Sensus Fidelium - Fr Ripperger

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edwest211 said:
From Washington’s Farewell Address 1796

" Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ?
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Do you think this relates at all to Crimen Solicitationis?
 
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That is not true. The US Supreme Court created a legal fiction in 1947.
 
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That’s just your opinion. Besides, you flagged me in another post. I don’t want to talk to you anymore.
 
It’s more than a prudential judgment. It’s apart of the Ordinary Magisterial teaching of the Church.

It was actually Pope St. Pius X who condemned it.
 
I disagree. The church doesn’t condemn the separation of church and state. We don’t need to live in a church controlled government

What the church has condemned is the idea that the church shouldn’t comment on what happens politically. But they’re entirely separate institutions

Besides the Holy Roman Empire wasn’t that great anyway
 
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Well, the separation of Church State was condemned by the church. It was called a “thesis absolutely false and most pernicious error.” in Vehementur Nos.
 
Maybe the church was wrong to say that

So you’re telling me the Catholic Church thinks every government should be a theocracy?
 
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I disagree.

God is owed private AS WELL AS public cult and social worship. The State has the duty to do that.
 
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That goes against everything I’ve learned. The church doesn’t want everyone to be a Catholic Church controlled theocracy
 
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The state is there to protect its citizens and uphold justice. Not everyone is catholic
 
Where are you getting THAT from? The church is against forced conversions. How can everyone have a duty to be catholic?

Only Catholics have a duty to remain catholic
 
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God desires that everyone be a member of Holy Mother Church. Outside of it there is no salvation. If anyone wants to be saved, as the Athanasian Creed says, he must first and foremost belong to the Catholic Church.
 
That’s not accurate. If someone is saved they’re saved through the Catholic Church and Jesus’ death on the cross but a person can be in the grace of God without being a catholic.

Bishop Robert Barron said this is the case.

You can be in the grace of god without being a catholic. Like the gentile who asked Jesus to just say the word or the good thief

The good thief wasn’t even baptized!!!
 
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semper_catholicus said:
God desires that everyone be a member of Holy Mother Church. Outside of it there is no salvation. If anyone wants to be saved, as the Athanasian Creed says, he must first and foremost belong to the Catholic Church
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You should become more familiar with the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Available online at several different sites.
 
No, the Athanasian Creed does state that if someone wishes to be saved, they must be catholic.

You are right though, in certain circumstances, if someone is invincibly ignorant, and they follow the natural law to the best of their abilities, they can make it to heaven. Thus doesn’t mean that we don’t make an effort to try to win everyone possible over to the Church. It also doesn’t mean that absolutely everyone who isn’t catholic is invincibly ignorant.

The good thief had baptism of desire.

If is a great act of charity to insist that outside the Church there is no salvation.
 
Not all of the sermons are from FSSP priests. I know at least one is a diocesan priest. They’re a mix of FSSP, diocesan and maybe ICKSP. Probably not that last one though.
 
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