Sent in my official resignation letter to the LDS church

  • Thread starter Thread starter Stavros
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
I had a message on my phone last night at 6:38p. It was the bishop from my local ward who needed to talk to me to “facilitate the process” of the name removal. “No pressure”, he just has to “explain some things to me.” Oh, and here’s the creepy part - the caller ID showed the call was made from the concierge desk in my building. It made me think of that old horror movie - “The call is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!!”

Ugh.

It’s been over 30 days, I’ve been running to the mailbox every day, or at least asking my husband when I get home from work, waiting for that letter. And now I have to talk to someone?!

:banghead:
 
Keeping you in prayers…Stavros…I don’t think I would respond…some how find a way to block the call…
 
Yes…Exorcist…people will have to ignore this and not to be intimidated by it. They would be breaking American law, wouldn’t they???
 
Apologies to everyone, especially Mods, if this question is out of order; but it`s been troubling me for decades:

Considering the alleged visions experienced by Joseph Smith, and all of the unique doctrines and practices that he and his successors have taught, including becoming gods or like God (like in Genesis 3:5), is there perhaps diabolical activity involved?
Are former Mormons totally free…?

Why the lack of openness: ie not revealing core LDS teachings?
What about Galatians 1:6-9?

Comments?..if able
 
I had a message on my phone last night at 6:38p. It was the bishop from my local ward who needed to talk to me to “facilitate the process” of the name removal. “No pressure”, he just has to “explain some things to me.” Oh, and here’s the creepy part - the caller ID showed the call was made from the concierge desk in my building. It made me think of that old horror movie - “The call is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!!”

Ugh.

It’s been over 30 days, I’ve been running to the mailbox every day, or at least asking my husband when I get home from work, waiting for that letter. And now I have to talk to someone?!

:banghead:
No, you don’t. He’s bordering on stalking you; in some states, he may already have committed a criminal act.

The law requires nothing but the letter, and their IMMEDIATE action upon it.
 
What happens to a Mormon bishop if he begins to loose too many members?
 
I had a message on my phone last night at 6:38p. It was the bishop from my local ward who needed to talk to me to “facilitate the process” of the name removal. “No pressure”, he just has to “explain some things to me.” …

It’s been over 30 days, I’ve been running to the mailbox every day, or at least asking my husband when I get home from work, waiting for that letter. And now I have to talk to someone?!
Stavros,

One need not start down a path of feeling fearful of ever accidentally meeting up with one’s former friends or associates, just because of having made a different religious choice. There is really no need for feeling fearful or worrying about that, unless that’s a choice one wants to make.

What if the bishop needs to sign off on paperwork that says he confirmed in person the intent of the writer of the letter asking for name removal? (I don’t know, but it’s possible. There are possible reasons for that, such as potential for a forged letter by someone else other than the person whose name was on the letter. There is also potential, somewhere in the world, that someone might have felt forced by another person to have withdrawn by letter–so there are possible reasons that could explain the desire for a brief one-minute face-to-face conversation.)

A wish of peace to you and all.
 
Oh, and here’s the creepy part - the caller ID showed the call was made from the concierge desk in my building. It made me think of that old horror movie - “The call is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!!”

Ugh.
Stavros,

One need not start down a path of feeling fearful of ever accidentally meeting up with one’s former friends or associates, just because of having made a different religious choice.
WOW
 
What happens to a Mormon bishop if he begins to loose too many members?
Kathleen,

I was an LDS bishop a very long time ago. We had one such case of a very sweet member who withdrew. (Years later she called me and said she had kept a letter I had written reminding her that she was always welcome, no hard feelings, and so forth, and that she had recently been re-baptized after so many years. I was glad to hear from her, even if it had not been to tell me that–just to know she and her family were doing well.)

If ten or twenty or thirty members wrote letters all in one brief stretch of time, then probably the stake president who presides over the bishop would review what was happening in the ward. Sometimes a bishop may just be visiting people who had been “listed in the records” but hadn’t been seen or known about for years, and may have let them know of the simple process of having their name taken off the membership records. So then a stake president would understand if that was what had happened for several letters “in a row”.

If half a ward wrote letters, then of course a stake president would need to find out what was happening in the ward, since the dynamics can “snowball” if people get their feelings hurt as a group.
 
Ah, the old “people only leave because they’re feelings are hurt” canard. Apostasy from Mormonism is multifaceted, including folks who are sincere and honest in their search for a testimony, but still don’t obtain one after years of faithful service and seeking.

Korihor
 
Stavros,

One need not start down a path of feeling fearful of ever accidentally meeting up with one’s former friends or associates, just because of having made a different religious choice. There is really no need for feeling fearful or worrying about that, unless that’s a choice one wants to make.

What if the bishop needs to sign off on paperwork that says he confirmed in person the intent of the writer of the letter asking for name removal? (I don’t know, but it’s possible. There are possible reasons for that, such as potential for a forged letter by someone else other than the person whose name was on the letter. There is also potential, somewhere in the world, that someone might have felt forced by another person to have withdrawn by letter–so there are possible reasons that could explain the desire for a brief one-minute face-to-face conversation.)

A wish of peace to you and all.
If he needs verification that it was really sent by Stavros, he can just call and get verbal confirmation. There’s no reason to be all stalker-ish showing up at her job and calling from the concierge desk. That is just weird.
 
Ah, the old “people only leave because they’re feelings are hurt” canard. Apostasy from Mormonism is multifaceted, including folks who are sincere and honest in their search for a testimony, but still don’t obtain one after years of faithful service and seeking.

Korihor
Welcome Korihor. (intersting name choice.)

Mormonism is an offense, in oh so many ways.
 
Stavros,

One need not start down a path of feeling fearful of ever accidentally meeting up with one’s former friends or associates, just because of having made a different religious choice. There is really no need for feeling fearful or worrying about that, unless that’s a choice one wants to make.

What if the bishop needs to sign off on paperwork that says he confirmed in person the intent of the writer of the letter asking for name removal? (I don’t know, but it’s possible. There are possible reasons for that, such as potential for a forged letter by someone else other than the person whose name was on the letter. There is also potential, somewhere in the world, that someone might have felt forced by another person to have withdrawn by letter–so there are possible reasons that could explain the desire for a brief one-minute face-to-face conversation.)

A wish of peace to you and all.
I sent a notarized letter to the church, which proves that it is actually me. No other legal documentation should be necessary for my wishes to be carried out. Any proof that they would need to see that it was really me would be the same that I used to get the paperwork notarized. I also proved that it was me in my original letter by sharing information that would be hard to come by if it were not me, like the date of my baptism, the person who baptized me, and what ward.
 
If half a ward wrote letters, then of course a stake president would need to find out what was happening in the ward, since the dynamics can “snowball” if people get their feelings hurt as a group.
I’m going to borrow liberally from some writing that I did when I was in the process of conversion, because I think these points need to be made again.

The Godwin’s Law of discussions about why Mormons leave the church goes something like this - the argument always degenerates into one of three arguments:
  1. You know in your heart it is true, but you’ve sinned and want to live a sinful lifestyle.
  2. Someone hurt you, didn’t they? You know it’s true but you were hurt and are taking it out on the church. Why do you have so much bitterness?
  3. Why do you attack us? Why do you hurt us?
To answer these questions:
  1. I know in my heart that it is false, and I do my best to live as sin-free life. My confessor would attest to that except for that whole can’t-share-a-confession thing he’s got going on. I pray every day. I go to Mass every day. I do an examination of conscience every night, and do my best to focus on my weaknesses and eliminate them. Plus now I can drink Starbucks and Coke with a clear conscience! Even to this day, I feel a little guilty drinking a Coke. I think I always will. Thanks a lot, Word of Wisdom!
  2. Yes, someone hurt me. A lot of people hurt me. And I allowed myself to be subjected to humiliation and degradation over and over and over because for a long time I believed in the Mormon church. I allowed myself to be treated in such a poor manner because I believed what I was told, that it was true. I did. I’ll admit it. And it hurt like @#$% when someone yanked the foundation for my entire life right out from under me. Once those blinders had been lifted, once I saw the truth, I could never go back to “faking the lies”, no matter how hard I tried.
Why am I bitter? The church that you love so much gave the priesthood to a man who insisted that my father, dying of Stage Four Pancratic Cancer and bedridden in hospice at home, come to the stake center to get his Temple Recommend because the !$&*ing Bishop refused to come to our home. My dying father, wanting to die with the Temple Recommend so that he would be worthy to enter what he assumed was heaven, had to have my mother call the Stake President and SCREAM at him to get someone to come to my father ON HIS DEATHBED to have his interviews.

I was made to feel worthless as a 27 year old single woman because I was not married, because I was a “special spirit” and I was single for a LONG time because I refused to date outside of the church and I couldn’t find anyone to go out with me. I was Mormon for most of my late 20′s. Guess how many dates I went on? Go ahead. I’ve got a moment. That would be ZERO.

TWO MONTHS after leaving the church for good I found a wonderful caring man who didn’t give a FLIP what kind of underwear I wore. I guess I wasn’t that bad after all. Just the Mormon boys thought so. When I left, no one called. No one came by. I didn’t see any “Visiting Teachers” or “Home Teachers”. My name’s on my Ward roster and has been since my brother died in 2002. Wanna know how many times I’ve had visitors from the church? Guess? That would be one. This week. After I sent in my resignation letter

So yeah. I’m bitter. But did I leave the church because of that? No. I left because after all that abuse that I subjected myself to, and begging and pleading, I never received the answer that I begged for. In spite of all of this horrible treatment by multiple people in multiple wards, I was faithful for a very long time. Because I wanted it so bad to be true. And it wasn’t.

I prayed time after time after time in the Celestial Room, begging for any kind of consolation or love from God to show me that what I was doing was pleasing in his eyes, and that the church really was true. And I never, ever got it. I feel God’s love more kneeling in front of the tabernacle at my parish than I ever did in the dozens of sessions of the temple that I went to over the many years I was endowed and going through temple ceremonies multiple times a month.

So am I bitter? Oh, a touch. But trust me. You haven’t seen bitter. You wanna see bitter, I got some sites I can send you to.
  1. Why do I attack you? I don’t even know you! I don’t know you from Adam. (And, btw, for those of you who never make it through the temple, the Adam in their Creation video is HAWT! But not as hot as the Lucifer. Go figure.) But you take every criticism that I give over the hundreds of horrible experiences that I had as a youth, a teen and a young adult as a personal attack to your faith. It’s not.
I bear this witness to you that I believe the Book of Mormon to not be the word of God, except those parts which were lifted straight out of the bible. I do not believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. I believe Thomas S. Monson to be a kind man, but he leads a church based on the lies of a charlatan. I believe the Book of Abraham to be a fraud. I believe that while there are some “great” aspects of the church, such as their welfare program and their ability to weather storms as a coherent group, I do not believe that these positive aspects outweigh the fact that this church leads people away from the true Christ.
 
If he needs verification that it was really sent by Stavros, he can just call and get verbal confirmation. There’s no reason to be all stalker-ish showing up at her job and calling from the concierge desk. That is just weird.
Oh, it wasn’t my work, it was my home. Which is weirder.

I got on Google and found the email addresses of both the Bishop and the Stake President listed on the letter from the corporate offices. At least I’m assuming it’s them, as there were not a lot of people with identical names and bachelor’s degrees from BYU. Also, apparently the bishop and stake president are both lawyers in the area - good to know the LDS church is still rewarding the wealthy and high in status with prominent positions in the church. Also, yay for dorky Mormon names! It makes it much easier to find people via Google.

I sent an email to Greg Dodge and my building manager, with a CC to these men’s email addresses. This is what was said:
Please see attached letters, dated 5/31/2011 and 6/9/2011 for my original statement of resignation, and response from the corporate headquarters verifying that my request was received.

I received a phone call to my personal cell phone from the [my high rise] concierge’s phone number on Tuesday at 6:38p, with a message left by Bishop SXXX of the DXXX Ward in the DXXX Stake. It appears that the “no contact” request in my original letter to the corporate headquarters of the LDS church was ignored and that Mr. SXXX made an attempt to visit me at my home. I have copied the property manager of [my high rise] Building on this letter to advise her that permission is not granted to any members of the LDS church for visitation to my residence.

My formal resignation from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints as of May 31, 2011 is declared on my first letter . I would like to again state the action items expected, as written in my original letter:
  • I am no longer a member, and therefore request that my name be permanently and completely removed from the membership rolls of the church.
  • I want absolutely no contact from the church with the exception of a single mailed letter of confirmation to let me know that I am no longer listed on the rolls of the church membership.
As it has been over 30 days since my original letter was received, I expect this matter to be handled immediately and with full confidentiality.
 
Oh, it wasn’t my work, it was my home. Which is weirder.

I got on Google and found the email addresses of both the Bishop and the Stake President listed on the letter from the corporate offices. At least I’m assuming it’s them, as there were not a lot of people with identical names and bachelor’s degrees from BYU. Also, apparently the bishop and stake president are both lawyers in the area - good to know the LDS church is still rewarding the wealthy and high in status with prominent positions in the church. Also, yay for dorky Mormon names! It makes it much easier to find people via Google.

I sent an email to Greg Dodge and my building manager, with a CC to these men’s email addresses. This is what was said:
You’d think that lawyers would know better than to do the exact opposite of what you specifically requested in your notarized and very carefully-written legaleze letter of resignation to them… 🤷 It’s like they’re just asking for a law-suit which would quickly earn you a sizeable settlement from them.
 
I had a message on my phone last night at 6:38p. It was the bishop from my local ward who needed to talk to me to “facilitate the process” of the name removal. “No pressure”, he just has to “explain some things to me.” Oh, and here’s the creepy part - the caller ID showed the call was made from the concierge desk in my building. It made me think of that old horror movie - “The call is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!!”

Ugh.

It’s been over 30 days, I’ve been running to the mailbox every day, or at least asking my husband when I get home from work, waiting for that letter. And now I have to talk to someone?!

:banghead:
Let me first say, welcome home!! I see that we did the same research because our letters are very similar. I also included in my letter that I did not want to be contacted by anyone in the church except a letter stating my resignation was granted. Once I sent my letter, the only correspondence I received was a letter stating that the request had been granted, it did however take several months. There should be no reason for the Bishop or anyone from their church to be contacting you, except to maybe try and presude you. One thing that I added to my letter was the following:

“I will consider any unnecessary delay to be a violation of my rights of free association and freedom of religion as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.”

I would follow up with another certified letter if you have not received anything in a month or so, or if the Bishop contacts you again, I would include something similar to what I mentioned above, maybe adding that any additional contact may be considered an attempt tp persude. If you are interested in reading my letter let me know. Good Luck and God Bless!
 
Let me first say, welcome home!! I see that we did the same research because our letters are very similar. I also included in my letter that I did not want to be contacted by anyone in the church except a letter stating my resignation was granted. Once I sent my letter, the only correspondence I received was a letter stating that the request had been granted, it did however take several months. There should be no reason for the Bishop or anyone from their church to be contacting you, except to maybe try and presude you. One thing that I added to my letter was the following:

“I will consider any unnecessary delay to be a violation of my rights of free association and freedom of religion as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.”

I would follow up with another certified letter if you have not received anything in a month or so, or if the Bishop contacts you again, I would include something similar to what I mentioned above, maybe adding that any additional contact may be considered an attempt tp persude. If you are interested in reading my letter let me know. Good Luck and God Bless!
And yet another ex-Mormon Catholic! Welcome home yourself! And doesn’t the eucharist blow the socks off of the bread and water at the Mormon sacrament meetings?

I’m kind of hoping that me hunting down their email addresses and copying them will sufficiently wig them out enough to just do what I asked in the first place.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top