal mortification.
 
they help abused kids get into loving homes (in this case, I was so blessed to get into my aunt’s home). I can’t get baptised because, in Canada, we have 2 children’s aids, a Catholic and Public- I am with the public (I was not relgious before moving in with my aunt 6 years ago). Now, we have to hire a lawyer and go to court to switch children’s aids, this would take a long/longer than the 2 years I have to wait (canada’s courts are backed up heavily).
 
After I got offline I remembered about Devine Mercy Sunday this week… Like Helen Rose said look into to it I learned that it is for everyone not just Catholics. See what you can do. I still think you should talk to a priest. As a matter of fact call your parish now and get back to us on this thread!!!
 
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