Servant of God?

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Though there may be some who would think this might be better placed other then philosophy, but what is understood by the many of what a Servant of God is and does?

What is a Servant of God? Or maybe it would be better said; what exactly does a Servant of God do?
 
bogeydogg said:
Your quote sums it up nicely.

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Bogeydogg

thanks for the reply

Point well taken…

But what is a servant of God, does he have divine right and or divine authority? (so to speak) Or is the servant of God proved and approved by the divine right and authority? And exactly how does that work?
 
John7 said:
A servant of God is a person who follows the will of God and does the will of God.

servant and master:

God is the master
Christians are the servants
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John7

thanks for the reply

And what would that be in the scheme of things? Anyone can say what they believe is the will of God. How is it executed, fulfilled? Anybody can associate themselves to the Christian community. But does that qualify them as servants of God?
 
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John7

thanks for the reply

And what would that be in the scheme of things? Anyone can say what they believe is the will of God. How is it executed, fulfilled? Anybody can associate themselves to the Christian community. But does that qualify them as servants of God?
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I to get irritated by statements pretending to be answers.😉

The act of reality is ultimately at its root an act of giving - sharing. Ultimate reality has shared its reality with other beings. Thus perfect eternal Existence is ultimately an act of perfect love. To act in conformity to God, is to Love perfectly: and to love perfectly is to live forever in God. Your mission is simply to live forever in love. To live forever in love is to participate in actions that fulfil the image of God - human life. Are you ready to take on that mission:)?

Does that make sense to you? I don’t think that I could say it any more clearer than that.
 
Wikipedia has an article on this. It means different things to different people. I am most familiar with the use in the Catholic Church where it is the first step toward canonization as a saint.

Servant of God – Venerable – Blessed – Saint
 
MindOverMatter2 said:
I to get irritated by statements pretending to be answers.😉

The act of reality is ultimately at its root an act of giving - sharing. Ultimate reality has shared its reality with other beings. Thus perfect eternal Existence is ultimately an act of perfect love. To act in conformity to God, is to Love perfectly: and to love perfectly is to live forever in God. Your mission is simply to live forever in love. To live forever in love is to participate in actions that fulfil the image of God - human life. Are you ready to take on that mission:)?

Does that make sense to you? I don’t think that I could say it any more clearer than that.
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MindOverMatter2
Thanks for the reply

Looks like you might have been spending some time on some philosophy websites.

Does the servant of God rely on the fulfillment of the Promise given. Or does he fall in love with his idea of God. Hence the requirement of, “ in Jesus’ Name” is the clear fulfillment of the Promise. For if there be no fulfillment, then how can one be a servant thereof?

Does one seek leadership by expressing the knowledge of their idea of God? Or does one point to the fulfillment of God’s Will for mankind in Christ Jesus? In the serving of God.
 
Joe_Kelley said:
Wikipedia has an article on this. It means different things to different people. I am most familiar with the use in the Catholic Church where it is the first step toward canonization as a saint.

Servant of God – Venerable – Blessed – Saint
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Joe Kelley

thanks for the reply

Yes there are many views and beliefs, if you will, on the subject of what a true servant of God is.

But I refer you to the prophet Isaiah on the subject of the potters wheel and the former there of, the Lord, but what is being formed is vessels for his service, to be filled with what He values. Then there is the miracle when the woman had no resource, that was valued, to pay the debit and the prophet told her to gather vessels and use the vessel with oil, now blessed to fill them with. Consider the vessel is filled then poured out not unto the ground as referred to when Samuel was coming into the evident service of God, but into the other vessels. Note that the vessel yet poured out is refilled by God, seemingly never empty. I believe this the key to a clearer understanding of what Lord intends a servant of God to be. Even in the vessels filled with water now filled with wine. Baptism in water, now baptism in Spirit.
 
DPMartin said:
MindOverMatter2
Thanks for the reply

Looks like you might have been spending some time on some philosophy websites.

Does the servant of God rely on the fulfillment of the Promise given.
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No the servant of God relies on the grace of God to obey the commands to love God and neighbor.
Or does he fall in love with his idea of God.
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No, he falls in love with God, the real deal not just the idea.
Hence the requirement of, “ in Jesus’ Name” is the clear fulfillment of the Promise. For if there be no fulfillment, then how can one be a servant thereof?

Does one seek leadership by expressing the knowledge of their idea of God?
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No, one prepares to accept leadership by being in right relationship with God and neighbor. Knowledge in and of itself is not necessary.
Or does one point to the fulfillment of God’s Will for mankind in Christ Jesus? In the serving of God.
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davidv said:
No the servant of God relies on the grace of God to obey the commands to love God and neighbor.
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David
thanks for the reply

Why does that exclude, the servant of God relying on the fulfillment of the Promise given?
 
DPMartin said:
David
thanks for the reply

Why does that exclude, the servant of God relying on the fulfillment of the Promise given?
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For one I’m not sure what you mean by “fulfillment of the Promise given”, and secondly any other reliance is a distant second.
 
davidv said:
For one I’m not sure what you mean by “fulfillment of the Promise given”, and secondly any other reliance is a distant second.
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David
thanks for the reply

What Pleases the Lord God? That He sees that it is good? Doesn’t the Father look to the fulfillment of His Word, through His Son? Isn’t Jesus the One in whom the Father is well pleased?

We are the created for what purpose? How could it be anything but, the fulfillment of His Word? Wasn’t Abraham a servant of God? Who pleased God in his reliance in the fulfillment of God’s Word? He loved and respected, and as God said fear the Lord more then his love for his son Isaac. He trusted in the fulfillment of the Promise, God’s Word, which proved him a lover of the Almighty. For God Loves the Fulfillment of His Word.

Many say that to love God is the Way, though that is true, but do they use this to define and justify that which they love is God like, thinking others would see them as God like. Do they love to be perceived as God like, and to be known by the world around them as God like?

If you where to be standing before the Lord, in His court would He know who you are and call you by name? Or would you have to explain who you are? Consider, the Almighty already knows who Abraham is, and Abraham would be welcome in the Presence of God without question.
 
DPMartin said:
David
thanks for the reply

What Pleases the Lord God? That He sees that it is good? Doesn’t the Father look to the fulfillment of His Word, through His Son? Isn’t Jesus the One in whom the Father is well pleased?

We are the created for what purpose? How could it be anything but, the fulfillment of His Word? Wasn’t Abraham a servant of God? Who pleased God in his reliance in the fulfillment of God’s Word? He loved and respected, and as God said fear the Lord more then his love for his son Isaac. He trusted in the fulfillment of the Promise, God’s Word, which proved him a lover of the Almighty. For God Loves the Fulfillment of His Word.

Many say that to love God is the Way, though that is true, but do they use this to define and justify that which they love is God like, thinking others would see them as God like. Do they love to be perceived as God like, and to be known by the world around them as God like?

If you where to be standing before the Lord, in His court would He know who you are and call you by name? Or would you have to explain who you are? Consider, the Almighty already knows who Abraham is, and Abraham would be welcome in the Presence of God without question.
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It is still not clear to me what you mean by the phrases “fulfillment of the Promise” and “Fulfillment of His Word”. Can you clarify what you mean?

God is pleased by His Son as recorded at His baptism in the Jordan and at His Tranfiguration. He is also pleased by other things. E.g.,
Sir 35:3 To keep from wickedness is pleasing to the Lord,
Col 1:10 to lead a life worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God.
Heb 13:16 Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God.
Ps 69:30-31 I will praise the name of God with a song; I will magnify him with thanksgiving. This will please the LORD more than an ox or a bull with horns and hoofs.
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I cannot speak to the rest of the post until we resolve my confusion in your use of terms.
 
davidv said:
It is still not clear to me what you mean by the phrases “fulfillment of the Promise” and “Fulfillment of His Word”. Can you clarify what you mean?

God is pleased by His Son as recorded at His baptism in the Jordan and at His Tranfiguration. He is also pleased by other things. E.g.,
I cannot speak to the rest of the post until we resolve my confusion in your use of terms.
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David

thanks for the reply

I apologize if you don’t understand, it just might be how I am trying to say it. But truly I don’t understand, why it is you don’t understand.

Who fulfilled the promise to Abraham that all the nations and tribes would be blessed through Abraham’s seed? God, or Abraham? Can’t you see, that God gave His Word to Abraham, and God fulfilled His Word to Abraham? Didn’t Jesus come into the world, to the Jews first, as a Jew, of the seed of Abraham?

Who fulfilled God’s Word, to His Satisfaction that He saw that it was Good, when He said Let there be Light?
 
DPMartin said:
David

thanks for the reply

I apologize if you don’t understand, it just might be how I am trying to say it. But truly I don’t understand, why it is you don’t understand.

Who fulfilled the promise to Abraham that all the nations and tribes would be blessed through Abraham’s seed? God, or Abraham? Can’t you see, that God gave His Word to Abraham, and God fulfilled His Word to Abraham? Didn’t Jesus come into the world, to the Jews first, as a Jew, of the seed of Abraham?

Who fulfilled God’s Word, to His Satisfaction that He saw that it was Good, when He said Let there be Light?
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Asking me questions does not explain what you mean. The capitalization of the phases indicates to me that there some specific meaning of which I am not familiar.

Re: Abraham. Besides world wide blessing, Abraham was also promised Land and to be a Great Nation. Neither these, nor the world wide blessing, were fulfilled in his life time. The promise of land was fulfilled when the Israelites entered Caanan after wandering in the desert for 40 years. The great nation promise was fulfilled with the Davidic kingdom. So, how did Abraham receive the Word of God if he didn’t witness any of these fulfillments? By the way, to me “Word of God” means Jesus (see John 1:1).
 
Greetings, I’m having a little trouble following where your discussion is going but I seem to remember someone asking the question about why we are here…

We were created to be with God for all eternity; that’s why he gave us life in the first place. He loves us and wants to share his love, his life and eternity with us. God is good! Actually, he is goodness itself.

Then there were questions about authority and being a servant of God?..

Someone answered that to do God’s will is being a servant of God. That is exactly what each of us is called to do.

How do we know what that calling is? Discernment, prayer to the Holy Spirit to reveal the Father’s will for each of us and for each day for that matter. God’s calling for us can change. One day we may be called to help the elderly we meet on the street. The next day our child may become ill and we are called to be God’s loving hands in healing that child. One may be called for great lengths of time to do His bidding, i.e. person’s called to religious vocations. One may be called to teach… the callings are endless.

To serve God is to carry on the work that Jesus set before His disciples. To Love God and Your Neighbor.

How can your service manifest itself? Let me count the ways! As Mother Teresa put it, by doing small deeds with great love!

When we abide in Christ and Christ in us, we build up the body of Christ, the Church. We do the work of Christ, we become His hands and feet.

When we see Christ in each person we meet and treat them as Christ, we do the will of God. We serve God.

Maybe I’m missing your meaning about servant of God? Mary was the most perfect Servant of God. “Behold the handmaid of the Lord…” Each action of her life was in service to God, total service, the sort that you and I are not even capable of giving, we may pray and ask to serve to the best of our human limitations however… Mary is our model of perfect service.

Also remember, Jesus came to serve… not to rule but to serve… He served the Father’s will unto death.

Pardon me if I’m not on the right drift of the question… doing my best.

Thank you for considering my response. May you be abundantly blessed and serve Our Lord in all things.

Mary Teresa, OSSM
 
The fruit of Faith is Love and the Fruit of Love is Service… Blessed Teresa of Calcutta

One needen’t be a Saint to be a Servant of God. Each of us is called into His Service.

Everyone is worthy to serve Him! We are all sinners, yet we are called to do His Holy Will.
 
davidv said:
Asking me questions does not explain what you mean. The capitalization of the phases indicates to me that there some specific meaning of which I am not familiar.

Re: Abraham. Besides world wide blessing, Abraham was also promised Land and to be a Great Nation. Neither these, nor the world wide blessing, were fulfilled in his life time. The promise of land was fulfilled when the Israelites entered Caanan after wandering in the desert for 40 years. The great nation promise was fulfilled with the Davidic kingdom. So, how did Abraham receive the Word of God if he didn’t witness any of these fulfillments? By the way, to me “Word of God” means Jesus (see John 1:1).
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David

thanks for the reply

Mark 12:
26: And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
27: He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
Mt:19:29: And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

Mt:25:34: Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
What would make you think that Abraham is not to experience the fulfillment of God’s Word to him?

Mt:8:11: And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
Of a truth, we can not of our own will, go where God is, but God of His Will can go where we are, that we might be with Him. No one nor nothing can defeat God, not His Word, not His Presence, even in man. Hence the Word of God in the Presence of God given, in the Son of Man. Our Lord Jesus Christ.
 
MaryTeresa2 said:
Greetings, I’m having a little trouble following where your discussion is going but I seem to remember someone asking the question about why we are here…

We were created to be with God for all eternity; that’s why he gave us life in the first place. He loves us and wants to share his love, his life and eternity with us. God is good! Actually, he is goodness itself.

Then there were questions about authority and being a servant of God?..

Someone answered that to do God’s will is being a servant of God. That is exactly what each of us is called to do.

How do we know what that calling is? Discernment, prayer to the Holy Spirit to reveal the Father’s will for each of us and for each day for that matter. God’s calling for us can change. One day we may be called to help the elderly we meet on the street. The next day our child may become ill and we are called to be God’s loving hands in healing that child. One may be called for great lengths of time to do His bidding, i.e. person’s called to religious vocations. One may be called to teach… the callings are endless.

To serve God is to carry on the work that Jesus set before His disciples. To Love God and Your Neighbor.

How can your service manifest itself? Let me count the ways! As Mother Teresa put it, by doing small deeds with great love!

When we abide in Christ and Christ in us, we build up the body of Christ, the Church. We do the work of Christ, we become His hands and feet.

When we see Christ in each person we meet and treat them as Christ, we do the will of God. We serve God.

Maybe I’m missing your meaning about servant of God? Mary was the most perfect Servant of God. “Behold the handmaid of the Lord…” Each action of her life was in service to God, total service, the sort that you and I are not even capable of giving, we may pray and ask to serve to the best of our human limitations however… Mary is our model of perfect service.

Also remember, Jesus came to serve… not to rule but to serve… He served the Father’s will unto death.

Pardon me if I’m not on the right drift of the question… doing my best.

Thank you for considering my response. May you be abundantly blessed and serve Our Lord in all things.

Mary Teresa, OSSM
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MaryTeresa2
Thanks for the reply

One question though. Does the Presence of God make the servant of God?
 
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