Seven Sacraments would be in any World if it Fell and Received Incarnate One

[spauline]

Seven Sacraments would be in any World if it Fell and Received Incarnate One

I need Baptism as the basis of Salvation, to care what to believe (faith) and turn from wickedness and toward righteousness (repentance). That is, to know, love and serve God in this life.

We need marriage in general in humanity as a sign of the ultimate marriage to God, that we will be happy with Him forever in the next world.

These are the two principles of all goodness.
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It makes sense, therefore, that all persons of good will should have at least these sacraments, whether explicitly or implicitly. This IS the case with Protestants.

As for other things, there is heaven and hell. There is mercy and justice. In regards to these, there is also God’s foreknowledge.

Then, there is also the issue, how do I know what to believe? How can I be sure that I have correct doctrine, or that the man that shepherds me has authority and knowledge to do so. How can I be sure that I belong to the true society of Incarnate One?

For these residual graces, only the Incarnate One’s true society can relieve them.

I need confession and the annointing in the evening of life to know that there is always mercy for falling from grace, even at the end of life.

I need confirmation to be given special help to persevere in love of God, to know that God desires no one to perish, that all come to salvation. That is, God has desired that I be ELECT and not reprobate. He does not predestine anyone to hell, but only foresees it and allows it, but does everything He can in giving grace to help the creature avoid this fate. That is, God offers all help that I be CONFIRMED in holiness in a special way.

And I need Holy Orders to know that my spiritual father is legitimate, that he preaches the truth, and is not a robber who climbs the fence.

And I need the Holy Communiion to know that my society IS the true society of Incarnate One.

See then, how any world that would receive God as Incarnate would have all seven sacraments?

 

[Alexander_Roman]

There were, at certain times in the Church’s history, up to 12 sacraments, including monastic tonsure and the anointing of an emperor/king . . .

Alex

 

[spauline]

There were, at certain times in the Church’s history, up to 12 sacraments, including monastic tonsure and the anointing of an emperor/king . . .

Alex

from what i understand, there can never be more or less sacraments than there ever were. Those things you mention must not have been dogma.

 

[Aelred_Minor]

The thing is, the word “sacrament” once had a broader meaning than just the seven big ones through which we receive sanctifying grace.

In fact, even today we sometimes use the word “sacrament” to refer to something other than one of the seven sacraments. We may say the Church is a sacrament for example, or speak of circumcision as an Old Testament sacrament.

 

[spauline]

The thing is, the word “sacrament” once had a broader meaning than just the seven big ones through which we receive sanctifying grace.

In fact, even today we sometimes use the word “sacrament” to refer to something other than one of the seven sacraments. We may say the Church is a sacrament for example, or speak of circumcision as an Old Testament sacrament.

look, you are missing the point, like a nerd who dwells on technicalities. Don’t try to put words in my mouth.

I mean that in any fallen material world that receives incarnate one, the above rituals with sanctifying grace attached would always be instituted by God for appropriateness and necessity. that other lesser rituals may exist is not the point. I am talking about what would be MINIMALLY necessary for God’s will for redemption to give the fullness of sign to heal scrupulosity.