Seton Hall University OK's "Brokeback Mountain" showing

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**On Monday, Nov. 20, Hollywood movie “Brokeback Mountain” is scheduled to stage at Seton Hall University, a Catholic institution ** founded in 1865. The film is currently listed on the university’s web site under “Multicultural Program Film & Lecture Series.” TFP Student Action is calling for a peaceful protest because the film:

Approves same-sex relations, adultery, nudity, profanity and drug use. It is a blow to Catholic education, America’s Christian roots, the institution of the family and very foundations of morality and society.

“Brokeback Mountain” is the antithesis of authentic Catholic education. It scrambles human emotions and encourages students to tolerate sin. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops classified this pro-homosexual film as “morally offensive” – the lowest possible rating.

Protest now. Your signature will make an impact. GO TO: tfp.org/student_action/activities/protests/seton_hall_brokeback_mountain.htm

Every movie is produced with a message and objective. It seems that the objective of “Brokeback Mountain” is to mock manhood and promote unnatural vice. Newsweek stated the movie “has the potential to change the national conversation and to challenge people’s ideas about the value and validity of same-sex relationships.”

Join the protest

Please sign your instant e-protest to the president of Seton Hall University, Msgr. Robert Sheeran. Urge him to cancel the film. TFP Student Action is alerting its affiliate members on 716 college campuses to join the campaign. If you would ask your friends too, the impact of this effort will be much greater. Defend moral values in Catholic education!

Make a polite phone call. After you sign your respectful e-protest, give Msgr. Sheeran’s office a call. Be polite and firm. Ask him to have the movie cancelled.

Call today: (973) 761-9691

Monsignor Robert Sheeran, S.T.D.
President, Seton Hall University
E-mail: president@shu.edu
 
John_R said:
**On Monday, Nov. 20, Hollywood movie “Brokeback Mountain” is scheduled to stage at Seton Hall University, a Catholic institution ** founded in 1865. The film is currently listed on the university’s web site under “Multicultural Program Film & Lecture Series.” TFP Student Action is calling for a peaceful protest because the film:

Approves same-sex relations, adultery, nudity, profanity and drug use. It is a blow to Catholic education, America’s Christian roots, the institution of the family and very foundations of morality and society.

“Brokeback Mountain” is the antithesis of authentic Catholic education. It scrambles human emotions and encourages students to tolerate sin. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops classified this pro-homosexual film as “morally offensive” – the lowest possible rating.

Protest now. Your signature will make an impact. GO TO: tfp.org/student_action/activities/protests/seton_hall_brokeback_mountain.htm

Every movie is produced with a message and objective. It seems that the objective of “Brokeback Mountain” is to mock manhood and promote unnatural vice. Newsweek stated the movie “has the potential to change the national conversation and to challenge people’s ideas about the value and validity of same-sex relationships.”

Join the protest

Please sign your instant e-protest to the president of Seton Hall University, Msgr. Robert Sheeran. Urge him to cancel the film. TFP Student Action is alerting its affiliate members on 716 college campuses to join the campaign. If you would ask your friends too, the impact of this effort will be much greater. Defend moral values in Catholic education!

Make a polite phone call. After you sign your respectful e-protest, give Msgr. Sheeran’s office a call. Be polite and firm. Ask him to have the movie cancelled.

Call today: (973) 761-9691

Monsignor Robert Sheeran, S.T.D.
President, Seton Hall University
E-mail: president@shu.edu
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Good for Seton Hall. Their students will have an opportunity to judge for themselves what many others want to judge for them.
 
HoppityRedux said:
Good for Seton Hall. Their students will have an opportunity to judge for themselves what many others want to judge for them.
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Um, was there anything stopping the students for doing that on their own, with their own money, in a privately owned theater?

Why is it good for Seton Hall to thumb their nose at the USCCB’s rating of “morally offensive”?
 
StephanieC said:
Um, was there anything stopping the students for doing that on their own, with their own money, in a privately owned theater?

Why is it good for Seton Hall to thumb their nose at the USCCB’s rating of “morally offensive”?
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Nothing at all stops them from going to another theater. The university just made it easier. There are lots of things available both on and off campus.

It’s good to judge for yourself. If they see the movie is morally offensive, it will heighten the standing of the USCCB.

I wonder about the university library. I suspect they have lots of volumes considered morally offensive. Are Catholic university suudents unable to handle it? I think they can.
 
HoppityRedux said:
Nothing at all stops them from going to another theater. The university just made it easier. There are lots of things available both on and off campus.

It’s good to judge for yourself. If they see the movie is morally offensive, it will heighten the standing of the USCCB.

I wonder about the university library. I suspect they have lots of volumes considered morally offensive. Are Catholic university suudents unable to handle it? I think they can.
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But didn’t each student have the opportunity to judge for themselves when it came out in theaters?
I guess my point is that it is rather non-in loco parentis for Seton Hall to put their name behind something that our bishops have already labeled as c**p.
I suppose it also just comes down to respecting authority.
 
StephanieC said:
But didn’t each student have the opportunity to judge for themselves when it came out in theaters?
I guess my point is that it is rather non-in loco parentis for Seton Hall to put their name behind something that our bishops have already labeled as c**p.
I suppose it also just comes down to respecting authority.
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Yes, they did have the opportunity to judge the movie when it came out. Now the have another opportunity, and this one may occasion discussion and reflection in a university atmosphere where the issues can be examined.

I suspect Seton also has Mein Kampf in it’s library. Does that mean they put their name behind Mein Kampf? The Church has condemned Nazi ideas. Is Seton disrespecting authority by having that book in its library?
 
Is this just one of many movies in a series that is happenning to be offerred? Or is it being shown/promoted more specifically to suit some agenda? If it’s the latter, I can understand the hubub. But if it’s the former, then perhaps they are bringing more attention to the matter than it is worth.
 
Gay activists have been on a campaign since the film was made to place it in libraries across the nation. 4,000 public libraries is the goal.

My question to Catholics is why there is not a drive I can detect, at least in my state, to place Catholic material in public libraries? To find Chesterton, I have to buy the book or get an interlibrary loan. Wanted “Architects of the Culture of Death” by Ignatius Press and under half a dozen libraries in the state of Connecticut had it. I look at “Newest Arrivals” and rarely is there any book there from anything but a heretical position. Be four or five on how Christians are going to create a theocracy in America but
Without Roots: The West, Relativism, Christianity, Islam by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger and Marcello Pera is nowhere to be found (a great book btw).

I can take out all the PBS Joseph Campbell/Bill Moyers type videos I want. But nothing by those who hold true to the faith.

I’m not in the sticks either. My library is ranked 7th in the country for a town our size. We spend a lot on our library. We were an New England Congregationalist/Federalist town but now the Catholic church has the largest attendence and Catholics make up over a third of the population.

Catholics pay taxes. They support libraries. Why aren’t the books they read and the videos they want to watch represented?
 
David_Paul said:
Gay activists have been on a campaign since the film was made to place it in libraries across the nation. 4,000 public libraries is the goal.

My question to Catholics is why there is not a drive I can detect, at least in my state, to place Catholic material in public libraries? To find Chesterton, I have to buy the book or get an interlibrary loan. Wanted “Architects of the Culture of Death” by Ignatius Press and under half a dozen libraries in the state of Connecticut had it. I look at “Newest Arrivals” and rarely is there any book there from anything but a heretical position. Be four or five on how Christians are going to create a theocracy in America but
Without Roots: The West, Relativism, Christianity, Islam by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger and Marcello Pera is nowhere to be found (a great book btw).

I can take out all the PBS Joseph Campbell/Bill Moyers type videos I want. But nothing by those who hold true to the faith.

I’m not in the sticks either. My library is ranked 7th in the country for a town our size. We spend a lot on our library. We were an New England Congregationalist/Federalist town but now the Catholic church has the largest attendence and Catholics make up over a third of the population.

Catholics pay taxes. They support libraries. Why aren’t the books they read and the videos they want to watch represented?
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Ask your local library board. It’s a local question.
 
Here’s the Seton Hall Multicultural Film & Lecture Series site.

I guess I’m little less grumpy about it than when I originally thought it would be just a “hey kids, bring your date to the movies!” kind of showing.

Having said that, why do I still doubt that the lecture will do anything to help instruct SH’s students on the moral truths & lies that can be conveyed through film?

Shoot, if Seton Hall tuition-paying parents can’t bring themselves to speak up & squelch this, why do I feel I must? :o
 
David_Paul said:
Gay activists have been on a campaign since the film was made to place it in libraries across the nation. 4,000 public libraries is the goal.

My question to Catholics is why there is not a drive I can detect, at least in my state, to place Catholic material in public libraries? To find Chesterton, I have to buy the book or get an interlibrary loan. Wanted “Architects of the Culture of Death” by Ignatius Press and under half a dozen libraries in the state of Connecticut had it. I look at “Newest Arrivals” and rarely is there any book there from anything but a heretical position. Be four or five on how Christians are going to create a theocracy in America but
Without Roots: The West, Relativism, Christianity, Islam by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger and Marcello Pera is nowhere to be found (a great book btw).

I can take out all the PBS Joseph Campbell/Bill Moyers type videos I want. But nothing by those who hold true to the faith.

I’m not in the sticks either. My library is ranked 7th in the country for a town our size. We spend a lot on our library. We were an New England Congregationalist/Federalist town but now the Catholic church has the largest attendence and Catholics make up over a third of the population.

Catholics pay taxes. They support libraries. Why aren’t the books they read and the videos they want to watch represented?
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David, have you read this article in This Rock called Evangelizing your Public Library?

Here’s another cool webpage I found with more ideas on how to do this.

I’m a public library user, and I thank you for reminding me to get busy and actually take the steps to evangelize my own!
 
StephanieC said:
Here’s the Seton Hall Multicultural Film & Lecture Series site.

I guess I’m little less grumpy about it than when I originally thought it would be just a “hey kids, bring your date to the movies!” kind of showing.

Having said that, why do I still doubt that the lecture will do anything to help instruct SH’s students on the moral truths & lies that can be conveyed through film?

Shoot, if Seton Hall tuition-paying parents can’t bring themselves to speak up & squelch this, why do I feel I must? :o
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It appears Seton Hall has a fine list of movies on their schedule.

Did anyone notice the Pawnbroker on that list? It received a “condemned” rating from the old Catholic Legion of Decency. Is that strike two for Seton Hall? Should the Pawnbroker be pulled from the schedule because the bishops condemned it?
 
StephanieC said:
David, have you read this article in This Rock called Evangelizing your Public Library?

Here’s another cool webpage I found with more ideas on how to do this.

I’m a public library user, and I thank you for reminding me to get busy and actually take the steps to evangelize my own!
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Thank you! Great links. This has been bothering me for months and I appreciate the help. Apparently a small group with a very narrow ideology is in charge of ordering at our library. Been gone for ten years and the selection of new books is dramatically different. Shouldn’t be difficult to reverse the situation.
 
David_Paul said:
Thank you! Great links. This has been bothering me for months and I appreciate the help. Apparently a small group with a very narrow ideology is in charge of ordering at our library. Been gone for ten years and the selection of new books is dramatically different. Shouldn’t be difficult to reverse the situation.
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Most libraries have an acquisition committee that determines new additions as a function of their budget. One of the tools they will use is the computer records that show how often various books have been checked out. If Stephen King leads the list, it’s likely his next offering will trump a commentary on Aquinas. Daniel Steel trumps Shelby Steele. If Fulton Sheen has only been gathering dust, it’s unlikely the library would add another.

A very effective technique is to have the books you want acquired by a private group, then donated in kind to the library. However, this approach demands a balanced donation of books. If all the books are orthodox Catholic or hard left in nature the library will balk at turning over its shelves to a single interest religious group.
 
HoppityRedux said:
Most libraries have an acquisition committee that determines new additions as a function of their budget. One of the tools they will use is the computer records that show how often various books have been checked out . . .
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Mine is obviously driven by a hard left ideology. That is the “tool” used in my town.
 
They’ve either lost their minds, or not seen the film. If Brokeback Mountain is pro-homosexuality, then Almost Famous is pro-stoner.
 
David_Paul said:
Catholics pay taxes. They support libraries. Why aren’t the books they read and the videos they want to watch represented?
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Are you serious? 95% of the time, you go to your library and ask to order something Catholic related and if they can afford it they will order it. It’s a lot easier for gay and lesbian materials requests to get “lost in the shuffle”.
 
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