Seventh Day Adventist question

[Arglaze]

2. Most Catholics don’t know, but the Sunday was to be kept just like the Jewish Sabbath was by orders of the Pope and Emperor Constantine (not gonna go too much into the history).

Question: Which pope? Please be specific.

I trust we’re all here to learn and allow God to lead us into more truth, and I by no means want to add people to my church denomination, but I do want to gain members for heaven.

My apologies for not being specific, sometimes I don’t carry documents with me. Hmm, as a critical Bible student I owe someone an apology and I’d like to say it here so everyone can see that I stand corrected on saying that the Pope changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday, it was a Catholic Ruler and Emperor named Constantine. I read the document wrongly, and I’m not ashamed of admiting that I was wrong and thank you for giving me a chance to look at the document again.
But here I lay the information for you to decide whether is God given or men given. And I’d like to say that any day is good to do something good for someone, but only 1 day God gives a command to keep. But here it goes, Sunday is men command, not God given:

“On 7 March 321, Constantine I decreed that Sunday (dies Solis) will be observed as the Roman day of rest [CJ3.12.2]:
‘On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for grain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost.’
Though some Christians use the decree in support of the move of the Sabbath day to Sunday, in fact the decree was in support of the worship of the Sun-God (see Sol Invictus).”
Find it also on Encyclopedia Britannica under definition of ‘Sunday’

The Latin original is in the Codes Justiniani, lib. 3, title 12, lex. 3.

Some early Christians use to use Sunday as a day to meet and do activities including pray, and study of the scriptures, but that didn’t mean they changed it because Jesus rose on the First day, in fact, there’s no scripture proof that shows they didn’t keep the God given Sabbath.

As a Roman Law, many Christians that grew up under it, saw Sunday as a convenience to worship God, which isn’t a bad thing, but they neglected the Sabbath as Saturday because of this man given mandate. Roman Catholic priests have no problem saying to any members that this is a fact. The changing of the 10 commandment Law in the Catechism was also done to suit laws of men.

And if Christians don’t have a problem with allowing the Laws of men shape how the church ought to believe in God, then I have no problems with that either, but don’t say that Jesus, Peter, Paul or any of the apostles would agree with the changing of this. And say that changing the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday was done because Jesus resurrected on Sunday, even Catholic priests know that was fabricated after the fact the change was done in honor of the Venerable day of the sun.
Finally The Sabbath honors God as our Creator because in 6 days he made the world and rested the 7th day. Sunday does not in practical terms serve this purpose. Sunday just becomes a day of worship if kept just like any other day we can worship God, but it does not become the day in which God rested from Creation, and blessed which is the original purpose of the Sabbath, and stands as a memorial of Christ’s power, who created the world, and shows his creative ability to save humanity.

<< Ariel >>

 

[CHRISTINE77]

I trust we’re all here to learn and allow God to lead us into more truth, and I by no means want to add people to my church denomination, but I do want to gain members for heaven.

My apologies for not being specific, sometimes I don’t carry documents with me. Hmm, as a critical Bible student I owe someone an apology and I’d like to say it here so everyone can see that I stand corrected on saying that the Pope changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday, it was a Catholic Ruler and Emperor named Constantine. I read the document wrongly, and I’m not ashamed of admiting that I was wrong and thank you for giving me a chance to look at the document again.
But here I lay the information for you to decide whether is God given or men given. And I’d like to say that any day is good to do something good for someone, but only 1 day God gives a command to keep. But here it goes, Sunday is men command, not God given:

“On 7 March 321, Constantine I decreed that Sunday (dies Solis) will be observed as the Roman day of rest [CJ3.12.2]:
‘On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for grain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost.’
Though some Christians use the decree in support of the move of the Sabbath day to Sunday, in fact the decree was in support of the worship of the Sun-God (see Sol Invictus).”
Find it also on Encyclopedia Britannica under definition of ‘Sunday’

The Latin original is in the Codes Justiniani, lib. 3, title 12, lex. 3.

Some early Christians use to use Sunday as a day to meet and do activities including pray, and study of the scriptures, but that didn’t mean they changed it because Jesus rose on the First day, in fact, there’s no scripture proof that shows they didn’t keep the God given Sabbath.

As a Roman Law, many Christians that grew up under it, saw Sunday as a convenience to worship God, which isn’t a bad thing, but they neglected the Sabbath as Saturday because of this man given mandate. Roman Catholic priests have no problem saying to any members that this is a fact. The changing of the 10 commandment Law in the Catechism was also done to suit laws of men.

And if Christians don’t have a problem with allowing the Laws of men shape how the church ought to believe in God, then I have no problems with that either, but don’t say that Jesus, Peter, Paul or any of the apostles would agree with the changing of this. And say that changing the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday was done because Jesus resurrected on Sunday, even Catholic priests know that was fabricated after the fact the change was done in honor of the Venerable day of the sun.
Finally The Sabbath honors God as our Creator because in 6 days he made the world and rested the 7th day. Sunday does not in practical terms serve this purpose. Sunday just becomes a day of worship if kept just like any other day we can worship God, but it does not become the day in which God rested from Creation, and blessed which is the original purpose of the Sabbath, and stands as a memorial of Christ’s power, who created the world, and shows his creative ability to save humanity.

<< Ariel >>

I wonder if all this Saturday/Sunday religious day argument is the reason we have weekends?

 

[bpbasilphx]

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Originally Posted by bpbasilphx View Post
2. Most Catholics don’t know, but the Sunday was to be kept just like the Jewish Sabbath was by orders of the Pope and Emperor Constantine (not gonna go too much into the history).

Question: Which pope? Please be specific.
I trust we’re all here to learn and allow God to lead us into more truth, and I by no means want to add people to my church denomination, but I do want to gain members for heaven.

My apologies for not being specific, sometimes I don’t carry documents with me. Hmm, as a critical Bible student I owe someone an apology and I’d like to say it here so everyone can see that I stand corrected on saying that the Pope changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday, it was a Catholic Ruler and Emperor named Constantine. I read the document wrongly, and I’m not ashamed of admiting that I was wrong and thank you for giving me a chance to look at the document again.
But here I lay the information for you to decide whether is God given or men given. And I’d like to say that any day is good to do something good for someone, but only 1 day God gives a command to keep. But here it goes, Sunday is men command, not God given:**

**Et reliqua.

Your long posting did not answer my original question.

But you do admit that, contrary to your original assertion, the Pope had nothing to do with it.**

 

[bpbasilphx]

** Originally Posted by Arglaze View Post

1. That may be how you feel, however the church that changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday is the Catholic church, and thats a historical fact. …**

**Et reliqua.

What would you say if there were an ancient Jewish Christian community that had never had anything to do with any pope at at time in its history?

What would you say about their practices? You certainly couldn’t blame them on that nasty ole pope feller.

Well, there is JUST such an ancient Jewish Christian church located in India.

They came to India in the second century–nearly two centuries before Constantine.

They have a three-fold hierarchy of bishops, presbyters, and deacons, as well as minor ministers.

They have a fully developed liturgy and sacraments.

They believe that the bread and wine of the Eucharist become the Body and Blood of Christ.

They have been separated by hundreds of years and hundreds of miles from the Roman Empire and never had anything to do with the Roman Pontiff.

And guess what their main day of worship is?

Hint–it’s not Saturday.

Would you like to try again?**

 

[bpbasilphx]

I stand corrected on saying that the Pope changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday, it was a Catholic Ruler and Emperor named Constantine.

Since at the time, Constantine had not been baptized, he could not be considered a Catholic at all.

 

[Arglaze]

i’m sorry, correct me if I’m wrong with the Scripture. But the commandment says, “Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy”. Which means the Sabbath does not belong to the Jews, but to all the sons and daughters of Adam. The Sabbath was not instituted at Mount Sinai, it was a reminder of something God gave humanity before sin was introduced, and after everything God created, including that Sabbath, He said “it was very good”.
therefore the meaning of the Sabbath extends beyond the simple lighting of fire, and that is a technicality that only the spirit of pharisees would bring up. There is no end to the list of things anyone could interpret as work, and as a SDA I refuse to complicate the Faith of Jesus.

If Jesus gave the sabbath in Eden, its not a burden, its just a command designed for our own good. And I repeat its not a shadow of the rest which is in Jesus, the system of sacrifices & ceremonies came after the fall, not in Eden, like the Sabbath.

If anyone wants to grab the Torah and you look at it carefully, you’ll notice that its our schoolmaster to Jesus. It gives many details as to how to please God because God was establishing a new movement from people that practiced paganism heavily, so all those details were given so we wouldn’t loose sight of God.
please tell me what SDA or Jew has accused anyone of breaking the Sabbath for turning on a car on Sabbath.

I doubt there is, but some people, specially were I come from, like to make jokes bout SDAs and their Laws and legalism. Judge us for what we teach, not by what 1 person does.

Ariel

 

[Arglaze]

p.s. If the Sabbath were not good or unimportant or a shadow. Why would God create it before the Fall? Or why would the prophet Isaiah say that in the New Heavens and New Earth we will keep the Sabbath?

 

[Arglaze]

the Jews choose saturday as the day of Sabbath,so i guess because Jews are humans also some one who whorships on saturday is also following a day choosen by man…we don’t see it written God started forming our world on sunday or any particular day of the week for all we know He might have started on wednesday

the Jews did not select the 7th day as their Sabbath. God gave it to Adam and Eve before the fall, and reminded Israel to keep it.

And If you believe in the Scriptures, then you wouldn’t have a problem believing that the 7th day of the week is in fact the original Sabbath. Even a catholic priest will confirm that for you. And no the weekly cycle hasn’t been lost overtime, the Bible itself is proof of that. But if you don’t believe in the accuracy of it, then in vain I try to explain it.

 

[mercygate]

the Jews choose saturday as the day of Sabbath,so i guess because Jews are humans also some one who whorships on saturday is also following a day choosen by man…we don’t see it written God started forming our world on sunday or any particular day of the week for all we know He might have started on wednesday

The claim that Sunday worship is man-made because it began with the early Christians and was later formally confirmed by the Church depends on an understanding of the Church as a man-made “institution.” But the Church is *not *man-made. She is the Bride and Body of Our Lord, born from His side at Calvary, entrusted with honoring and glorfying Him and bringing all souls to Him until He comes again.

 

[Patrick_Murebil]

the Jews did not select the 7th day as their Sabbath. God gave it to Adam and Eve before the fall, and reminded Israel to keep it.

And If you believe in the Scriptures, then you wouldn’t have a problem believing that the 7th day of the week is in fact the original Sabbath. Even a catholic priest will confirm that for you. And no the weekly cycle hasn’t been lost overtime, the Bible itself is proof of that. But if you don’t believe in the accuracy of it, then in vain I try to explain it.

Hello Arglaze,

Before I post my “official” reply here, I just want to let you know that I appreciate your thoughts and our private dialog in our emails! I read your latest one this morning, and would love to go into deeper discussion with you about the points raised, if you would like to do that. I just wanted to let you know here that if you do not hear from me this weekend regarding your last email, it does not mean that I no longer want to talk with you, because I really do!!! And btw, I was not offended by anything you said, and completely understand where you are coming from!!

Now, for the sabbath. This was the issue that I had the greatest struggle resolving in my conversion to Catholicsim from Adventism. The Eucharist was the easiest once I received accurate information about it. Early on, when I would preach, I chose to adopt Paul’s statement that “I preach Christ, and Him crucified”, because I read a comment by Ellen White that the study of the cross is our life’s study. And as I studied the cross and what that event meant for us, I was led to study the Eucharist, which is the study not only of the crucifixion, the Lamb of God Jesus, His resurrection, and His work in Heaven for us…it is the reality of those events. Understanding that alone was the answer to all of my life’s longings, yearnings, and desires, because it completed and fulfilled my study of the cross. Not that my study is now ended, because it is only beginning…but now I know Jesus more intimately than at any other time in my journey with Him.

But I came to that conclusion before I resolved the sabbath issue, and I was in a mental “push and pull” match that you cannot imagine…well maybe you can So now I would like to pick up with you, a discussion I have been trying to have with other SDAs on this thread for a while which has not gone far at all (and I hope you are ok and just busy Friedrich, and that nothing bad has happened to you or any of your loved ones. You and yours are in my prayers and I hope we are in yours). I wanted to discuss the first two chapters of Genesis…the Creation stroy…which would have eventually reached the 7th day.

Your stated above:
2. You are correct in saying that Christ himself is the rest, that is the direct application of what the Sabbath stands for. But as a commandment, it was not given to the Jews only, but to Adam and Eve, which means its an eternal commandment, just like Love is. Bible implies that in heaven you will keep the weekly sabbaths, Isaiah 66:23.

Please tell me, from the scripture in the creation story, how you arrive at the 7th day of creation being Saturday? What was instituted on the 7th day of creation? Who was commanded to obey what on the 7th day of creation?

Here is the scripture regarding the 7th day of creation. It is from the New International Version. Please feel free to reference any other version, or versions, of the Bible in answering these questions.

Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. 2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

Thank you advance for taking the time to answer these questions!

God bless all!!!

 

[Patrick_Murebil]

So now I would like to pick up with you, a discussion I have been trying to have with other SDAs on this thread for a while which has not gone far at all

Senior moment…forgive me…it wasn’t this thread. It was "Why is sunday instead of saturday the sabboth?"

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=247591

Now I’m going to go and try to walk a straight line and name the presidents…

God bless all!!!

 

[Patrick_Murebil]

The claim that Sunday worship is man-made because it began with the early Christians and was later formally confirmed by the Church depends on an understanding of the Church as a man-made “institution.” But the Church is *not *man-made. She is the Bride and Body of Our Lord, born from His side at Calvary, entrusted with honoring and glorfying Him and bringing all souls to Him until He comes again.

Amen!

 

[bpbasilphx]

But the Sabbath focus is not the abstention from work,

Yes, it is. That’s what the commandment actually says.

 

[DianJo]

I have no problem at all with agreeing that the Sabbath is the holy day to be observed by the Jewsih people. Howerver, WE ARE NOT JEWISH, WE ARE CHRISTIAN. Which means we follow Christ. I know that Christ was a good Jew but, he came to fulfill the jewish law.

According to the OLD Covenant, God rested from His creation on the last day of the week, BUT, according to the NEW covenant, established by Jesus whom we follow, He rose on the first day of the week. So, I wouldn’t say that Sunday worship was established by “man-made tradition.” On the contrary, it was establish by Jesus Himself when He rose on Sunday morning.

It was the Apostles that “changed” the worship of the Sabbath. They actually began to worship Jesus in the synagogues on Sunday after keeping the Sabbath on Saturday. They kept both days holy until the Jews expelled them from their synagogues, then the followers of Jesus worshipped on Sunday because He rose on Sunday and established the New covenant on that day.

In my opinion, you can’t worship Jesus and keep Jewish Law - that’s the whole point of the book of Romans. Jesus came to establish the New Covenant, if you are Christian then you follow the New Covenant. Other wise, you miss the whole point of His life, death and resurrection.

Constantine may have made an official “edict” about the day of worship but it was nothing new. Christians had been worshipping on Sundays for 300 years already. He just made it official. Sunday is the memorial of His resurrection and the establishment of the New Covenant.

 

[bpbasilphx]

In my opinion, you can’t worship Jesus and keep Jewish Law - that’s the whole point of the book of Romans.

That’s also the whole point of Galatians. In fact, Paul warns them that if they accept Jewish practices, Christ will do them no good.

 

[DianJo]

In my opinion, you can’t worship Jesus and keep Jewish Law - that’s the whole point of the book of Romans.

That’s also the whole point of Galatians. In fact, Paul warns them that if they accept Jewish practices, Christ will do them no good.

Thanks for adding to that!

 

[Mailman]

Couple of points on this, and I’m glad someone brought it up:

1. I’m an SDA. It is a dangerous trap to get too particular as to the rituals, forms and traditions of the Sabbath. That was the problem that the Jews in Jesus’ days had and we need not become too concern with those technicalities. There’s just about every excuse to say why something should or shouldn’t be done on the Sabbath and I see SDAs falling into that trap constantly. And they miss the Bigger Picture of what the Sabbath is.
2. Most Catholics don’t know, but the Sunday was to be kept just like the Jewish Sabbath was by orders of the Pope and Emperor Constantine (not gonna go too much into the history). But up till recently Catholics have slacked on what the proper observance of the Sunday was, which was just as rigorous as Sabbath keeping, abstaining from secularities, etc. In my country which is a Catholic country, up to 2 generations ago that i can see, Catholics kept the Sunday the same way the rigorous Sabbath was kept. Because of all this forms the real purpose behind the Saturday Sabbath was lost.
3. Trying to keep it as simple as I can. God gave us the Sabbath as a day of rest and refreshing and as a memorial of the 7 day creation week. He made the world in 6 days and rested the 7th day. The Sabbath was not meant to go into a whole bunch of technicalities as to what shouldn’t be done on the Sabbath, thats falling into men’s game of “I am holier than thou”. Which I’m the first one to admit, SDAs including myself at one time, do more than anyone.
4. The Sabbath is a memorial of God’s creative power, and it demands, in that day, that we commune with and consider Him as our Maker and acknowledge his creative power to save humanity, which is the same power that framed all the worlds into existence. The power to create out of a sinful miserable creature like me, a righteous being that will through eternity be to His praise and glory.
   Therefore, being that the purpose of the Sabbath, anything that takes our eyes of from God in that particular day, causes us to sin against him. And yes, including myself, we all get easily distracted with many things that takes our eyes away from God and therefore we break His Sabbath (school, work, even camping done the wrong way, hiking, etc.) For the most part, people don’t need to be told what takes their eyes of from Jesus in the Sabbath, people already know when they are doing something that is secular in nature. You could even be in church and be distracted with people talking about a bunch of stuff that doesn’t bring you closer to God. So worshiping God on the Sabbath and learning of Him in Nature or the Bible to further our knowledge of His Love and salvation is the real purpose of the Sabbath.
5. In that light then, I am not surprised that people leave churches when they are forced to follow so many man made rules (the technicalities). I by no means excuse anyone who knowingly breaks the Sabbath, in light of what I said previously, and what the Sabbath really stands for. But I will refrain from condemning anyone since that’s not my job, the Bible already does that work.
6. I’m not attacking anyone in a personal level, but the Sunday worship unlike the Sabbath was appointed by tradition, and any priest that’s studied catholic history will tell you that, I know because in my country I was forced to study catholicism in school. That Makes the keeping of the ‘Sunday’ a man made institution. However, if keeping the Sunday is your conviction, then keep it the way it should be kept. Doing good to others and keeping your eyes on God and studying the Scriptures, not in secular activities. And I repeat, no one needs to be told what is secular activities, most people that have a sense of religion already know.

By the way, I have scripture texts for every point presented here, I just didn’t want to crowd this with a bunch of them.

May God bless you and the Spirit of Christ be with you always

<< Ariel >>

Hi! I’m not SDA but I agree with what you said here. Sunday is a man-made institution and the Catholic Church acknowledges that. It remains for us to chose whom we obey - God, or man’s tradition.

 

[mercygate]

Hi! I’m not SDA but I agree with what you said here. Sunday is a man-made institution and the Catholic Church acknowledges that. It remains for us to chose whom we obey - God, or man’s tradition.

So you’re a Christian who does not believe in observing the Lord’s Day in any way because you think it “man’s tradition”?

Or your a Christian who believes in observing the Lord’s day on Sunday because the Lord chose that day to rise from the dead and to inspire the Church at Pentecost?

 

[Arglaze]

Hello Arglaze,

Please tell me, from the scripture in the creation story, how you arrive at the 7th day of creation being Saturday? What was instituted on the 7th day of creation? Who was commanded to obey what on the 7th day of creation?

Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. 2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

Before I explain this, you would agree with me that many doctrines in ancient times were passed verbally from parents to children until the arrival of Moses, who God commanded to put it in writing.
Example of that would be God instituting the sacrifice of lambs right after the fall of Adam and Eve (symbolic of Jesus). Abel and Cain practiced it, but there’s no record of God saying specifically “Adam go sacrifice a lamb” it was just understood in the context of the story.

1. When it comes to the Sabbath, the Record says that God rested, blessed and made the Sabbath Holy. The Bible doesn’t focus on the keeping of the Sabbath, because it was already understood and assumed that It ought to be kept. Genesis’ focus is on the fall, and how God took action to save His children.
2. I’m sure you will agree that after the fall, men became more corrupt and few practiced the worship of the true God by the time Noah built the Arc, then the flood, then the Tower of Babel,etc.
3. By now, paganism was regular, but God chose Abraham to restore the Truth about God. Not that other people didn’t know about Him.
   Psalm 105:9,10 "Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac; And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant.
4. Once God has his people ready, the only commandment out of the 10 that says the word “Remember” is the 4th, and Jesus wrote it on the table and explains to Moses what it means, and how Jesus wanted it to be kept:

Exodus 20:8-11
“Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.”

Key words in the text:

• “Remember”, which means, what God’s about to explain is not a new thing, but from old, something they forgot.
• Work avoidance, (I’m summarizing briefly), from Jesus’ explanation, the problem is not working, the problem is loosing sight of the creator, and he says don’t work, so u don’t get distracted and you don’t distract others from Me. Like I said, you can be in church and still break the sabbath.
• “For (which means, do all of the above ‘because’) in 6 days… and hallowed it” its a reference to Him as the God of Heaven and Creator of this world. I don’t think God speaks in empty compliments to himself, if he mentions creation, is because it matters.

Generally speaking, people don’t have a problem with the Sabbath as God would like it to be kept, but Jews, Adventists, etc. have made it so much of a burden with a list of rules that even trying to keep it becomes works of the flesh rather than righteousness of God and we loose sight of the Creator. We become more religious than God Himself, legalism, etc.
Not an attack against Jews, Adventists, etc. I’m speaking against the concept that to keep the Sabbath you have to methodically avoid doing a set of things and put so many rules to keep yourself from breaking it. The Sabbath’s not about not working. Working is just a symptom of the real problem, so God says, eliminate the symptom.

How I reach to the conclusion that Saturday is the 7th day, aside from the fact that the Catholic Church acknowledges it?
Its simple, the Bible says the 7th day is the Sabbath. Proof of that would be the Hebrew nation, which I believe is more than 2,500 years old and has kept accurate record of history, including the week cycle. The Bible is also proof, and I have no reason to doubt the Biblical record.

But I’ll push it a step further, and may God forgive me if I say something I shouldn’t.
Lets say that somewhere along the line we lost that cycle, and lets say that the real Sabbath fell on what is actually Sunday. But the man says, keep the Monday just because.
What would people follow? the keeping of the Sabbath out of love and faith in the Biblical record?
Or, keeping the Monday, out of love and tradition, and because Jesus rose on Monday and men says so?
Who would God accept as worship in his true day? (not who God loves, He loves everyone, but who’s obeying to the best of their knowledge what he commands?)

May God Bless you all and help us all increase in his knowledge

<< Ariel >>

P.S. I’ll include an article on that later

 

[Arglaze]

It was getting a little long but here’s the article on how Saturday is the 7th day and I’m taking it from another SDA document, but it secular information gathered from other sources:

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"It takes the earth exactly 365 day, 5 hours, 48 minutes, 47.8 seconds to go around the sun.
But there’s no way to put that into any calendar so our calendar in constantly being updated. That’s why we have a “leap year.” In 1582 they discovered that the year was a little longer than 365 days, and the astronomers added 10 days to bring: the month up to date, but the weekly cycle was not altered. Thursday the 4th was followed by Friday the 15th. The calendar was updated without altering the weekly cycle in any way…

The first modern calendar as we have today was put into use in 45 B.C. by Julius Caesar. The names of the days as we have them now were also used then…
The Teutons substituted a few of their own gods instead of planets for the names of days…
The name of the Teutonic gods were:
Sun - Sunday, Moon - Monday, Tiu - Tuesday, Woden - Wednesday, Thor - Thursday, Frigg - Friday, Seturn - Saturday

Time can be traced to the very second by the positions of the stars! The Pentagon in Washington D.C., the Department of Astronomy informed that from the positions of the stars every moment of time has been kept track of since before 500 B.C.

Dr. J.B. Dimbleby, premier chronologist to the British Chronological and Astronomical Association, after years of careful calculations asserts: “If men refused to observe weeks, and the line of time was forgotten the day of the week could be recovered by observing when the transits of the planets, or eclipses of the Sun and Moon, occurred. These great sentinels of the sky keep seven days with scientific accuracy, thundering out the seven days inscribed on the inspired page.” - All Past Time, p. 10.

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So we can see, that even those who don’t believe in God understand the weekly cycle, its a universal thing, not just restricted to Christians.

God Bless you,

Ariel