"September Dawn" film is gonna cause Mormons problems

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I may be in the minority, but I get not pleasure in seeing anyone bashed by Hollywood. I’m not saying this movie does that. It may not. But I have learned not to trust anything out of Hollywood for accuracy or opinion. Most of their stuff has a purpose and that purpose is contrary to all people of faith.

They are kind of like the Yankees. I root for whoever plays them.

BTW - The Mountain Meadows incident is a serious black-eye to the Mormon Church, but no more than the theocracy that is the state of Utah. That’s what I ame waiting to see changed. We can not even have a nativity in small town city hall, but they have a State Park dedicated to Brigham Young in Salt Lake City.
 
If the movie is done from the viewpoint that it was 'a few renegade mormons or ‘actually’ :rolleyes: indians, it will not be worth seeing because it will not be anything but an lds wash job.
 
If the movie is done from the viewpoint that it was 'a few renegade mormons or ‘actually’ :rolleyes: indians, it will not be worth seeing because it will not be anything but an lds wash job.
That would be like making a crusades movie with all the crusaders as saints that never harmed anyone on their way to Jerusalem.
 
At the veeeeery bottom of the Wikipedia site, it describes the movie as a love story set in the context of the massacre. So I’m thinking that’s enough to make we wonder how much is real and how much is fiction, and how much importance they place on the context of this love story.

Things that make ya go hmmmmm… :rolleyes:

~Liza
 
I may be in the minority, but I get not pleasure in seeing anyone bashed by Hollywood. I’m not saying this movie does that. It may not. But I have learned not to trust anything out of Hollywood for accuracy or opinion. Most of their stuff has a purpose and that purpose is contrary to all people of faith.

They are kind of like the Yankees. I root for whoever plays them.

BTW - The Mountain Meadows incident is a serious black-eye to the Mormon Church, but no more than the theocracy that is the state of Utah. That’s what I ame waiting to see changed. We can not even have a nativity in small town city hall, but they have a State Park dedicated to Brigham Young in Salt Lake City.
I totally agree. Our media and Hollywood in general just love to bash anything of religion (especially one that has any belief in Our Lord). I choose not to watch these types of movies for all Hollywood is trying to do is cast doubt in the believers mind.
 
I may be in the minority, but I get not pleasure in seeing anyone bashed by Hollywood. I’m not saying this movie does that. It may not. But I have learned not to trust anything out of Hollywood for accuracy or opinion. Most of their stuff has a purpose and that purpose is contrary to all people of faith.

They are kind of like the Yankees. I root for whoever plays them.

BTW - The Mountain Meadows incident is a serious black-eye to the Mormon Church, but no more than the theocracy that is the state of Utah. That’s what I ame waiting to see changed. We can not even have a nativity in small town city hall, but they have a State Park dedicated to Brigham Young in Salt Lake City.
It seems strange, but sometimes Hollywood fights for faith, specifically the Catholic Faith(which I find interesting)… Case in point “The Exorcism of Emily Rose”(A brilliant, Brilliant film about the much misunderstood sacrament), “The Nativity Story”, the animated classic “The Prince of Egypt”(An idea of Steven Spielberg, who wanted Dream work’s first blockbuster to be an animated remake of Demille’s “Ten Commandments”) and the countless other pro-Catholic and Christian films out there including the straight to video “Joseph: King of Dreams” a nice animated prequel to “Prince of Egypt”. Heck I’d even include that Arnie action flick which tried to capatalise on the usual end of the millennium “end of the world” chaos…

The interest in investing in faith films seems to have risen slowly in the 1990s, until “Prince” came out, then slowly other films came too. It wasn’t a “film movement” however until “Passion” pulled $300 million and opened the flood gates.

I think “The Passion” has finally made some Christian and specifically Catholic filmmakers realize Hollywood will support them if they speak up. Hollywood has once again opened the doors to faith, and they have all arrived like it’s the 1950s all over again.

Jon Voight seems to have taken up an interest in exploring faith roles, He played Noah in a 2004 tele-flick and stepped into the role of Pope JP2 last year. I don’t think he picked this role because it was “unfaithful”, thats very doubtful to me because Voight is a “cradle Catholic” who lost the faith in Hollywood and has slowly appeared to have found it again. More like he choose to make a film which expressed concern over the Mormon faith specifically rather than in faith in general. After all a practicing believing Catholic filmmaker made the pentecostal criticizing documentary “Jesus Camp”, if a Secular filmmaker had of made it, they would have been labled “Anti-faith” too.

Yes Hollywood has a strong anti-christian/faith thing too, but there is a strong pro-christian/faith movement which has altered that perspective yet again. And Mr Voight is right there standing along side it and starring in it’s films.

This film is a critical analysis of Mormonism’s founding fathers, not “an anti-faith film”.

That said the 9/11 thing was more than a bit tacky and tasteless marketing.
 
Yeah saw the Jesus Camp movie, kinds scarry actually. And there was an exchange by that creepy Ted Haggard with the filmakers about what religion they where the guy said catholics and Haggard said he loved catholics and goes to catholic church when he is out of the country. And that the catholic church cheats because it has its serives all planned out and been doing the same thing for a thousand years, guess he never heard of Vatican 2. Weird exchange and weird banter about Catholcism.
Felt sorry for the kids I felt the parents wanted the best for their kids but the fat lady running the camp was the wrong person to send your kids too it was like she was running and evangelical Madrassa.
 
Heck I’d even include that Arnie action flick which tried to capatalise on the usual end of the millennium “end of the world” chaos…
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FYI - That movie was rated as morally offensive on the USCCB’s movie review site, just in case anyone thought they should see it.

I know there have been a few exceptions, but they do stand out because they are exceptional. More than just a Christian vs. non-Christian issue, they have lost the moral compass of the American people. Every poll that I have read shows that film makers, writiers and actors are less morally attuned than America.

I appreciate those that stand against the tide. I have noticed John Voight in particular and would see this movie for him alone, if it weren’t for all the gushy, yucky romance stuff. Oh, and the slaughter at the end. I do not ever watch children being killed.
 
FYI - That movie was rated as morally offensive on the USCCB’s movie review site, just in case anyone thought they should see it.

I know there have been a few exceptions, but they do stand out because they are exceptional. More than just a Christian vs. non-Christian issue, they have lost the moral compass of the American people. Every poll that I have read shows that film makers, writiers and actors are less morally attuned than America.

I appreciate those that stand against the tide. I have noticed John Voight in particular and would see this movie for him alone, if it weren’t for all the gushy, yucky romance stuff. Oh, and the slaughter at the end. I do not ever watch children being killed.
Morally offensive yes I agree, but not “Anti-faith”… that was quite funny seeing Arnie bend down in front of an altar with a crucifix and chuck his Uzi away for once saying “I Believe!!”…
hehehe!

Anyway Hollywood has produced some great Christian and quite often Catholic films. “The Exorcism of Emily Rose” really stands out to me as one of the best Courtroom drama films in years, a great film about “Faith VS Science” where for once “faith” wins out, at least the personal faith of both the deceased, the parents and the Priest.

I seriously think if someone is studying the Catholic belief in Exorcism and the Apologetics one needs to know about that sacrament it makes great film supplementary study material(As opposed to “The Exorcist” which is fantastical too much) to the very real case of exorcism it discusses, and it’s a terrifying Horror film at the same time.
 
At the veeeeery bottom of the Wikipedia site, it describes the movie as a love story set in the context of the massacre. So I’m thinking that’s enough to make we wonder how much is real and how much is fiction, and how much importance they place on the context of this love story.

Things that make ya go hmmmmm… :rolleyes:

~Liza
Liza, this is very real, we lost two from our family in the massacre. It may be a love story , but the fact remains that a lot of innocent people lost their lives, all because of greed. It is a shame that it is associated with any religion. The Mormon faith may take a hit because of this, but it has been covered up for too long. We would just like to know the truth… whatever it may be.
 
Has anyone heard how the Mormon leaders are reacting to this film now that it is finally out?🤷
 
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