Senior German Priest Calls Homosexuality a Sickness. A Report

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Lets cut to the chase. You can be pro-“queering the Church,” as they say, all you want. Christ will come. And sort it out.
Now, stop bothering me. I’m not fooled.
 
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Also, I don’t think that in this day and age people will be glaring and murmuring at someone who is attracted to the same sex. This of course begs the question, how do they know he/she is attracted to the same sex? Did he/she make an announcement or is he/she in a relationship that the parish community has become aware of?
The truth is there is no reason why people have to make their sexual preferences known to others, unless they are doing so for good reason such as telling someone important in their life, or for evangelizing others about this particular topic (testimonials). There of course could be other reasons, but the bottom line is that it is highly unlikely someone will know you are attracted to the same sex unless you make them aware.
Over the years, my same-sex partner and I have attended Lutheran churches (ELCA), a Presbyterian church and an Episcopalian church in our area and although we haven’t made any announcements, after a few Sundays, I’m sure that everyone knows that we’re a couple. We arrive together and leave together and talk to people together before and after church on Sundays. I’m sure that it doesn’t take long before they figure out that we live together. It’s not that hard for most people to put 2 and 2 together. Also, even though we don’t wear signs on our backs that say, “I’m gay”, if people ask, we certainly don’t try to hide anything.

And I’m sure that there are gay Catholic couples who attend some of the more gay-friendly Catholic parishes (there are some of those, or so I’ve heard) and do the same thing we do.

But even if someone was trying to stay chaste and follow the teachings of the Catholic Church, there are some people like that who nevertheless still want to be open about their sexual orientation. Sometimes it’s just easier, I’m sure, to not try and keep any secrets and be upfront about it all.
 
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Sis and I live in the same house. Both our kids are grown, and spouses gone. We go everywhere together. We have fun. People gonna think what people gonna think. I’m sure some think we are a lesbian couple, but we’re not. We’re sisters, plain and simple.

Mindset people. If you’re gonna have a dirty mind, that’s on you. Sis occasionally goes to Mass with me. Everyone knows we are sisters. There is no substantive issue. Yet, I’m sure there are still some who think otherwise.

Cardinal Bird said it reasonably. It’s acting on the tendency that is the issue. The CCC points that out that the state of the art is such that we don’t fully understand origins same sex attraction. Maybe some day we will.
 
So, if two men or two woman kissed each other during the sign of peace, you would automatically think they were in a gay relationship?
Depends on the kiss. I never seen people kiss someone else on the mouth unless there was some sort of romantic connection. Now that kiss on the cheek thing is different.
 
My older sister is gay and I do believe she has a psychological disorder.
 
One can have a psychological disorder and still be gay.
The point is “being gay” is not the “psychological disorder”.
 
One can have a psychological disorder and still be gay.
The point is “being gay” is not the “psychological disorder”.
That’s what I was thinking. I was going to ask what psychological disorder her sister has?
 
My older sister is gay and I do believe she has a psychological disorder.
Sometimes gay people may suffer from depression or anxiety due to the fact that they’ve been told there’s something evil in them their whole lives or due to fear of how they might get treated if people find out.
 
Deep down inside, even though they may hide it from themselves, they know that the act of sodomy–homosexual sexual intercourse–is wicked and unnatural.
 
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And whomever told you that? The hiding part, I mean.
 
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Lots of Rejection by men and not having a father figure caused her to have identity issues and thus become gay.
 
Then why before 1973 was homosexuality labeled a mental disorder in the DSM. Many Muslims today in the Middle East also see it as such, I’ve talked to several.
 
The thing is, living in such denial, who wouldn’t have at least some psychological issues? But repentance and amending one’s life are the cure. Far cheaper than psychiatric treatment, too!
Thanks be to God!
 
But even if someone was trying to stay chaste and follow the teachings of the Catholic Church, there are some people like that who nevertheless still want to be open about their sexual orientation. Sometimes it’s just easier, I’m sure, to not try and keep any secrets and be upfront about it all.
Yes but what does being “open” about one’s sexuality looks like in a Catholic Parish? I am not saying don’t tell anyone about your feelings, what I am saying is that we don’t need to tell the whole parish who we like.
 
The thing is, living in such denial, who wouldn’t have at least some psychological issues? But repentance and amending one’s life are the cure. Far cheaper than psychiatric treatment, too!
Thanks be to God!
What kind of “cure” do you think might happen?
 
So, are you claiming that psychologists and psychiatrists can never change their mind about something they once claimed was a mental illness or about a treatment they once used? Are you troubled, for example, by the fact that they no longer believe that up to a quarter of women, especially independent minded women, suffer from something called the “vapors”?
In the Victorian era, psychologists claimed one-quarter of women suffered from “the vapors.” The term derived from ancient Greek medical theories based on the four humors of the body. The vapors were caused by an imbalance. Humors in the spleen rose through the body to affect the mind. Women were more likely to catch the disease based on “irregularities” in their anatomy. Symptoms include anxiety, depression, fainting, tremors, and bloating.

Women of independent mind were often diagnosed with the vapors. Suffragettes were particularly vulnerable. Given the wide range of symptoms, vapors diagnosis often impeded the identification of more serious medical conditions like depression, infections, and cancer. In the modern day, the folksy term is used as a joke. For example, it has been used by Colin Powell and journalists Peggy Noonan and Claire Berlinski to cast opponents in a foolish light.
 
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That corsets were generally worn so tight so as to induce fainting and physical defects. But as it’s not relevant to the conversation I regret saying anything.
 
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